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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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Vq30det

Has anyone heard of this motor??

JDM NISSAN VQ30DET 3.0L DOHC TURBO out of a Gloria or Cedric.

Does it swap in with stand alone management??
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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Does it actually exist or are you just asking for curiosity?
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 07:40 AM
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It won't swap in. It is setup as RWD.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by scrhale
It won't swap in. It is setup as RWD.

with enough money anything is possible...but if u want a turbo jsut buy a turbo kit for yours
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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Ok random question....I know superchargers can be added into the auto's but can a turbo be added as well? Or do you have to have a manuel?
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 08:05 AM
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no they can be added....just a amtter of how long the tranny will last
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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Turbo+automatic=5spd swap in the future
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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or custom rear wheel drive maxima with 2 turbos...i will one day figure out how to do it. I have big dreams don't I???
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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or custom rear wheel drive maxima with 2 turbos...i will one day figure out how to do it. I have big dreams don't I???
Try it and let us know.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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How does the fact that its a rear drive make a difference?!?!?!
As long as the VQ tranny mounts, which it will cause its...a VQ...it will work fine. 3.5's drop in and they also work on 350Z's, which, you guessed it are rear drive.

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Does anyone know anything intelligent about this motor??
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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Actually, the RWD VQ35 will NOT fit without modification. You will at the very least need to replace the IM and probably the headers with ones from a FWD VQ35. Now if you replace the IM and headers of a VQ30DET with FWD counterparts, what do you get? A badly tuned VQ30DE.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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Its a matter of where the motor mounts are located on the block, for a rear wheel drive application the motor mounts are in a different place. Ever stop to think that maybe nissan makes different versions of the vq35, maybe one for fwd and one for rwd? Just a thought... shoot, that might even explain why some produce more power than others!
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
Actually, the RWD VQ35 will NOT fit without modification. You will at the very least need to replace the IM and probably the headers with ones from a FWD VQ35. Now if you replace the IM and headers of a VQ30DET with FWD counterparts, what do you get? A badly tuned VQ30DE.
That too.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
Actually, the RWD VQ35 will NOT fit without modification. You will at the very least need to replace the IM and probably the headers with ones from a FWD VQ35. Now if you replace the IM and headers of a VQ30DET with FWD counterparts, what do you get? A badly tuned VQ30DE.
The only thing diff between the two motors are that one is turbo and one is not . its true that one comes out of a RWD car but that dont make a diff they both got the same motor code. the bore is the same the stroke is the same the only thing diff is the compresion witch is 9 on the vq30det . you dont have to take of the IM or the EM . only thing u got to do is fab a pipe from the Em because it already comes with the turbo hooked up to it and it wont fit in the 4th gens engine bay thats about and a lil motor mount fab and your good the main thing would be your wireing thats the most .IM currently in the process of doing the swap my self im waiting on my ecu form a friend that is in japan on a back packing tour . u guys make thing seem bigger then they are alot of the stuff is just resurch it helps alot im not saying it was a easy job but it is doable . every thing from fuel to internals that u can use for the vq30de u can use for the vq30det its the same motor just turned around . with a diff IM thats all . its alot better then just slapping on a turdo kit this motor is turbo ready specs. 280on7psi . u do the math bigger turbo better fuel and u will hit that 400 and change with no problem. it took me awhile to figure all thid out but its hopefully going to me worh it sorry for all the miss spells writeing quick
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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The 3.0 L VQ30DET is a turbocharged version. It produces 270 and 280 (from 1997).

