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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Frankencar vs. Injen

Alright plain and simple guys whats gonna be better for me performance wise, a franken car hybrid I believe is what theyre calling it or and Injen CAI?.. I was listening to some sound files which seem to point to the Frankencar being much louder but nothing stating it gives any more horsepower.

alos as a side note I've heard that since the Injen is placed behind the radiator its not truly sucking in cool air all the time. seems true but I leave that to you guys.
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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get ready for a beating....

I went from a hacked airbox with K&N panel filter to a true CAI sucking air from the fenderwell. I noticed a difference in responsiveness under 3000 rpm, where the throttle seemed more responsive with the true CAI.

I know I didn't answer your question, but I'm just telling you my experience. I would guess that any system sucking in hot engine bay air is going to perform like my hacked air box...which wasn't very good.
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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i dunno my injen style works great i havent felt any power loss at all.....however shes never been on a dyno
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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thanks but need more info a little more precise if possible.
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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Okay, intakes do not give much power, you also lose some low end power with A/F intakes. The stock intake is the best, I suggest you stick with it. The Frankencar intake and Injen intake both suck in hot air.
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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alright thats what I keep telling myself but I want the roar and that stock intake is ugly as hell.

so heres my revised question. im def. gonna go with an aftermarket intake but should I go with frankencar or injen.


http://www.frankencar.com
http://www.injen.com
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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Neither, get it from ebay.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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i have a real injen cold air intake, which i love the sound of it, i had a bomz short ram intake before. anyways get the injen intake ull love the sound of it and power too!!
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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yea okay ive decided at this point its either a true prcai which I cant even find. Or and injen and then i dont have to worry about wet conditions, because let me tell ya theres so much rain. Oh and one more thing for us floridians you might think im a bit crazy but hurricane wind is actually generally cold believe it or not even though they're hot air machines so I can be racing around in 40 to 60 mph gusts of wind and that hot engine bay air wont be there for long mwahaha. itll own. thanks for all the replies fellas.
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Despite what every says or speculates on, I love my Injen intake. With dyno results + my own personally testing, I can safely say that I get much mid-range power, which is what I was aiming for. I only feel a very slight low end power loss, which to me is negligible. Plus, the sound is killer.
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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awesome man yea I was planning on the injen anyways cause of all the rain I'd be so screwed with a true prcai.
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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i think for performance wise ur better off staying with ur stock intake. intakes dont give 4th gens much of a horsepower increase, but i got one just for the sound. i have a frankencar and love it. the injen is mad expensive and sits right next to ur engine. even the ones off ebay for like 50 bucks are prob just as good as all the ones that are 200 and up. just get what you like the best.
Old Feb 2, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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All intakes sit right next to the engine, but what I think you mean is the filter sits behind the radiator, and the shiney coating absorbs more heat than naught. I on the other hand, don't have a temperature problem. I took my heat shield off the roof of my hood and made some modifications to the piping, and I can rest my hand on the pipe after a few hours freeway driving and it will only be luke-warm. The temperature of the intake's air is usually around 15 degrees hotter than outside temperature when idling, but when I'm driving I reckon it's a lot lower, due to the tests I've seen on here on the forums when the shield has been removed... That's really the entire reason why I did it.

I do agree though, that most intakes are the same, but I don't agree that an "intake is an intake is an intake"--they all have their weakness' and strengths, and some have higher capacities than others, and all have different specifications. I wouldn't say "a car is a car is a car", or "a spark plug is a spark plug is a spark plug". Sure, they are of same principle, but the engineering and concept and manufacturing behind them all is entirely different (cept in some certain cases ). I wouldn't say "an engine is an engine is an engine" and throw a junked 250 crate on my Camaro. Hell no! I'm gonna throw a 800 honest horse, blown, supered 383 crate engine.

Buuut, I also do agree that you should get what -you- like, not what other people say you should get. Unfortunately, most people don't have the luxury of being able to afford and test tons of aftermarket parts just for the hell of it... Guess that's why there's the forums.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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Midpipe has no gain in performance. Injen is outrageously overpriced.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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is the padding on the hood for heat or sound deadening or both?
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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If you want an expose filter while looking at the engine bay, get Frankencar, if you want a longer chrome looking pipe go CAI.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tbergma1
is the padding on the hood for heat or sound deadening or both?


Both .
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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am I right in guessing that hotter air is gonna come from the Injen, or would it be the Frankencar.
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They both get hot air, but I say the Frankencar does, b/c there is no absolute source of cool air for it. The Injen might get some cool air but not much.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
They both get hot air, but I say the Frankencar does, b/c there is no absolute source of cool air for it. The Injen might get some cool air but not much.
alright thats all I needed to know thanks for that.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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i got my used injen intake from ebay for 20 bucks, all i needed was the air filter, which i had b/c i had a bomz short ram. just look around you might be able to find one cheap.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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They both suck.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
Okay, intakes do not give much power, you also lose some low end power with A/F intakes. The stock intake is the best, I suggest you stick with it. The Frankencar intake and Injen intake both suck in hot air.
how's that the best... it changes from year to year too... like 96 midpipe on i30t is diff from 97, then there is 2k and 2k2 and 2k4 isn't it getting better or what
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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how's that the best... it changes from year to year too... like 96 midpipe on i30t is diff from 97, then there is 2k and 2k2 and 2k4 isn't it getting better or what
I was specifically talking about 4th Gen Maxima's intakes.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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but it still sucks so they changed it. the whole point is that it gets better every year but like you said the 4th gen intake is not the best. what about the people like me with a swap where the stupid box doent fit or people with vi where the box doesnt fit. you guys arent serious about performance because of all the performance people on this board including me, none of them are complaning about intakes. end of story. spend you money on real mods and make your maxima faster and then these threads about intakes wouldn never exist again.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Lol so true. What does the intake give you? 4-5 horse power? And I may be totally wrong, but when exhaust exits it creates the vacuum that draws air in. So if I am correct wouldn't it be more beneficial to do exhaust mods first? Exhaust exiting faster> more vacuum> more air being sucked in through whatever intake you have?
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Lol so true. What does the intake give you? 4-5 horse power? And I may be totally wrong, but when exhaust exits it creates the vacuum that draws air in. So if I am correct wouldn't it be more beneficial to do exhaust mods first? Exhaust exiting faster> more vacuum> more air being sucked in through whatever intake you have?
Use you same logic to assume that more airflow in = more force pushing exhaust out. Sounds kind of circular, doesn't it? More HP ALWAYS means more air/fuel in, more exhaust out.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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but nothing is "pushing" the air, unless you're boosted , the open air filter would just allow more air, so it could suck more in, but not make more go in. Makes sense to me anyway.
Old Feb 3, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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Intakes are a much disputed upgrade for our cars. Some say they do nothing with arguements of heat soak, especially after thouroughly examining our stock intake system, which is rather well designed except for the 2 resonators in the airflow pathway.

It seems to me that the safest (from hydrolock) and most powerful (+2HP) intake would probably be an Injen type CAI, with modification done to the undercarriage (venting). Its true that if you place it behind the radiator you catch warmer air, but at speed, with some aerodynamic ingenuity it could probably stay frosty.

Personally, my I30 is equipped with a JWT Popcharger style intake, a short ram design intake with a polished aluminum velocity stack that acts as the foundation for a uniquely designed gauze cone filter element. I employ a DIY fabricated ghetto ram air made out of laundry exhaust. Use your imagination.

Best intake: 00-01 VI
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