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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Exhaust Question

What is the best performing exhaust I can get that does not have the typical ricer sound. I want something that will sound deep and mean but not be too loud.

I also need a good cold air intake setup. Would this make a difference in the sound? Is Injen a good one to use?

Please let me know what your thoughts on this are.

Thanks in advanced!
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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Cattman full exhaust. Injen is a waste of money Go on ebay and buy one of the 30 buck ones that go into the fender and then add a K&N filter.
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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but there are other exhausts as well . Greddy SP is what's on mine for the moment. It's not ricey at all. It can be a bit loud at times from the outside, but well within legal limits.
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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why is there another one of these threads?! Is this not the 4th one in two weeks?
Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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but there are other exhausts as well . Greddy SP is what's on mine for the moment. It's not ricey at all. It can be a bit loud at times from the outside, but well within legal limits.

yea the Greddy's sound nice and not too loud or ricey at all. But the Cattman is also a great system. As far as intake systems go.....I agree with Mxrider.....Injen is a waste of money....any ebay pipe with a K&N filter will give you the same results if not better.
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Cattman B pipe + stock rear section or A33 rear section.
Old Oct 31, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Cattman and the greddy sp2 are both good cat-backs. If you got the cash then i'd say go with cattman but i'm sure you'd be happy with either one of those. And to answer your intake question, yes it will make a HUGE difference in sound if you put a mid pipe in place of the stock intake resonator. It's hard for me to hear my exhaust over my intake.
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 05:55 AM
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Sorry to sound like such a noob to these cars, but what is the difference between the Y pipe and B pipe? Is there more of a performance gain with one over the other? Do they have different sounds... maybe somthing like the X pipe versus the H pipe.

Sorry guys... but I am a long time Mustang guy (Used to have a Bullitt Mustang)... now I want to see what I can get out of my little Maxima.
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Cdg2125
why is there another one of these threads?! Is this not the 4th one in two weeks?
Perhaps it was for the simple reason of asking a similar question in a different way.

I didn't see what I was wanting to find in some of the other threads that I searched.
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 06:43 AM
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My plans:

Place Racing Cold Air Intake: Done
Warpspeed Y-pipe: (waiting on cash)
Cattman Cat-back: (waiting on cash)
possibly piecing the cattman cat-back and getting a GReddy SP2 instead of the cattman muffler/tip

{EDIT} forgot to mention, Place Racing is out of business but Cattman sells the same intake on their website
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Place Racing Cold Air Intake: Done
Warpspeed Y-pipe: (waiting on cash)
Cattman Cat-back: (waiting on cash)
Instead of getting a cat-back, why don't you tune the A/F w/ an AFC in order to take full advantage of the CAI? It will be the same price and you'll get better overall benefits.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Instead of getting a cat-back, why don't you tune the A/F w/ an AFC in order to take full advantage of the CAI? It will be the same price and you'll get better overall benefits.

Would it make sense to do both? Replace the exhaust first and then add the AFC?

Just double checking: A/F = Air Flow, AFC = Air Flow Converter
I didn't think of that, mainly because I am inexperienced, but I will look into it. Any links you suggest to check out to learn more on it?

[Edit: Sorry if I kinda just hijacked the thread]
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Instead of getting a cat-back, why don't you tune the A/F w/ an AFC in order to take full advantage of the CAI? It will be the same price and you'll get better overall benefits.
What kind of performance is given from this? Where can i buy something like this? And more info needed
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AFC is usually made by Apexi. There are other brands tho. Search ebay or the Apexi site for info. Its often used in 00vi swaps to regulate fuel and all. Do some research if you want more info. There's a whole thread in the All Motor forum.
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ganslee
Sorry to sound like such a noob to these cars, but what is the difference between the Y pipe and B pipe? Is there more of a performance gain with one over the other? Do they have different sounds... maybe somthing like the X pipe versus the H pipe.
a ypipe connects the two headers to the catalytic converter. when it joins together it often makes a y shape, hence ypipe. people have gotten performance gains of up to 20 hp at the wheels from this. mostly because the stock one sucks so bad and has to restrictive pre-cats. it will make your exhaust louder.

bpipe is the connection between the cat (actually the extra sensor pipe on 97+) to the axle back exhaust. it give performance gains as well. and a lot of people on the .org get budget ypipe and bpipe and keep the stock muffler. it stays quieter and is low key.