It is used in the following vehicles:

Nissan Gloria Y33,Y34
Nissan Cedric Y33,Y34
Nissan Leopard Y33



-'96 Nissan Cedric Gran Turismo Ultima
-VQ30DET (3L Quad Cam V6 single turbo)
-RWD



1996 Nissan Gloria Engine Shot


nissan cedric:
The Y33 was sold from late 1994 through 1998. The Y34 entered production in 1998 and lasted through 2004. Both Y33 and Y34 have VQ30DET options.

nissan leopard

-From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
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goodluck fitting that into a 4th gen
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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wow, thats a Nissan. never seen nor heard of it before. kinda looks like a bentley or some crazy expensive car.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Thats a suuuuuuuuper clean engine bay, good find ceasar.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bkmaxima
The only thing diff between the two motors are that one is turbo and one is not . its true that one comes out of a RWD car but that dont make a diff they both got the same motor code. the bore is the same the stroke is the same the only thing diff is the compresion witch is 9 on the vq30det . you dont have to take of the IM or the EM . only thing u got to do is fab a pipe from the Em because it already comes with the turbo hooked up to it and it wont fit in the 4th gens engine bay thats about and a lil motor mount fab and your good the main thing would be your wireing thats the most .IM currently in the process of doing the swap my self im waiting on my ecu form a friend that is in japan on a back packing tour . u guys make thing seem bigger then they are alot of the stuff is just resurch it helps alot im not saying it was a easy job but it is doable . every thing from fuel to internals that u can use for the vq30de u can use for the vq30det its the same motor just turned around . with a diff IM thats all . its alot better then just slapping on a turdo kit this motor is turbo ready specs. 280on7psi . u do the math bigger turbo better fuel and u will hit that 400 and change with no problem. it took me awhile to figure all thid out but its hopefully going to me worh it sorry for all the miss spells writeing quick
There might not be a place to put motor mounts for a FWD application. Also the IM is probably going to get in the way since its set up for a RWD car. Look at the IM for a 3.5 maxima and one for a 3.5 350z. There are huge differences.

You money would probably be better spent dropping a 3.5 in and turbo or S/C that.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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that car looks like it's the size of a Q45...for sure the 6 would fit if is
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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this is all good information.. and props on the pics you found caesar.. but to sum everything up.. "IF" everything that is stated is actually factual (the VQ30DET is the same motor as the VQ30DE - same bore,stroke,just diff compression ratio) then all you need to do to make your FWD 3 liter equivalent (somewhat) to the Turbo 3 Liter RWD is interchange parts, since the block,IM,EM, are the major holdbacks.. then take the crank and pistons from the RWD and put them in your FWD 3 liter..
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he only thing after that which might cause a problem is if the cylinder walls will hold up for the FWD block.. the stock RWD 3 liter block may have better (stronger) walls along with better cooling throughout the block to keep the motor cool (being FI).. This assumption i can not verify because i have never seen the RWD VQ30DET torn apart.. After that you will need to create a EM for the turbo setup, along with a charge pipe.. other factors that need to be considered are upgraded fuel pump and injectors, stand alone fuel management system, oil supply for the turbo (recommended doing dry sump), and better radiator.. main thing to remember in all this is "heat is your enemy, and lubrication is your friend."

I am not saying that doing this will give you an exact replica of the RWD VQ30DET motor (with exact numbers).. but it will be close if you get it tuned right.. maybe even more..
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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That Cedric up top is very nice, bottom one looks like a late 90s Q45 or I30 kind of , nice rides though.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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god dammit whenever I see nissans from strictly japan or other countries I get so pissed... FWD sucks so bad. man im sry but just go get a RWD car if you want that engine, I know its a **** thing to say but I just get mad that Nissan keeps all the best for home...
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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Why don't people put that beast in a 240SX ... screw SR20 ... VQ30DET must put out better numbers motor for motor.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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if you like that, research this...VQ30DETT.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by showoff
How does the fact that its a rear drive make a difference?!?!?!
As long as the VQ tranny mounts, which it will cause its...a VQ...it will work fine. 3.5's drop in and they also work on 350Z's, which, you guessed it are rear drive.

Again,

Does anyone know anything intelligent about this motor??
Well if you dont know simple engine configurations for fwd/rwd cars then you shouldnt really be trying to swap in a motor.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by showoff
How does the fact that its a rear drive make a difference?!?!?!
As long as the VQ tranny mounts, which it will cause its...a VQ...it will work fine. 3.5's drop in and they also work on 350Z's, which, you guessed it are rear drive.

