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Old 03-22-2006, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVE Sz
people put HIDs with projectors in them, those who just put in a HID kit with no projectors, well, let's not talk about them.
Yeah, I think they're dumb. Hence why I have E46 bi-xenons. Glad to see another non-supporter of factory housing HIDs
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exactly, thats what I ment, didn't mean to preach tatanko, I highly respect anyone with projector headlights, especially bi-xenon ones, I just wish i was able to save up that kinda money . . . some day
Uhhh...yeah, hehe, they're a bit expensive
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I wonder if those'll fit inside of a OEM fog...
Interesting proposition...I wonder if it'd be worth the trouble of messing with the stock fog housings to make that work. As I said above, you may want to find a way to sand off the etched-in pattern on the glass so as not to ruin the beam pattern or output.
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Originally Posted by Karim
You'd have to take out the lens screw and aim the projector manually and hope that its aimed perfectly before you seal up the fogs.
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The stock fog lens isn't clear. It's contoured in a way to help distribute the beam of the fog lamp, like the 95-96 headlights. I think it'll mess with a projector's beam pattern.
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NookieMax
check out this thread for some more ideas:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=409285


here's a pic:
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Way to use my picture without citing the source!

Originally Posted by Karim
I wonder if those'll fit inside of a OEM fog...
That's why I bought 'em, I was hoping that I could do it somehow.
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Old 03-22-2006, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NookieMax
I bought a pair and will be installing them once its warmer outside, I'll also be lookin to make some covers to fill in the rest of the space around the fog in the stock opening.
After seeing the CE fogs, I had this same sort of idea myself. Of course on a 95-96 like mine, I think it's more crucial...a little circular aftermarket fog looks more odd in the square-shaped hole on our bumpers than it does on the more natural hole of the 97+ bumper.

I was thinking maybe cut it to the shape of the hole, cut a hole out to let the lense of the projector come through, and paint the "cover" a flat black color or something. I think this would look similar to newer cars that have the same sort of deal with circular fogs.

Oh and MorpheusZero, the beam pattern and cutoff look great on those. You're convincing me to buy them
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wait a min. The stock fog light lens has the beam pattern built in them. So if you retro fit some aftermarket fogs in them the beam pattern will be the same. So won't it be pointless. Just a thought.
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Old 03-22-2006, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
After seeing the CE fogs, I had this same sort of idea myself. Of course on a 95-96 like mine, I think it's more crucial...a little circular aftermarket fog looks more odd in the square-shaped hole on our bumpers than it does on the more natural hole of the 97+ bumper.

I was thinking maybe cut it to the shape of the hole, cut a hole out to let the lense of the projector come through, and paint the "cover" a flat black color or something. I think this would look similar to newer cars that have the same sort of deal with circular fogs.

Oh and MorpheusZero, the beam pattern and cutoff look great on those. You're convincing me to buy them
Yeah, it's pretty good... they could be a little brighter but overall they're pretty good. Tell ya what, I'll trade you my projectors for your projectors, split the shipping and call it even.




I need projectors........
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Originally Posted by darklegend06
wait a min. The stock fog light lens has the beam pattern built in them. So if you retro fit some aftermarket fogs in them the beam pattern will be the same. So won't it be pointless. Just a thought.
You're right, but not entirely. The internal beam pattern of the fog lights will be altered, thus changing the exiting beam pattern. It will be an improvement for sure, but I'm still concerned whether it's actually worth it in the end for something that's not too visible through glass that isn't very clear (and whose beam pattern may be adversely affected).
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Old 03-22-2006, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
Yeah, it's pretty good... they could be a little brighter but overall they're pretty good. Tell ya what, I'll trade you my projectors for your projectors, split the shipping and call it even.
<--- this is not me, buddy

