Sway Bar End Link replacement How to. (pics)
#42
ive been having this same clunk/cling/clang ocassionaly on the driver front side. I jacked the car up and took the wheels off(twice- and its not the coilovers) but when i started yanking on those end links there was no play in them like some have encountered. Im not even sure where the LCA and subframe bushings are or how to even diagnose for that sound. Sigh
#43
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Originally Posted by tikiboom
ive been having this same clunk/cling/clang ocassionaly on the driver front side. I jacked the car up and took the wheels off(twice- and its not the coilovers) but when i started yanking on those end links there was no play in them like some have encountered. Im not even sure where the LCA and subframe bushings are or how to even diagnose for that sound. Sigh
How many miles on your car? I am almost positive its your endlinks.
When i inspecated i couldn't get them to make the noise but sure enough after removal it was indeed these items.
#45
Red arrow showing how close your traction bar is to your oil filter?
Anyway I would remove the top nut from the endlink, unloading the bushing. If the bushing is all squashed still then it's time to replace it, but if it springs back into the shape of a cylinder then it should still be good. I don't think the endlink itself is actually "dead" until it breaks/disconnects somehow, feel free to chime in or correct me here... but if you're going to replace the bushing then you might as well replace the endlink as it will eventually go bad anyway (and it's pretty cheap/easy).
Anyway I would remove the top nut from the endlink, unloading the bushing. If the bushing is all squashed still then it's time to replace it, but if it springs back into the shape of a cylinder then it should still be good. I don't think the endlink itself is actually "dead" until it breaks/disconnects somehow, feel free to chime in or correct me here... but if you're going to replace the bushing then you might as well replace the endlink as it will eventually go bad anyway (and it's pretty cheap/easy).
#46
Yep the red arrow shows how close the oil filter is to the traction bar. I used this pic at another traction bar related thread.
As for the end link, I do plan to replace them soon. I just wanted to get an idea of the condition of this end link by the way it looks on the pic. Thanks for the reply.
As for the end link, I do plan to replace them soon. I just wanted to get an idea of the condition of this end link by the way it looks on the pic. Thanks for the reply.
Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
Red arrow showing how close your traction bar is to your oil filter?
Anyway I would remove the top nut from the endlink, unloading the bushing. If the bushing is all squashed still then it's time to replace it, but if it springs back into the shape of a cylinder then it should still be good. I don't think the endlink itself is actually "dead" until it breaks/disconnects somehow, feel free to chime in or correct me here... but if you're going to replace the bushing then you might as well replace the endlink as it will eventually go bad anyway (and it's pretty cheap/easy).
Anyway I would remove the top nut from the endlink, unloading the bushing. If the bushing is all squashed still then it's time to replace it, but if it springs back into the shape of a cylinder then it should still be good. I don't think the endlink itself is actually "dead" until it breaks/disconnects somehow, feel free to chime in or correct me here... but if you're going to replace the bushing then you might as well replace the endlink as it will eventually go bad anyway (and it's pretty cheap/easy).
#47
Originally Posted by zack342
How many miles on your car? I am almost positive its your endlinks.
When i inspecated i couldn't get them to make the noise but sure enough after removal it was indeed these items.
When i inspecated i couldn't get them to make the noise but sure enough after removal it was indeed these items.
If that doesnt work its on to the LCA's
#49
good post. I am getting ready to go out and do mine right now. You must get a really good discount or else you were not charged for some parts. Because I bought all the parts you did from my local nissan dealership, and they were about $50 with tax. I also get a discount at the dealership
Ok, I finished a little while ago. It took me about two hours as well, I also did a strut bearing while I was on the driver side. The job was not hard but the nuts were not the easiest to get off. The only things I can add that helped me are: 1) use channel locks or vise grips to hold the nut on the the lower part where it goes thru the LCA...it spins when its a little loose and the nut will not tighten or come off with out holding it. Also they were helpful in holding the rod, so that I could tighten the top nut with out flexing the boot too much. 2) I took out my camber bolts as well once the sway bar end links were loose...the just fell right out after I did that.
I have not really driven the car yet. I'll post back if I notice any difference. My car had 165k on it and the bushings were all cracked up.
Ok, I finished a little while ago. It took me about two hours as well, I also did a strut bearing while I was on the driver side. The job was not hard but the nuts were not the easiest to get off. The only things I can add that helped me are: 1) use channel locks or vise grips to hold the nut on the the lower part where it goes thru the LCA...it spins when its a little loose and the nut will not tighten or come off with out holding it. Also they were helpful in holding the rod, so that I could tighten the top nut with out flexing the boot too much. 2) I took out my camber bolts as well once the sway bar end links were loose...the just fell right out after I did that.
I have not really driven the car yet. I'll post back if I notice any difference. My car had 165k on it and the bushings were all cracked up.
#50
sigh, it did not do it for me. Replaced both sides w/ OEM endlinks and that driverside clunk/knock sound is still there. Its driving me nuts. Gonna swap the stock suspension back in tomorrow to see if that gets rid of it. And if it doesnt its on to the mechanic with her.
#52
Originally Posted by tikiboom
sigh, it did not do it for me. Replaced both sides w/ OEM endlinks and that driverside clunk/knock sound is still there. Its driving me nuts. Gonna swap the stock suspension back in tomorrow to see if that gets rid of it. And if it doesnt its on to the mechanic with her.
On the drive to work this morning the front end does feel more stable. All though I cannot say that I noticed a night and day change like some others are reporting.
#54
Originally Posted by tikiboom
Hmm the axle is the only thing i didnt tug on to check for play.
But i thought when you have axle problems its a constant clicking sound
But i thought when you have axle problems its a constant clicking sound
#56
I just checked my car and the bushing are extremely cracked at 137K, plus I've been having what sounds like the same clunking that zack had. Just order new end links and bushings, thanks for the thread!
