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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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Whats the most power you can get out of a n/a max? After down pipe headers cat back and cai, i'm what mods would be the best. I was thinking about getting a apexi safcII and a fuel pressure regulator, but i know for everymod after that, the motor will have to (should have to) be re tuned. I dont know i guess i'm just want more from the whip.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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00vi? Upgraded on ECU?
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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Alto after ECUS CAMs 00Varible Intake maybe a bor job and exhaust maby 250-300HP? But the real powers in forced induction (turbocharg / supercharger) for more info see the NA forums
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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maybe a bor job
You make that sound so simple and easy. It's also bore.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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Alto after ECUS CAMs 00Varible Intake maybe a bor job and exhaust maby 250-300HP? But the real powers in forced induction (turbocharg / supercharger) for more info see the NA forums
Lets get out the rice calculator!

Why has no one mentioned the VQ35DE? If you are going all out for N/A power it is relatively inexpensive from that standpoint.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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Lets get out the rice calculator!

Why has no one mentioned the VQ35DE? If you are going all out for N/A power it is relatively inexpensive from that standpoint.
i dont have enough money for a motor swap. at least not right now. I'm kinda buyin a bike so yea. but how much can i find a oovi for?
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Well all the people in the motor section said that it is not really possible to get a N/A max past 250 at the most. The only way is a motor swap or a turbo,s/c.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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lol the motor swap will be faster and cheaper then all those mods you listed. in the long run, plus you have a less older motor.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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lol the motor swap will be faster and cheaper then all those mods you listed. in the long run, plus you have a less older motor.
AKA newer.....

If you are talking about MEVI/00VI it would be worthless without the revlimit increased. I dont see many ECU's going for under 400 so put that and the VI together and you will find yourself alot closer to that swap price.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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AKA newer.....

If you are talking about MEVI/00VI it would be worthless without the revlimit increased. I dont see many ECU's going for under 400 so put that and the VI together and you will find yourself alot closer to that swap price.


ahhhhh, I never thought of that, but that is a VERY good point....

Here is what would be nice I think...

vq35DE, cams, pulley, Intake, 00vi, vq30 exhaust manifold, y-pipe, high-flo cat, catback, SAFC II, ECU

Weight issues.....

Lighter wheels, carbon fiber hood, CF trunk


That would be one BAD car...IMO.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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ahhhhh, I never thought of that, but that is a VERY good point....

Here is what would be nice I think...

vq35DE, cams, pulley, Intake, 00vi, vq30 exhaust manifold, y-pipe, high-flo cat, catback, SAFC II, ECU

Weight issues.....

