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Old 09-26-2006, 07:22 AM
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b-pipe etc

I'm just wondering since I was reading the mod faq and couldn't find what I needed since the link was down, if I got a Y-pipe, is it necessary to get a B-pipe and converter and muffler to get more HP gain?
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Not necessary for more hp, minimal gains at best. The biggest restriction is the y-pipe.
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oh and I"m just wondering what is a test pipe used for, since its on that budget deal on the other thread, I'm kind of curious as to why they'd give it away for free.
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A test pipe w/ a bung in it is usually used for tuning w/a wb02.
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I'm sorry plain english, I don't understand all the technical names u just said... lol, sorry
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With that said, just leave the test pipe out of it, since you wont need it for your application.
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Plus you won't pass emissions testing with a test pipe as it takes the place of a catalytic converter.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:09 AM
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IMO the only thing you would be doing is increasing the diameter to 2.5 all the way back, which would help flow under WOT but not much noticible gain (besides noise perhaps).

IIRC Motorvate dynoed after his b-pipe and saw somewhere around 2-3 hp but I do not recall if those were peak numbers or if they flattened the curve at all (by 2-3hp LOL).
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how much HP does Magnaflow and all those aftermarket converters give out, since I know there are quite a few people with them
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Pretty much none. The only reason you should get an aftermarket hi-flow cat is if your stock one is going out and you need a cheap alternative to OEM that will still pass smog.
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I'm also wondering what good mufflers are there, don't know too many choices, something with a nice finish that doesn't give off that ricey tone
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mufflers only change the SOUND of your maxima. there is no performance gain.

with a catalatic converter you will only see a 1 or 2 hp (possibly margin of error) with a high flow cat.

y-pipe and b-pipe are the only upgrades that will improve hp, around 12 to 20hp (depending who you talk too :P) for a y-pipe, and 2 to 8 hp (ya again i seen so many figures on the b-pipes too).

if you want rice in a maxima, thats sad. try something like Greddy SP2 for a deep grown that sounds nice! stillen has grown on me since i been using it, but its loud and in charge, everyone hears me, used to be really annoying, but my point is, that rice doesnt belong in the v6 territory.
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I'm looking to get a B-pipe, cause I'm getting a bit of a leak out of my existing one. Does anyone know a good website for a relatively cheap one? I dont want a stock one because of the huge crimp in the pipe after the resonator.. Also.. do they sell b-pipes with out resonators? do you think this would increase HP, or just be a lot louder?? (i'm not into that whole ricer sound) Thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by ethnic6
I'm also wondering what good mufflers are there,
Stock 5th gen.

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(i'm not into that whole ricer sound)
then get a b-pipe w/ a resonator, especially if you're adding a y-pipe or already have one.
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here is your one stop shop for all your goodies

http://maxmods.dyndns.org/index.php?MaximaPerformance
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Originally Posted by mindlessoath
if you want rice in a maxima, thats sad.
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I said I didn't want the ricey sound... please read carefully before accusing me on wanting to be ricey...

thanks for the site I've been looking for it...
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how does the HKS muffler look and sound?
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Ricey and .. IMO.
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So the Greddy Sp2 would be the best one besides a 5th Gen right?
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Originally Posted by ethnic6
So the Greddy Sp2 would be the best one besides a 5th Gen right?
well, when ya cant afford a Cattman .. sad I got rid of mine.
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I can afford a cattman, but I don't like the way it looks, looks ricey with that rough finish, whats the best site to find a good price on Tokico, I've searched Frontpage, just wondering if anyone has other websites?
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what does it matter what the b-pipe looks like? I wouldnt think it's rice with the quality it has.
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Get a cattman b pipe and a stock 5g rear section.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
A test pipe w/ a bung in it is usually used for tuning w/a wb02.
I will be getting my O2 soon in the mail and I have the budget test pipe. Some have told me that putting the WB in the test pipe yields no good results and that the WB has to be mounted much closer to the engine like on the exhaust manifold or the ypipe....I dunno what to do...
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If it's in the exhaust manifold, you'll only be reading one bank. The test pipe area is the most logical palce for it to go. Unless you bung your y-pipe before the test pipe, but that would yeild maybe 3-5"
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ohhh, what would I do without you NmexMAX.... LOL
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Originally Posted by ethnic6
I can afford a cattman, but I don't like the way it looks, looks ricey with that rough finish, whats the best site to find a good price on Tokico, I've searched Frontpage, just wondering if anyone has other websites?
I think I just missed something.. did you just say the the cleanest and nicest exhaust system for our cars, looks ricey? please rephrase so that I can correct myself into not thinking that you're the biggest dumb@ss ever.
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Originally Posted by goldtooth
ohhh, what would I do without you NmexMAX.... LOL
not have all those damn cited dyno charts he keeps in the "NMexMax Vault."
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Yeah I didnt understand that at all. I'm psyched, I think I'm getting krismax's old cattman b for $75.
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Originally Posted by Apparition
"NMexMax Vault."