Surely they're brighter than stock. Brightness isn't even really all that important to me...more that they are functional in bad weather (esp. fog) where my HIDs take a bit of a hurting on output. I'm also sick of seeing my nice E46's and then having these big ol' blobs of foglights beneath them. Both sets of lights being projectors would be VERY nice.
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Yeah, in bad weather your projectors will still help more than these fogs... but they will definitely look significantly better than your stockers. They're brighter as well, 55W H3. Just not stupid bright, you know? I guess I just need HID fogs or something...
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
Yeah, in bad weather your projectors will still help more than these fogs... but they will definitely look significantly better than your stockers. They're brighter as well, 55W H3. Just not stupid bright, you know? I guess I just need HID fogs or something...
Isn't 55W H3 the same as stock? Either way, they're bound to be brighter since they are projectors and don't have cloudy, etched glass to deal with.
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
Isn't 55W H3 the same as stock? Either way, they're bound to be brighter since they are projectors and don't have cloudy, etched glass to deal with.
Think stockers are actually 35W... wouldn't make sense to have foglights that are more powerful than the lowbeams now would it?

I need to find a way to smooth out that glass, then we'd be talking....
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
Think stockers are actually 35W... wouldn't make sense to have foglights that are more powerful than the lowbeams now would it?

I need to find a way to smooth out that glass, then we'd be talking....
H3 55w, as confirmed by several sources.

Honestly, I think trying to retro them in the stock housings is a waste of time. It's just way too much work and at the end of the day could look way nicer and perform better with a different setup. Not to mention fogs are expensive, so I'd hate to bastardize perfectly good ones for that purpose.
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Yeah, I'm gonna hold off on tossing the stock fogs in favor of "masked off" projectors until I see how it looks.... point of retroing is that it still looks good..
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Old 03-22-2006, 06:58 PM
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Quick question for you Morpheus...how is the installation of those things? Like what kind of plugs do they use and what not? Is it possible to use the stock fog plugs in the back or does the wiring need bastardized? Did you get the remote wiring kit?
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:25 PM
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Yeah, I got the remote wiring kit. Don't get it, it's crap--almost not worth the extra shipping fees.

The installation is fairly easy, you could actually wire it up like they tell you, splice the relay wire into the stock fog wires and leave their supplied "switch" in the on position.. it'd work the same way...
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Aftermarket Fogs FTW....


Beam Pattern





4500k + 3000k


Quad projectors...(dont trust the camera, headlights arent that glarey)


...more pics to come
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Old 03-23-2006, 01:48 AM
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Hmm.... you got me hooked, show us more
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
Hmm.... you got me hooked, show us more
Oh, me too...I want to see pictures of them off.
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+1....

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Originally Posted by DpG $h0rTeE

Quad projectors...(dont trust the camera, headlights arent that glarey)
You have my dream setup, looks sick man
any pics of them with the lights off?
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Originally Posted by NookieMax
You have my dream setup, looks sick man
It's not my dream setup, but it's close enough.

What kind of bulbs go in those things, anyway? Are they the CE fogs?
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Bump

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^Would like to know as well what type of fogs are those.
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To get the foglamps to put out such yellow light, he must have a filter over the bulb. Selective yellow coatings don't make the light that deep yellow.
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OEM looks waaaaaaayyy better
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Originally Posted by Fido Auto
OEM looks waaaaaaayyy better

Bleh....to each his own!!

NEW PICS!!! --> http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=463694
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Originally Posted by DpG $h0rTeE
Bleh....to each his own!!

NEW PICS!!! --> http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=463694
He has a point, OEM USUALLY looks nicer...but, all it takes is the right setup to beat it

Very nice pics, btw...which fogs are they?
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They are the PIAA 959 Projectors fitted with 85W Ion Crystal Bulbs
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Originally Posted by DpG $h0rTeE
They are the PIAA 959 Projectors fitted with 85W Ion Crystal Bulbs
Thanks.

For anyone that was interested about the CE lights like I was, they are 55w H3 and are NOT plug and play, even with the remote wiring kit.
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