Again,

Does anyone know anything intelligent about this motor??
You're making an a$$ out of yourself without even realizing it. People that are swapping in 3.5's are using motors that were used in FWD applications, i.e. maxima, altima, murano, quest. The 350Z 3.5 is setup for RWD and CANNOT be used in the 4th gen.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by showoff
How does the fact that its a rear drive make a difference?!?!?!
As long as the VQ tranny mounts, which it will cause its...a VQ...it will work fine. 3.5's drop in and they also work on 350Z's, which, you guessed it are rear drive.

Again,

Does anyone know anything intelligent about this motor??

You don't know what you're talking about. You cannot put a VQ35 from a RWD car (350Z, G35, etc) into a maxima with any semblance of ease. The VQ35s being used in maximas are coming from other maximas and from altimas, front wheel drive VQ35s.

You should probably get a clue as to what you are spouting off about before you go making posts like these "Does anyone know anything intelligent about this motor" etc, because you clearly don't know the simple differences between a motor designed for transverse mounting vs. one designed for longitudinal mounting.

Another idea for you is donate so you can search, since you obviously need to do some learning at this point. If you did search you would find that multiple people have already used VQ30DET parts in their maximas, but swapping the entire motor itself is so impractical as to be basically impossible. There are other differences between the motors as well, but you'll need to search to find them because I'm done spoon feeding you. Thanks for playing.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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who's down for the coversion

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissa...spagenameZWDVW
Old Mar 10, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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You made it worse by Posting that. Now he has a supplier to his madness.
Old Mar 10, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Supermax95
goodluck fitting that into a 4th gen
Its the same motor just take of that plastic cover and turn the motor around its the same thing. its not bigger at all it just looks that way because of the way it is sitting in the car thats all. if u look up the specs on the vq30det and the vq30de you will see that everything is the same but the compresion witch is 9 on the vq30det because its turbo thats all and of course the hp thats given .stop guessin and do the home work not an easy swap but it can and will be done .in fact i will not be the first there is a guy in the TX area that did it already. look it up .
Old Mar 10, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 97Maximus
this is all good information.. and props on the pics you found caesar.. but to sum everything up.. "IF" everything that is stated is actually factual (the VQ30DET is the same motor as the VQ30DE - same bore,stroke,just diff compression ratio) then all you need to do to make your FWD 3 liter equivalent (somewhat) to the Turbo 3 Liter RWD is interchange parts, since the block,IM,EM, are the major holdbacks.. then take the crank and pistons from the RWD and put them in your FWD 3 liter..
T
he only thing after that which might cause a problem is if the cylinder walls will hold up for the FWD block.. the stock RWD 3 liter block may have better (stronger) walls along with better cooling throughout the block to keep the motor cool (being FI).. This assumption i can not verify because i have never seen the RWD VQ30DET torn apart.. After that you will need to create a EM for the turbo setup, along with a charge pipe.. other factors that need to be considered are upgraded fuel pump and injectors, stand alone fuel management system, oil supply for the turbo (recommended doing dry sump), and better radiator.. main thing to remember in all this is "heat is your enemy, and lubrication is your friend."

I am not saying that doing this will give you an exact replica of the RWD VQ30DET motor (with exact numbers).. but it will be close if you get it tuned right.. maybe even more..
Thats a good idea thought about before but just desided to take the other way.
Old Mar 10, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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can we just lock up this thread, i mean this is not going to go no where. Even if we had a RWD nissan engine. It not going to fit or make it a better car by shoving and doing major modification to the whole chassi of the car. If I had the money to do that, I would rather go to japan and get an used Skyline GT-R R34 with Attesa-ETS system in it. Then ship it back to the states and drive it. Or even better live in japan and drive that around with other nissans.
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