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cattman b for $75.
Damn good price.
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I picked up the cattman muffler and not the b-pipe cause I was afraid it would be too loud. After installing it and hearing the way it sounded with just the muffler made me want to pick up the b-pipe to make it louder cause I love the sound. Even if you don't like the looks of it who cares? The sound definately makes up for it. Also the fit was PERFECT. I didn't have to do anything to it to get it to sit right.
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Originally Posted by Apparition
I think I just missed something.. did you just say the the cleanest and nicest exhaust system for our cars, looks ricey? please rephrase so that I can correct myself into not thinking that you're the biggest dumb@ss ever.
it must be me, but from what I see on the pics, it looks ricey, unless someone has a better picture for me, or maybe its just cause I haven't been looking at the right cattman exhausts???
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Again...what does it matter what it looks like? It's the b-pipe and it sounds fantastic!
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I'm just talking about the muffler, not the b-pipe...
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Old 09-29-2006, 07:46 PM
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i hate to jack a thread.. but i need to quiet down my exhaust.. i actually hate how loud my car is... i think i made a bad choice on a muffler.. i have the budget y and b pipe with the magnaflow res, and a Flowmaster 40 series as the muffler.. and it is louder than when i had the stock with an exhaust leak... would i just need to get a better muffler like a bigger series like a 60 or 70 series, would a 5th gen quiet it down alot? or would i need to replace the resinator also? i have read thread after thread about this and am reading so meny contradicting comments its making my already bad headache worse

I really need help.. and am willing to sell the 40 series and trade it for a 5th gen muffler if i need to..


Please help i am going deaf..
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
If it's in the exhaust manifold, you'll only be reading one bank. The test pipe area is the most logical palce for it to go. Unless you bung your y-pipe before the test pipe, but that would yeild maybe 3-5"
but dont both banks give out the same exhaust? and if they are not how do you adjust each individual bank ?
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Geophrum - the 40 series flowmaster muffler was designed for a muscle car.. I'd say that is your major concern. You can buy a stock replacement muffler from Advanced Autoparts for like $140 which may sound like a lot, but I think it will quiet down your system. But I have a Question for ya.. when you added the LSS (budget) B-pipe, did you notice any HP gains? or a lot of noise gains?
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well on this car i added the budget y and the b with res together so yeah i felt alot of hp gain.. the car has alot more power than befor.. but i can also guess that it could of come from the y-pipe..

i replaced the b-pipe not really for performance but becuase that is were my exhaust leak was coming from... so getting a good deal on the budget y-pipe and a good deal on the b-pipe sounded like the way to go.

i told the guy that put my muffler on that i wanted a quiet car and he didnt tell me anything about how loud this 40 series was.
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i had a Y and budget B(resonated) with stock muffler. It almost sounded like stock with a slight growl. I think this is what your looking for Geo. Now with a cattman rear its quite a bit louder.
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You should try a 5th gen muffler. I think they give off a good sound, from what im told at least. So with the cattman and the stock 5th gen it should sound good and not too loud.
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