Ward

hi guys, these day my maxima has some unusual noise when it cold start, it's sound like "***e...", after it warm for 2-3 minutes the noise gone, so does anyone know what's the problem with it?

wikidminds

could be your starter? but u said it went away after 2-3 minutes. so i doubt the starter. where exactly is it coming from?

Paz1986

Starter squeel. I believe there is a sticky for this. This occurs when the grease inside the started dries up and gets caked up, causing it hard for the starter to turn. Regrease your starter or if its old rebuild it while its being taken apart.

wikidminds

but like he stated....it stops after 2-3 minutes. i personally havent experienced starter squeal for more than 10 seconds. maybe others have had starter sqeal for longer periods of time. i dunno.

Ward

thanks guy, but that noise never come up when the engine was warm, like stop 2-3 hours, it is so weird.

GCOBBLE

Dont know if you change your oil regularly, but if you dont that can cause a weird noise that will go away after the engine warms up.

2da mizzax

iTrader: (4)

oil is too thick. go for some 0w30. recently did an oil change? can also try some auto-rx to clean any build up which will in turn allow better oil flow even during cold starts.

Ward

oil changed 2000km before, maybe i drove too much? about 75miles/day, all city drove.

JWoodstock0617

the type of oil you use...try 10w-30 for winter....5w-30 for summer

2da mizzax

iTrader: (4)

uhh. other way around. its thicker oil for summer. thinner for winter. and alberta can get pretty cold so 0w30 would be a better bet for winter. however, unless it suddenly got cold over the past few days when this noise started, that may not be the problem. a little hard to figure out without actually hearing it.

Ward

it seemed that the starter has problem, this morning when i remote start for several times, it did not start, so i try to start by myself, not start also. i call the service of Alberta motor association, they said the battery is good, maybe the starter was gone.

google9

I have recently tuned up my car, change all 6 spark plug, air filter, fuel filter, drive belt, both left/right cv shaft, sway link bar, knock sensor, rear o2, water pump and oil filter with 5-30, and notice a eeeeee sound immediately after those tuned up. the sounds last about 10 seconds, what could it be? how do i get rid of it or will it go away ?

mayn thanks

Ward

ok guys, the starter has gone, but the noise was remain, my friend told me he think maybe is the timing chain, omg, it's a big problem, maybe cost me thousands of dollar....

Jade92seth05

Sounds like the tensioner and guide. Mine does that now, I recently changed the water pump. I read a bunch of replies on here that it is the timing belt tensioner and guide. I bought the tensioner for 64.00 from www.courtesynissan.com and they even threw in the guide. Im going to try like a nother reply on here said that they did and it went away. I am going to use the new spring from the tensioner in the old one to see if the noise goes away.. If not looks like I will be taking the timing chain cover off and putting the guide in aswell..
There is a clip on here where someone has posted a noise issue.. Might want to find it and listen to it to see if it is the same noise that you are having but almost want to say that it is though... You can look in the service bulletins and they have a write up about the noise and there counter measure is the guide and a tensioner, Which is offset that is why I am going to try just the spring first.. I am going to try that tomorrow and then will reply if it worked or not.

google9

Hi Jade, has you have time to done it yet ? did the noise goes away ?

Jade92seth05

Ok.. I took the new piston,spring, and the little rubber piece out of the new tensioner and put it in the old tensioner body.. I fired it up and man what a relief.. noise went away.. I didnt use the new tensioner as the new tensioner and guide have a different angle to them... I kept the guide just in case..

google9

congrats!

do you have a picture of what the tensioner + guide look like ? I couldnt find it on that website you posted above. do they sell these at autozone ?

is this an easy task to do ?

thanks

pmohr

iTrader: (26)

The new angle prevents the oil drainage from the tensioner that causes cold start noise, i.e. no tension on the primary chain until oil pressure builds.

SSzretter

I am wondering if people have recommendations on how to find part numbers for various items? For example, lets say you have a starting issue like this and want to try replacing the inhibitor relay, how do I know what the part number is? I have the maxima service manual, but it does not seem to have part numbers... Is there some kind of database or something else that lets you type in the letter/number code in the service manual diagram and get a part number? or some other way?