Lighter wheels, carbon fiber hood, CF trunk


That would be one BAD car...IMO.
Why would you go through the trouble of putting the 00VI on the 3.5? What's the point? Put a 350Z manifold on instead and actually gain power. Why waste time with the manifolds as well? Go for the headers. Don't tell me cost, either, because it seems like you're trying to go for the idealistic NA Max here.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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in reality motor swap after would be way cheaper then getting a turbo or supercharger kit. Especially after selling the vq30. Would i be able to take my headers off and and drop them on the vq35 then put them the stock 35 back on 30 for the selling of the motor? I dont know but whow much faster would the vq35 be unchipped and with stock intake mani? also would i have to relocate motor mounts?......woah mad $$$$
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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well stock VQ35 are anywhere from 255-265 BHP.....as opposed to a DE-K which is 222 BHP....and a regular vq30de which is 190 BHP....so save ur money do a 3.5 swap...and there are plenty of 350z engine parts that work on the FWD models as well....but if u want more power out of ur 3.0 do 00vi....Emanage Ultimate or SAFC2 with upgraded injectors...Cams....headers....y-pipe....headwork.....and in all motor forum we said 250-300 whp could be done jsut not cheaply
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
Why would you go through the trouble of putting the 00VI on the 3.5? What's the point? Put a 350Z manifold on instead and actually gain power. Why waste time with the manifolds as well? Go for the headers. Don't tell me cost, either, because it seems like you're trying to go for the idealistic NA Max here.
You haven't been to the AM forums in awhile have you? Z33 mani loses power (and area IIRC). It just smoothes out the curve.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
well stock VQ35 are anywhere from 255-265 BHP.....as opposed to a DE-K which is 222 BHP....and a regular vq30de which is 190 BHP....so save ur money do a 3.5 swap...and there are plenty of 350z engine parts that work on the FWD models as well....but if u want more power out of ur 3.0 do 00vi....Emanage Ultimate or SAFC2 with upgraded injectors...Cams....headers....y-pipe....headwork.....and in all motor forum we said 250-300 whp could be done jsut not cheaply
Think he would want a VAFCII with a VI.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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its not true that you need the ecu upgrade for the 00VI. I dyno'ed my 00vi and gained power down low, and up top, as opposed to the mevi where you will lose down low and gain after 5500, but redline at 6600, and still make power up to 7200+. ECU is much more necessary for the MEVI, not so much with the 00VI. But I'd go with the 3.5 swap, more bang for your buck. Especially with headers.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
Z33 mani loses power (and area IIRC). It just smoothes out the curve.
This is all w/out working VTC's. I'm sure it's a different story otherwise.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
Think he would want a VAFCII with a VI.
yes yes.......doesnt have too...but will have to spend an xtra 100 on rpm switch....safc are lil cheaper than vafc.....but yes VAFC FTW...aqnd u dont need ECU fro 00vi or MEVI.....u will just see even more gains with them.....again building an all motor NA 300ho vq30de isnt cheap at all.......thats y u do it over time.....but again Swaps are ur friend
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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This is all w/out working VTC's. I'm sure it's a different story otherwise.
Basically what I was hinting at, but I wasn't aware there were any new dynos, either. Need to hit up the AM section...
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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i swear i could pick up the vq35 from the junk yard for dirt cheap. So i could drop my headers on that? would i have to relocate motor mounts? any way i swear i could get a used vq35 for cheaper then the price of an ecu + 00vi or mevi but.....max's are the sh*t
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Originally Posted by maxgp1029
i swear i could pick up the vq35 from the junk yard for dirt cheap. So i could drop my headers on that? would i have to relocate motor mounts? any way i swear i could get a used vq35 for cheaper then the price of an ecu + 00vi or mevi but.....max's are the sh*t
You can re-use your current motor mount locations, they are the same basic block. This is assuming you get a FWD 3.5 from the junkyard. Even if you do get the VQ35 for cheaper than that (not likely) then you'll still need a good bit of other things, plus it's a lot of work and downtime if you plan to do it all yourself. If not, prepare to pay a good bit of $$$.
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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off topic but does anyone know the part # for the K&N filter that people use to replace the injen cai filter
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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NO....BUT MAX'S ARE DOPE.....i need a super charger/.....
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 04:11 AM
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than y u starting N/A threads if u want boost
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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lol, good point
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
Why would you go through the trouble of putting the 00VI on the 3.5? What's the point? Put a 350Z manifold on instead and actually gain power. Why waste time with the manifolds as well? Go for the headers. Don't tell me cost, either, because it seems like you're trying to go for the idealistic NA Max here.
Don't even bother with the Z manifold just get you some of that secret sauce.

Old Jul 5, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr33way
AKA newer.....

If you are talking about MEVI/00VI it would be worthless without the revlimit increased.
I don't know about that. You will get a little extra out of the MEVI/00VI by having the extended limiter but it's not a night and day difference. I had the one of the first Technosquare ECU's for my 97 and I didn't feel much difference at the top anyway being that the ECU is a midrange mod.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
than y u starting N/A threads if u want boost

i already strate up said i can't afford it. if i could then i would obviously want the supercharger......who wouldn't if they had the money.
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by maxgp1029
i already strate up said i can't afford it. if i could then i would obviously want the supercharger......who wouldn't if they had the money.
I'd take a 3.5 swap over a s/c.
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You make that sound so simple and easy. It's also bore.
maybe he does "bor" jobs. (giggle)
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I'd take a 3.5 swap over a s/c.

me too NA 3.5 liter power > stuper charger
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