#57
Originally Posted by Nismo3112
There was so much play in the old ones, I could probably pull the joint right out.. Here's a pic:
I got mine from Autorock.com but then there is no installation instructions to go about with these greasable tie rods.... Any help is much appreciated
#58
Originally Posted by dvenki
Could you tell me what kind and how much grease was used before putting the lock pin. Do you need to rotate it 360 to see if the tie rod is well lubricated?
I got mine from Autorock.com but then there is no installation instructions to go about with these greasable tie rods.... Any help is much appreciated
I got mine from Autorock.com but then there is no installation instructions to go about with these greasable tie rods.... Any help is much appreciated
are you sure you are talking about the right thing? These are sway bar end links...not tie rods (though the do look kinda like outter tie rod ends). Also these do not have cotter pins, but tie rod ends have cotter pins and crown nuts. When I did my tie rods I did not add any greese to anything.
#59
Originally Posted by zack342
Finally reinstalled links should look like this
#60
Hmmm....are you sure??? My max has 160k and the bushings are cracked and split. It's hard to believe that at 214k, yours would look like the pic. It could be that yours was replaced not long ago.
Originally Posted by Mxrider52
This is what mine look like right now. Turned to the side. They have 214K on them. Does this mean I need new ones or anything? I have heard no type of noises or anything.
#61
Originally Posted by DR-Max
Hmmm....are you sure??? My max has 160k and the bushings are cracked and split. It's hard to believe that at 214k, yours would look like the pic. It could be that yours was replaced not long ago.
#62
The joint that connects to the LCA needs to be straight not angled like that at all times. It's hard to tell the actual orientation of it when the car is jacked up. The joint should be straight when the wheel is on the ground.
Originally Posted by Mxrider52
Well I mean that the way the bottom of the end link looks where it bolts to the lca it is turned sideways and not straight like shown in the pic(the bushing). I didnt mean they looked like that in new condition.
#65
Does anyone know if each trim level has a different size sway bar up front? I am asking because the sway bar to frame bushing that I replaced today, did not seem to fit very well. The hole in the bushing was a little too small.
#68
i bought the MOOG parts. they came with directions but its not like full directions.
i need to know some info because they are slightly differnt from oem.
they have some sort of L shaped valve on the back with a ball at the end of the valve (like a ball point pen). and it mentions of greasing the assem. where do i put in the greese and how do i put this L shaped thing in?
yes these are sway bar end links, they are differnt because they are from MOOG and they are not OEM. leme know more details, pics if ya can
ALSO, would an alignment need to be done after the install of these parts?
i need to know some info because they are slightly differnt from oem.
they have some sort of L shaped valve on the back with a ball at the end of the valve (like a ball point pen). and it mentions of greasing the assem. where do i put in the greese and how do i put this L shaped thing in?
yes these are sway bar end links, they are differnt because they are from MOOG and they are not OEM. leme know more details, pics if ya can
ALSO, would an alignment need to be done after the install of these parts?
#72
I bought the Moog end links, installed and the bushings are now shot after 2000 miles. The bushings on the lower side are ripping, and not holding up. Now I'm going to rebuy using oem. I should have done it right the first time.
#73
Originally Posted by adithius
I bought the Moog end links, installed and the bushings are now shot after 2000 miles. The bushings on the lower side are ripping, and not holding up. Now I'm going to rebuy using oem. I should have done it right the first time.
#75
While you're at it I'd do the sway bar mount bushings too. They're only a few bucks and they we're the ones thatwere shot on mine. The DS was split right through!
HUGE improvement in handling.
A must-do for all 4th gens (by now)
HUGE improvement in handling.
A must-do for all 4th gens (by now)
#78
torque the endlink bushings to 16-22 ft lbs
here's my write up for sway bar bushings/endlinks & LCA's i've made while back
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/348507/15
Nick.
here's my write up for sway bar bushings/endlinks & LCA's i've made while back
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/348507/15
Nick.
#79
Sway Bar End Link replacement How to
Please advise if these Part Numbers being the same for '96 I30. My car has similar 'clung' sound from driver side whenever I make a left turn, and getting very loud at low speed left turn (when I made a left turn into my driveway). I also got the shop to install the Addco sway bar last year, so at this point I am confused if these noises coming from the worn-out Addco bushings or the Nissan worn-out parts? Please suggest. Thanks.
Originally Posted by dgeesaman
End Link: 54618-0E000 ($14.49)
Washer (2 per side): 56113-60U05 ($1.28)
Bushing (2 per side): 56112-V0100 ($2.40)
Upper Nut: 01223-00291 ($0.54)
Lower nut: 01225-00261 ($0.66)
Unless you know of damage, I would only buy the bushings and link and re-use the hardware. These part numbers were pulled for a 97 SE, but I'm almost positive they work for all 4th gens.
Dave
Washer (2 per side): 56113-60U05 ($1.28)
Bushing (2 per side): 56112-V0100 ($2.40)
Upper Nut: 01223-00291 ($0.54)
Lower nut: 01225-00261 ($0.66)
Unless you know of damage, I would only buy the bushings and link and re-use the hardware. These part numbers were pulled for a 97 SE, but I'm almost positive they work for all 4th gens.
Dave
#80
Just replaced on my Max
Just did this repair last weekend. If there is a lot of rust on the lower bolt (the one that connects to the LC) you will have to cut the bolt with a hacksaw, at least I did. I got a quote on how much it would cost to replace these guys while doing the LCA's and they said $91. Thats $91 to undo two nuts, one from each side. They already have to undo the lower nut to get the LCA off. That was enough modivation to continue doing work myself. If your PS rack is leaking you will probably need to replace the swaybar bushings too.