SSzretter

Oh, one more thing, what is the best way to 'locate' items? for example, if in the service manual I see how for example the inhibitor relay is wired in to the starter, how do I quickly and easily locate this part? I know as a general concept the relays are probably in one spot, but I am trying to get a general answer, like if I am looking for the xyz connector, were is it? By the drivers feet? Right side of the hood, etc.? Maybe there is a nice diagram searchable somewhere?

MAXIMUS86

iTrader: (10)

hey guys, i have a 03 max and mine do make a wiered noise when i start too, but its sounds like clinking noise for about a sec or 2 till the rpm drops down to idle. but i doesnt happen all the time, usually when its cold out or in the morning, i let my car warm up all the time and i change oil around 1800 miles, i took it in and they said do a tune up cuz i just reached 60k miles. what do u think?

marvelous88

Yeah like the other guys are saying, regrease the starter and try an oil change with motor flush. Hope I was helpful.

google9

I think there is a program to lookup parts# I cant remember what its called ? (fast start ? I might be wrong) there is a link to download it somewhere in this forum.

SSzretter

Yes, I actually have Nissan Fast, but in the service manual for example it lists an inhibitor relay in a wiring diagram, and next to it is an identifier of E61... I tried putting E61 into the part code and part no fields in Nissan Fast, but no luck... i am trying to make the tie-together between the service manual, and something (Nissan Fast or other) to find actual parts / part numbers...

Jade92seth05

below is a diagram that shows all the parts in the 100k kit. if you look over to the left you can see the timing chain tensioner. I am not at home right now or I would take a pic and post it.
I would say that it is fairly easy to do. I removed one hose on the power steering resivoire then I poured out the fluid. I then stuffed the house to the back of the motor towards the firewall. There is 4 10mm bolts that hold on the timing chain tensioner access cover on. Then there is two more bolts that hold the tensioner in place. It is easier if you unloosen the top bolt first on the tensioner so that it kind of relieves some of the pressure on the piston and guide. Then remove the second bolt being very careful not to drop anything inside the motor.. Then I just used the piston,spring, and the little rubber piece in the old tensioner. I really didnt want to have to tear into the timing chain cover to put the guide in. Alls I can say is that it worked for me and I got the idea from a differnt post on here.. If you search for the water pump replacement guide it shows you pictures of the timing chain tensioner. here is the url for the write up on water pump replacement. look at the tensioner and the access hole. It seems like alot of stuff to do or might seem hard but it really is not that bad...
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=308680 for the waterpump.

Hope it helps...
http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan...ode=A32-TCKITA

SSzretter

What is the best way to test a starter motor? Is it something I can do?

kemmo

I also started getting some cold starter sound problems. If the car has been sitting at least overnite in really cold temps then when I turn the key it is just a click and nothing else. However, if the temps aren't that cold the engine will fire but there will be a short sound after.

Glad I found this post should help get to the bottom of things. Having to post at least 15 messages means that I end up looking for something that didn't necessarily bring me here in the first place!

holymoly

Remember the original poster Ward lives in Edmonton. Winter generally starts there just after Halloween.

00W50 is the only way to go and full synthetic in those winters.

Brrr!!

willard00

iTrader: (1)

i could be wrong, but i dont think our cars have timing chains?

Ward

Hoho, my post was still replied, thanks guys.
I went to see my mechanic, he told me don't worry that noise, because the noise only come when the car is cold start, so if the noise come out when i am driving, i should pay more attension, maybe change timing chain tensioner. And he said i should not pay more money on a old car, just drive it. And these days nothing happened,

the_3d_man

iTrader: (1)

holy crap .... newb fest...
and who uses 0W50?... wtf try 0W30...

and I assume you were just joking willard00
lol

mountain people

I have a similar question. During winter, whenever I start the engine in the morning, it will start and then dies immediately. I'll have to push the pedal down a little so that the needle does not dip below 1500rpm for 3-5 seconds. After that, it's all right. Happens only during the cold season. Any idea why?

SSzretter

I had a idle almost stall issue, there is a thread on that, basically I cleaned by IACV, and replaced my PCV, and made sure I always use super gas, and my idle drop / stall or almost stall issue went away.

Red96MaxSE

Yes, our cars have the timing chains, not belts-- thank god!!! That's a $1,000 repair my friend w/ his Civic just loves every 90k!

Red96MaxSE

...And I also get a noise when I start the Max on cold days-- I'm getting the "dying duck" noise as it has been previously described. Just put a heater in the garage, so I'm not getting it lately!