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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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fix transmission leak , without really fixing it?

i know this sounds 100% ghettofied... i just need to patch it up until i get some money.. is there a lucas stopleak for transmissions?


I believe its my differental bearing thats worn out.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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It won't fix that kind of leak.

Get it fixed now or risk blowing up the tranny internals (and tripling the repair costs).

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:53 AM
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It won't fix that kind of leak.

Get it fixed now or risk blowing up the tranny internals (and tripling the repair costs).

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I can't afford to fix it, The limit to transmission stuff i can do is clutch or i would have it on jack stands right now doing it...

i just want to know if there is anything that will stop or atleast slow the leak.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kenscivic
I can't afford to fix it, The limit to transmission stuff i can do is clutch or i would have it on jack stands right now doing it...

i just want to know if there is anything that will stop or atleast slow the leak.
motorvate.ca

it has a nice writeup of a 5spd rebuild.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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I can't afford to fix it, The limit to transmission stuff i can do is clutch or i would have it on jack stands right now doing it...

i just want to know if there is anything that will stop or atleast slow the leak.
No, there is no way to stop it. The axle is moving so much that the seal opening stretches into an oval shape and weeps oil out the other side.

Affordable or not, you need it fixed soon. If you pull it and take it to a tranny shop the bill should be around $500 for a bearings/seals rebuild. Doing just the diff bearings (what the Motorvate.ca site shows) is about half that. If this tranny lasted a reasonably long time (say, 100k), it probably doesn't need the shims changed, which makes the job even more DIY-able. Synchros are generally not necessary.

If you wait, driving may damage the gear teeth and those gears will need replacing at around $200/each. Definitely no hard launches or full-throttle acceleration if you intend to get this one fixed. Extra damage here is much more costly than credit card interest.

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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motorvate.ca

it has a nice writeup of a 5spd rebuild.
He covers the replacement of the differential carrier bearings only. It's less that half of what's involved in a 'full' rebuild.

If you recognize carrier bearing failure early, doing what the Motorvate.ca site shows is usually enough.
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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You are going to destroy your trans if you keep driving with worn out diff bearings, look at the I30 section there is a good thread with pics of this. Should be on first couple pages....I think it is KRZ350...
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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go take a look at car-part.com, you should be able to pick up a trans for pretty cheap off there, its not worth rebuilding it will cost you quite a bit more. For now, you can continue to keep topping off the fluid but eventually it WILL destroy your trans. The bearing will fall apart and get all over the insides. That happened on mine, kept running it with the bad bearings, by time i got it apart there were pieces of the bearings all over in there, i got lucky though and they didn't damage the gears
Old Apr 4, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by motocross416
go take a look at car-part.com, you should be able to pick up a trans for pretty cheap off there, its not worth rebuilding it will cost you quite a bit more. For now, you can continue to keep topping off the fluid but eventually it WILL destroy your trans. The bearing will fall apart and get all over the insides. That happened on mine, kept running it with the bad bearings, by time i got it apart there were pieces of the bearings all over in there, i got lucky though and they didn't damage the gears
Actually, the bearing bits are already all throughout the tranny.

The risk is actually from the play in the differential - the teeth will break where the differential meshes with the mainshaft because they aren't being held with the proper spacing.

Here's another example of how bad bearings becomes much worse:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....t=differential

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
Actually, the bearing bits are already all throughout the tranny.

The risk is actually from the play in the differential - the teeth will break where the differential meshes with the mainshaft because they aren't being held with the proper spacing.

Here's another example of how bad bearings becomes much worse:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....t=differential

Dave
ouch, looks like I got off lucky with no damage to teh gears
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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i took it to a transmission shop


they said it was just the drivers side axle output shaft seal.
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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That's where the fluid is leaking from...but before you know it, it will leak again. Replacing the seal, only bandaids the fix - for a short short time. The underlying problem is the bearings allowing play in the axle, and WILL damage the new seal in no time. In my case, it took an hour on a highway before the seal was already bad again...and pouring fluid in my driveway. That was a lot of fun.
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BigLou93SE
That's where the fluid is leaking from...but before you know it, it will leak again. Replacing the seal, only bandaids the fix - for a short short time. The underlying problem is the bearings allowing play in the axle, and WILL damage the new seal in no time. In my case, it took an hour on a highway before the seal was already bad again...and pouring fluid in my driveway. That was a lot of fun.

40 miles later, seal is leaking... your right man 100%
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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700 bucks to replace all bearings and seals.. thats gay.

so i had the car for 10 days and have paid 1000 bucks all together
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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They should be slapped for not noticing the play where the axle enters the tranny.

Sorry to hear the seal didn't fix it - I was hoping for you ...

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Originally Posted by kenscivic
40 miles later, seal is leaking... your right man 100%
Sorry to hear that, but I expected it. That is pretty bad that the tranny place didn't seem to "notice" that kind of axle play, and neglect to take that into account. Good luck, I've been there.
Old Apr 5, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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thanks guys... i called the transmission shop that replaced the seal and asked if i could get atleast a partial refund.

they said the transmission fluid that is leaking is just from what dripped on the frame when they pulled out the axle, i told them they are wrong but of course, nothing is going as planned thus far..


thanks again guys
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 07:43 AM
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update...


the dealership that sold me the car on the 29th has agreed to pay half of the rebuild.. plus we are going through the shop he takes all his cars too

i only gotta pay like 250 bucks plus i am going to go ahead and buy a clutch and get themto put it in.


but now i have to go without a car for a few days
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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What year was your max? I have a simialar instance with my 98 i30, but supposedly the dealer changed out the bearings. Good Luck.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kenscivic
update...


the dealership that sold me the car on the 29th has agreed to pay half of the rebuild.. plus we are going through the shop he takes all his cars too

i only gotta pay like 250 bucks plus i am going to go ahead and buy a clutch and get themto put it in.


but now i have to go without a car for a few days
When I first got my car - I didn't have my car for a month. The wholesaler I got the car from replaced the tranny FIVE times, each on except the very last one leaking. Don't feel too bad about a couple of days
It seems like a pretty good deal too - $250 for everything inlcuding labor? Not bad if that's the case.
Good luck bro.
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