Well tanako, from the sounds of the set up you are doing, you're going to have to get rid of the battery anyway. I had a hard time fitting a 2 1/4in vac hose from the airbox to the foglight hole. Good luck with 3in metal.

 

What are they then??

 

HAIs or crapola, whichever you prefer.

Just visualize where the tubing is going (or not going) it's not too chilly anywhere in the engine bay.

 

Why am I going to metal? Mostly looks and the lack of availability of plastic piping in anything larger than 2" locally. I'm not going through the trouble of ordering 2.5"+ off the internet, it's not worth it. As far as size, it's impossible to keep it uniform given where I'm routing piping, so the final design will have it matched as close as possible and that will have to do. I'm still just an NA 3.0L V6, it's not like I need to flow a TON of air.
No, I'm not getting rid of the battery. The battery is merely shoved as far left in the battery tray as it can go, and that alone, combined with the space under the fuse box on the side, are about 3". I've already taken the measurements, I already know it can work.

Where did you route your 2.25" hose?

 

That's basically saying that all CAI are worthless. Are you gonna fight that with every CAI? Of course it's not cold in the engine bay. It's just that the CAI is supposed to get cooler air right? I'm now putting the crap filter on the end anyway (k&n filter probably).

 

Well I have been thinking about the hood scoop for a while now. Especially since I discovered that my air filter lacks the inflow tubing or whatever used to fit there. It just sucks air straight from the engine bay. I need all the "cold" air I can get, the ambient temp in summer gets up to 40C quite often and even as high as 44C on occasion. Maybe I should connect all the aircon vents together and route that to the intake
Anyway my existing hood needs repainting which makes me even more tempted to get out the electric saw and the fiberglass. I'll have to experiment to see if it's possible to route the airflow, a centre scoop would look fine I think (of course it would have to be flowed properly and the paint job done right).

 

Isn't this going a bit drastic for a few HP from a 3.0L V6? I mean my intake idea seems to be stretching it as far as worthiness as it is, but atleast I'm not making irreversible changes or spending lots of time and money.

 

True CAI gets colder air from where its shielded away from the heat of the engine

That intake just sits in the engine bay sucking in hot air

 

What would you consider my idea then? It's technically sitting in the engine bay, but with the other light I have with the cut-out, it's actually getting outside air...

 

I was refering to the ebay link he posted, but your intake should work fine. Im pretty sure a couple guys here have done it with headlight for the track, but its going to be tough to get that pipe to the corner light

 

pushed the battery all the way towards the engine on the tray and under the fuse box. There looks like there is alot more room there then there really is.

 

Okay...the tubing is going behind the foglight...it is separated from the heat of the engine...colder air is accesable from the hole of the foglight...I dont have a foglight so I get lots of colder air especially since the air is trapped into that area while the car is moving...

I still dont understand why the place racing style intakes arent real cold air intakes.

 

Where do you plan to route your tubing? I'm just curious, I'd like to know the exact path (what it's going under, around, etc.).

PR CAI's could be considered true CAI's, but only if they are indeed placed in the fenderwell.

 

I've already taken measurements. There's just shy of 3" of space down there. That, however, depends how you route it. You can't do a straight shot of 3" tubing through there, it'll run into a few things that you'd need to clear out first.

 

Yeah the biggest thing in the way was the wiring for the fusebox. I ran from the stock airbox to behind the battery down that cavity behind the headlight and down to the foglight hole.

 

Yeesh. That's a lot of bends. I'm trying to keep mine as bend free, and all bends will be <90º. All-in-all, it should have one 45º bend downward to get it at the level where it will travel, one 45º bend to get it facing the front of the car, then a 22.5º bend to place the filter at a good angle in front of the clearance light.

 

its just two bends, one down towards the fog and another facing forward at idle i feel vacuum from the vac hose. so its pulling some air from there

 

Hey, if it works!

 

why not right behind the fans? if you have a manual fan set up then you can always have air blowing on your intake..? just a thought

 

Because it pulls air through the HOT radiator. The air on the backside of the fans would be HOT. HOT air is BAD.

 

It would be like an Injen intake. HOT HOT HOT

 

Exactly...hence why we don't call the Injen a true CAI.

 

Probably!
I have trouble resisting temptation. That is why I still have a complete set of oxy-acetylene gear.

 

Stop playing around and take your DS headlight out FTMFW Tatanko.

 

why not just do a short ram set up and make a box for the cone filter to fit in as a heat shield and cut out a square on the hood....then put in a hood scoop. This would ensure an intake with 0 bends.

 

I was thinking of doing the CAI intake from ebay or bending my own like Tatanko's idea and doing a custom heat shield. Try to box it so it gets cooler air and tries to protect against hot. Havn't looked into it yet but I think it's possible.

Some sheet metal and heat proffing or something like that...shouldn't be too hard. Most likely just tough to fit and attach.

 

DS headlight? (*brain fart*)

Don't know why I'm even still talking about this. My filter and MAF adapter haven't even been shipped yet even though I ordered them over a week ago (I severely hate the Maxima parts community ATM)

 

Driver's Side....

 

Uhh...hehe...yeah. Actually, the way everything is located that wouldn't really help me. I could relocate the battery and then pop out the headlight and run tubing straightforward but that's a lot of work and a lot of extra money for like 2 WHP.

 

Ah but would it be 'just' 2HP?
I wonder how much boost you could get with a good big scoop funneled straight into the intake. Obviously zero boost at the traffic lights waiting to go, but as forward speed increases, ram-air effect will raise the intake pressure. Far too much math for me to work that out

 

I'm guessing it would be better than the hood scoop idea

 

use plastic... it wont hardly heat up compared to metal or aluminum

 

Hence why I'm going with plastic...

 

then get rubber plummbing stuff from home depot lol, barely gets hot after a long drive. I have one on my fiance's grand am, which spanks my max for some reason...

 

I am using a Injen CAI with a heat shield. It works great with no problems.

 

I thought the heat shield was only there for show? It really does work huh?

 

looks like someone's about to get banned...

 

Yeah, and stay away from that metal dryer duct from home depot. It chips easilly at the edges and the crimps. I rinsed the inside of it with a garden hose to clear out any dust or foreign particles prior to use and seen small metal flakes everywhere. Who knew how many were still inside. I threw it away immediately. Plastics make it possible

 

Rubber? No. Just plastic. If you're getting beat by a Grand Am, that's sad. Even the V6 versions have no *****, I've driven many.

 

I blame it on my mevi, the v6 has some *****, have you seen the torque curve on them? back on topic. the rubber does work, I made the intake in the plumbing isle of home depot, 3in 90s and some 3in plastic pipe.