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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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I am having my car repainted in some spots. The fenders are being repainted, the front bumper, and there is some rust above the rear wheel well that I am having him fix. I have the boring azz pebble beige paint, and I was talking to the guy that is going to do the work and I mentioned that I would like to somehow spice it up a little without having the whole car repainted. He mentioned putting some pearl in the clearcoat and re-clearcoating it.

1st question-what do you guys think of that idea?

2nd question-I have a carbon fiber hood, should I have him spray that as well, or leave it alone?
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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1. You should just paint the whole car if your going to re-clearcoat the whole car with pearl.

2. If it's faded, why not.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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a real pearl coat isnt in the clear....its actually a sepate coat that goes between the base and clear...i am sure i can be done mixing it with clear but like
Kormax said....there is still alot of prep work u cant jsut spray clear on without any prep.....so in that case ur better off getting it painted...but them to do a color change is a whole new cat
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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A carbon fiber hood would look good with AE headlights and smoked bumperlights.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
a real pearl coat isnt in the clear....its actually a sepate coat that goes between the base and clear...i am sure i can be done mixing it with clear but like
Kormax said....there is still alot of prep work u cant jsut spray clear on without any prep.....so in that case ur better off getting it painted...but them to do a color change is a whole new cat

He is going to sand down the whole car before he sprays the pearl/clear. I don't want to change the color of the car. I don't want to spend the money on having him paint the door jambs, etc., etc.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 99grnmaxgxe
A carbon fiber hood would look good with AE headlights and smoked bumperlights.

Ok? Thanks for the bump.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by maxfanfromohio
He is going to sand down the whole car before he sprays the pearl/clear. I don't want to change the color of the car. I don't want to spend the money on having him paint the door jambs, etc., etc.
than maybe u should save until u can get teh door jambs done and get a color change if u dont like the color......but yea a carbon hood would break it up nice...or even a carbon lip kit or atleast black one
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
than maybe u should save until u can get teh door jambs done and get a color change if u dont like the color......but yea a carbon hood would break it up nice...or even a carbon lip kit or atleast black one

It's not a matter of not having the money, it's a matter of not wanting to spend the money. I just wanted to know what people thought of the idea, and whether or not I should have him paint the hood also.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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Putting pearl in the clear will just make it sparkel the color of the pearl! You want a "mid coat" a pearl in a clear binder, that will give it a nice affect. But a mid coat will change the color as weel. I painted a 240 last week,and he wanted it a flip flop orange so I painted it orange with a blue pearl mid coat, it looks orange. But in direct sun light it changes to blue or pink. My car is red but in the sun light the curves look white! Take a look at my car.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2075565
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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I would never paint sections, get the whole car painted now or wait until you can do the entire car. IMO it looks bad when you only paint sections, it is very noticeable and looks horrible. Don't change the color unless it is very slight change, to avoid extra work and cost.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dabodyman
Putting pearl in the clear will just make it sparkel the color of the pearl!
Is that ok? That's kinda what I wanted. I don't really want the color to flip flop, just change a little bit.


Originally Posted by dabodyman
You want a "mid coat" a pearl in a clear binder, that will give it a nice affect. But a mid coat will change the color as weel. I painted a 240 last week,and he wanted it a flip flop orange so I painted it orange with a blue pearl mid coat, it looks orange. But in direct sun light it changes to blue or pink. My car is red but in the sun light the curves look white! Take a look at my car.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2075565

Looks nice. So you are saying it can be done the way I am explaining it?
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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I say change the color. it will not look right if you only paint certain spots. do a white w/red or blue pearl. Or what i plan to do is have a black car w/ a blue pearl mixed up with some silver and blue flake. It will look bad a$$ (and yes will also cost out the a$$ but that is also a long way down the road after i do a engine rebuild) my 2cents

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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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yes, anything can be done if your painter knows what he our she is doing. What color do you want the car and what color "pearl or sparkel" do you want?
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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yeah just re-paint whole car if ur gonna go through all that any way.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dabodyman
yes, anything can be done if your painter knows what he our she is doing. What color do you want the car and what color "pearl or sparkel" do you want?

