I have a 99 auto max w/ y-pipe, test pipe, and very few other mods. I currently have a hacked stock intake w/ K&n. I did that because it felt like I was getting cut off in the higher RPMs with the stocker before. It does feel like it winds out better, but at the expense of a little low end. Should I try one of those "intakes" that just come with the MAF adapter ring and cone filter (no extension otherwise) and run with the stock midpipe and such? Will this type of intake help the low end more than the hacked box? I'm not doing a cai or changing the stock midpipe. Thanks for any advice.

 

The ONLY intake that helps low-end is bone freakin' stock.

 

10 char....................

 

Since i've heard this multiple times, I wondered could i run another tube parallel to the stock one to filter maybe ripped off another airbox? Would this be a good idea to keep the low end and have a better high end? (maybe not parallel since the tubes would compete for air )

 

u need an MEVI or 00VI....the reason u feel u lose top end power in the higher RPMs is because our stock Intake manifold not intake tubing BLOW MOOSE ****...there is a significnt drop off in power from 5500 to redline

 

so the chokepoint is the manifold and not the intake piping. Sigh if i were more mechanically inclined i'd try an 00vi.

 

MEVI is adirect bolt on...u have the supporting mods to not notice any low end power loss

 

Since you are auto, a cone filter will just your low-end.

 

That's not really true. Personally I've noticed no change in low end with an open filter on (stock everything else on my intake). The reason auto's have low-end lag has nothing to do with the intake, it's because the transmission sucks.

 

IMHO, intakes do nothing at all. Change the manifold if you want some power.

 

Good point, never thought of that. Just like some guy in another thread said, we don't need that low-end, we're not drag racing cars!

 

Not to mention we're FWD...I like my torque and all, but it's no big deal if I lose 2 WTQ at 2000 RPM, for example.

 

Every little bit helps.....

 

Ask anyone who went with a nice CAI or HAI they will all tell you that they lose the low end torque. Many mechanics suggest the same thing.

High HP is nice but bro it aint worth it imo. I have a PR CAI, and I wont bother with one in the future.

 

Ok, well, it's not something I pulled out of my ass. I'm speaking from personal experience. My current setup is technically a HAI, but with the stock resonator. I noticed no difference between that and the stock air box, and tested it both this summer and this past winter.

 

, although the prcai seemed to add a little something on the low end. butt dyno FTL.

 

Intakes are because none of you actually tune for it, so therefore the set-up is not desireable.

A well set up intake system with some very minor tuning WILL show results, but like I said most of you aren't willing to take the time/$$.

 

Very true, by the time people get into tuning they are beyond the 10 min bolt-on stage. Hell, people making some good power don't even tune around here....

 

Yeah I plan to get a tune but thats not until I get full exhaust and a different I/manifold..

 

An 'intake system' is more than a farkin tube and filter.

Many parts... Filter, tube, MAF, TB...THAT's an intake SYSTEM. After the system is complete, get the electronics talking the same language the system is talking.

Get all of them(or eliminate something ) set up cleverly and you have a power making mod.

 

Yes, I consider it from the filter/MAF/mid/TB/upper/lower but I have a feeling most of the 4th gen forum does not.

 

.... 10 min bolt ons are a thing of the past if you want the ral benefit...

Lazy 's.

Fr33way, do them ***** come in 17x8?.. and What do they read on the scales in that particular dimension?

 

Yes they do, they come in alot of sizes from 13inchers to 18's.

 

I know that 17x8.5 is 15lbs.

The 18x8.5 Magnesium weighs 12.9lbs!

There were a few different versions of the TE-37.

 

Bottom line is that I have an auto 3.0. Even with a mevi/00vi in conjunction with the exhaust work I have, I'm still looking at a 15 second car. It doesn't even seem worth doing any more performance mods. I mean what am I gonna do, a tranny swap or a TC upgrade? With the additional money and time I'd waste, it'd be better off just starting with the right platform in the first place. There aren't any N/A mods other than motor swap that are going to get this car into the mid to low 14's. War on wasting money on slow automatic cars and realizing it when too late. At least mine is still worth more than I owe $9K vs $5K.

 

^^^ I think you answered your own questions.

 

I hate to do that, it means there actually is no hope and that I've just confirmed it. Oh well, reality is a ***** sometimes.

 

motorvate HAI dyno vs stock:

 

Stupid part is, those 2 runs could be attributed to things other than the difference in filter vs. box.

 

yes. further proving that you should do whatever the hell you want and stop listening to what people on car forums tell you. if you need the validation of a bunch of asshats on the internet you have a lot more to worry about than what intake to go with

 

There are many auto 3.0's in the 14's....

 

From what im reading, i would say, keep the stock box, i guess gut it if so desired, but run a straight pipe to the MAF from the TB. eliminate that rubber thing..