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Old 09-13-2006, 03:36 PM
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Starting problem??

I know this has been discussed a million times but, I searched and tried everything there is to try.

This is what happens when the car is sitting for 5 or more hours(doesn't matter temp) it cranks for like 10-12 seconds stumbles a little ad then starts. I tried alot of things including cleaning the throttle body,iacv,pvc,changing fuel filter, ergc selenoid valve, and the satarter was replaced right before i bought it and many other things. I have no check engine light or any other problems.The only thing I can think of now would be the fuel pump, but would that affect the overall performance of the car?? I am hoping some of you max guru's can help me out.
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Checked the battery?
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plugs and wires
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Originally Posted by Muyrec
Checked the battery?
The battery is a brand new optima red top
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Originally Posted by jasonv
plugs and wires

The plugs are brand new ngk's and what wires?? If you mean coils they all seem to be fine.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Cps ...

Whats that??
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Crank Position Sensor.
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Whats that??
nevermind i figured it out. Do you eally think that this is my problem??
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Where is it located?
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Right behind the crank....
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Right behind the crank....
Can you please be a little more specific?
Thankyou.
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Find your crank, it's right behind it, on the lower tangent.
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by babymac
The plugs are brand new ngk's and what wires?? If you mean coils they all seem to be fine.
sorry i forgot maximas are coil on plug. do they all have good spark?
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Old 09-15-2006, 04:26 AM
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Hey everyone.. Sorry to hijack this thread, but I tried to post one and since I have not yet 15 posts I cannot, and apparantly I can't earn those posts in the test forum...

My max is having problems starting, too.. but its like the starter just dies completely.

I can whap it with a screwdriver a few times and it will start but it's been getting weaker over the last 6 months and more frequent. Do I just need to have the starter replaced for the 2nd time? the first time this happened I had it replaced but it didn't solve the issue.

Also, when inspecting it, I've found two cables that are disconnected, one male one female, but, they do not fit together. They are right near the starter but seem to be for different purposes, both disconnected. One is red and one is black. Anyone know what these might be for or to where they go?

Here is a photo (click to enlarge)



Edit: They do reach each other, just one has 3 holes in the socket (red) and the other has one wide blade in the plug (black) ((even though the black looks like a socket and the red looks like a plug.. *shrugs*))
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babymac, I had the same problem a few weeks ago. Two problems:

1. Dying battery. New battery - helped a little especially since it's getting cooler in the morning.
2. Dying coil. This reared it's ugly head this week with alot of stumbling and service engine light coming on - replaced it and *poof* easy starting.

BTW ... my service engine light comes on every year just before emissions checking. What a pain!
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I have no check engine lights.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Find your crank, it's right behind it, on the lower tangent.

You wouldn't happen to know the part number?

Thnaks for the help.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:28 PM
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babymac...try grounding your trannny.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:29 PM
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could also be an injector bleeding off fuel pressure.....i had that happen on my 3rd gen.....but check the CPS first
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Originally Posted by gassian
babymac...try grounding your trannny.
Tried it NO sucess. I think I'm going to try the crank position sensor, but the only thing is there is no cel. Wouldn't there be a cel if it was bad??
This problem is making me go crazy
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Old 09-18-2006, 05:58 PM
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May want to try replacing the ignition switch its cheap and if it dont fix ur problem just return it. it cost me $38 bux at nissan and it fixed 2 of my problems. That was one of them odd but true.
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Originally Posted by overseaz
May want to try replacing the ignition switch its cheap and if it dont fix ur problem just return it. it cost me $38 bux at nissan and it fixed 2 of my problems. That was one of them odd but true.

I'll put it on the list
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Old 09-18-2006, 06:02 PM
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good luck with this, I have the same problem. I've come to the conclusion that its a fuel problem. Its just a guess, but hopefully when I get it checked out next week it will be fixed. Ill let you know what the tech's say if you're still having problems.
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Old 09-18-2006, 06:06 PM
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Fuel pump? But if it was that wouldn't my car run like $hit?? I mean wouldn't affect more then starting?? I don't know??????
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was just tryin to get some info on this problem myself and came across something that i havent read on any of the maxima sites. try changing the coolant sensor. http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/U...ewreliability/

check out that link from consumer guide magazine. thas something that has never been mentioned.
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:17 PM
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Not in this particular thread but a shyte load on this forum...
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check out that link from consumer guide magazine. thas something that has never been mentioned.
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ignition switch

it's very cheap.
http://www.rockauto.com/ref/Airtex/D...tml?1S6365.jpg 23 bux
the plastic inside the switch wears out... this cause starting problem when the key is turned but it doesn't turn the switch all the way.

If your starter is good, ..it's very likely this problem. Starter relay will rarely go bad..almost never(starter relay are cheap though).

check the fuse under on the driver side under panel. There is a fuel pump fuse.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Not in this particular thread but a shyte load on this forum...
If the crank position sensor doesn't work should I try the coolant temp sensor or the ignition switch??

btw I really appreciate everybodies help.
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I think I might try the coolant sensor first since is only about 18 bucks. Can anybody tell me where iy is located?
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Find your crank, it's right behind it, on the lower tangent.
I looked yesterday and found exactly where it is.
Thanks.
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Old 09-19-2006, 08:14 AM
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the coolant temp sensor is located right after your rubber hose coming off the radiator from the front of the engine. You will see it screwed to a metal piece from that rubber hose..
I can't get a pic now but did my best on describing..
good luck...

BTW..i replaced my coolant sensor --> nothin
replaced ignition switch --> you feel difference but was still there
grounded the tranny and the starter itself and there was a difference
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h'bout a quick video of it starting? a lil camera phone would usually have those function.
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Old 09-19-2006, 05:29 PM
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Well just replaced the coolant temp sensor and NO difference. Its funny it only does it when it sits fro a few hours?? I guess I'll try the crank position sensor next
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I had the same problem, the only thing I had to do was tighten the nut to the power supply.
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CPS dude, had the same problem last year round this time and had exactly the same symptoms, i had the cps changed and no problems since. A word of the wise, dont hit the gas pedal in an attempt to start the car, i did it and ended up flooding two o2 sensors. Big money.
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Originally Posted by 97maximaman
CPS dude, had the same problem last year round this time and had exactly the same symptoms, i had the cps changed and no problems since. A word of the wise, dont hit the gas pedal in an attempt to start the car, i did it and ended up flooding two o2 sensors. Big money.
Next on the list after of course the starter that just went bad on me
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