I don't doubt the painters ability or knowledge. The car would have a slight silver sparkel to it in the light. Again, just subtle nothing drastic.

I swear some of these people post, just to post and not add anything to the topic at hand.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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stock paint sucks. throw in some pearl in it. if oyu are going to just put a new coat of clear, the whole car will be sanded down till the clear becomes a little faded and then the painter throws a new coat on it. if you are goign to go that route, make sure there is enough clear so you can wet-sand the car and the buff it later.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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If I remember that's how my car got done. Mine is starfire blue but with the pearl I had added, in direct sunlight the car will look purple, dark blue, a lighter dark blue, and starfire. The only difference is that I don't think they mixed the pearl with the clear. They didn't remember if they had done it and couldn't tell me if anything would actually be different.

And then 2 months after it was painted someone hit it at the gym. Now I am painting it again but this time 97-99 front and Stillen kit.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Thank you vsamoylov and Zach, finally some information that I can use. That is exactly the info I was looking for.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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if you have any more questions feel free to ask. paint is another hobby of mine.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
if you have any more questions feel free to ask. paint is another hobby of mine.
So you think it would improve the look of the stock paint? It would be difficult for it to look worse.


Pearl/clear the carbon fiber hood, or leave it alone?

Thanks.
Old Feb 7, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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what about instead of pearl, putting like a metal or gold flake in the clear? would that work?
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by maxfanfromohio
So you think it would improve the look of the stock paint? It would be difficult for it to look worse.


Pearl/clear the carbon fiber hood, or leave it alone?

Thanks.
The pearl will definitly improve over stock. Some have the added pearl but it doesn't show as much because it is mostly the same color I think. But when you add a different shade it shows when under the sun or up close. I think it will look good with a carbon fiber hood. To me it is too much gold and with the black it will break it up.
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The pearl will look nice and the carbon hood will break up the color nicely. Throw some pearl on the hood, i think that would be a nice look. Also if you really wanted to make it pop try the flake like anj109 said. Talk to your local paint shop they can make samples of what everything would look like and most places charge a couple dollars if anything. Deffinitely post pics when everything is finished i am anxious to see what it looks like

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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IMHO pearl looks better then flakes.
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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I like a combination of both. Cause in the right light it looks awsome

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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I would say pearl over flakes. I like the look of pearl on some cars, I'm not sure how much you will notice with a beige car though. Post pics when you get it all painted!
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I will definately post before and after pics. I guess the only thing I was concerned about painting the carbon fiber hood is resale. I am not going to sell the hood for awhile, but if I do, it will kill it's resale value.
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I wouldn't touch the hood. I would leave it how it is. Unless you were gonna buy one of those pre dyed hoods like I think dirtysouthmax has.
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just throw another layer of clear on the hood
Old Feb 8, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
just throw another layer of clear on the hood

Got it. That's what I will have him do.
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so what pearl or flake are you gonna go with you think?
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if you cant make up your mind get a paint book of all the cars and look through the book for which color you like. pearl is another stage in the paint and if dont understand that it goes like this for pearl white
base which is white
second stage which is pearl
third stage which is the clear
so you can find a car that is white and has pearl in it and take the pearl out of it and spray it on your car
also if you want the best products go with ppg automotive paints and 3m for buffing. the 3m perfect 3 it system is the best.
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
if you cant make up your mind get a paint book of all the cars and look through the book for which color you like. pearl is another stage in the paint and if dont understand that it goes like this for pearl white
base which is white
second stage which is pearl
third stage which is the clear
so you can find a car that is white and has pearl in it and take the pearl out of it and spray it on your car
also if you want the best products go with ppg automotive paints and 3m for buffing. the 3m perfect 3 it system is the best.
I think that paint books are decieving. I looked at them for a week trying to pick which blue I wanted and gave up and went with Starfire because I had seen it and it looked good. But when I looked at books then had is sprayed out it just wasn't the same anymore.
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looking at the wrong paintbooks. the one by ppg have a sample of each color.
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by anj109
so what pearl or flake are you gonna go with you think?

Gold, or silver, or mixed. I haven't decided yet.
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