hopes this helped with your decision...
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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stock intake and greddy exhaust....SAFC...bump fuel pressure and get timing
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by markd248
a ypipe connects the two headers to the catalytic converter. when it joins together it often makes a y shape, hence ypipe. people have gotten performance gains of up to 20 hp at the wheels from this. mostly because the stock one sucks so bad and has to restrictive pre-cats. it will make your exhaust louder.

bpipe is the connection between the cat (actually the extra sensor pipe on 97+) to the axle back exhaust. it give performance gains as well. and a lot of people on the .org get budget ypipe and bpipe and keep the stock muffler. it stays quieter and is low key.

hopes this helped with your decision...
Gotta say that no, a lot of people dont do budget y and b with stock muffler. There is a whole thread on the first page for exhaust so go there and see the setups and sound.
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Gotta say that no, a lot of people dont do budget y and b with stock muffler. There is a whole thread on the first page for exhaust so go there and see the setups and sound.
I tried that and found the majority of the links were broken. I did find some nice sounding stuff but it was not indicating the brands used.

That prompted me to create this thread. I am getting a lot of feedback on the cattman setup and the greddy setup. I have seen some nice stuff from greddy performance. I may lean in that direction.

Another noob question. What is a good bang for the buck when adding performance modz other than the exhaust to a maxima? Does the Unorthidox pulley add much? Can I get performance coils? Is there any good performance MAF sensors or Throttle Body's out there?
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You need to optmize your set-up, whatever it may be.
Old Nov 2, 2006 | 01:48 AM
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00-03 maxima muffler fits on 97-99? hmm is there any difference?
does that mean the piping is the same too?
Old Nov 2, 2006 | 04:57 AM
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Cattman is the best brand, others would go with Warpspeed, I myself have a Budget Y pipe
Old Nov 2, 2006 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ganslee
I tried that and found the majority of the links were broken. I did find some nice sounding stuff but it was not indicating the brands used.

That prompted me to create this thread. I am getting a lot of feedback on the cattman setup and the greddy setup. I have seen some nice stuff from greddy performance. I may lean in that direction.

Another noob question. What is a good bang for the buck when adding performance modz other than the exhaust to a maxima? Does the Unorthidox pulley add much? Can I get performance coils? Is there any good performance MAF sensors or Throttle Body's out there?
Underdrive pulley will give a little more power, not much. You can upgrade plugs but you're not looking at a big power boost. No coils, MAF, but you can get a larger TB with an adapter plate (it'll give a little more power with the exhaust on there but not much due to the stock manifold).

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00-03 maxima muffler fits on 97-99? hmm is there any difference?
does that mean the piping is the same too?
5th Gen muffler fits the 4th gen with modification. The pipe needs to be made to connect the muffler to the b pipe. The 5th muffler is a little better and gives a better tone but still stays pretty quiet.
Old Nov 2, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Instead of getting a cat-back, why don't you tune the A/F w/ an AFC in order to take full advantage of the CAI? It will be the same price and you'll get better overall benefits.
Do 4th gens have a mass airflow sensor? Or does it meter incoming air differently?

If it has a MAF sensor, you shouldn't need to retune for installing an intake
Old Nov 2, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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What is the best performing exhaust I can get that does not have the typical ricer sound.
Cattman.

I have the Warpspeed Y, Cattman B and HKS Sport rear section. Absolutely NO raspiness/bee's. The tone is deep and smooth, though it is not too quiet (a bit on the loud side actually). If you want quiet, with an OEM rear section on, the exahust sounds almost stock.
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Originally Posted by BigTDogg
If it has a MAF sensor, you shouldn't need to retune for installing an intake
Yes it does have a MAFs and theoretically, no we shouldn't have to tune.

Look at all the historical A/F curves, garbage if you ask me. So yes, tuning is a must if you want to take full advantage of your personal set-up.


Originally Posted by Cdg2125
No coils, MAF
Actually there are aftermarket coils that are available, but I don't see them providing much gain at all. MAF's aren;t comercially availalbe for our car's but anyone that isn't lazy is allowed to get creative.
Old Nov 2, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ewuzh
Cattman.

I have the Warpspeed Y, Cattman B and HKS Sport rear section. Absolutely NO raspiness/bee's. The tone is deep and smooth, though it is not too quiet (a bit on the loud side actually). If you want quiet, with an OEM rear section on, the exahust sounds almost stock.
Can you post an audio clip of the tone from your exhaust.

Thanks in advanced.
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