Found this from an old thread in the 1/4 subforum.

"As soon as I did the 5spd swap I quickly found out how bad wheel hop can be. I took some advice from a friend that had done it and I gave it a try. Get a ratcheting tow strap and hook it from the front of the engine to the lower crossmember. This does not allow the engine to twist as much under hard acceleration which is what causes bad wheel hop. This mod actually works. It did not completely eliminate wheel hop, but neither do poly engine mounts which cause vibrations at idle inside the cabin. I would not believe it if I had not done it myself.
I hooked one hook to the front engine mount where it bolts to the block. Then I hooked the other hook to the large hole in the side of the lower engine crossmember and then tightened it up. It would be better if we had a frame and a solid place to hook the other end but the crossmember is good enough. Has anyone ever done this before?"

What i am wondering if anyone has pictures of this setup on a maxima. I plan on doing this tomorrow but id perfer some pictures so i can get a visual on where it goes. Yes i know its ghetto, but im a broke a$$ student just trying to make it through school and i dont have money to buy poly urathane engine mounts.

Also for those of you who have done it how much of the wheel hop do you think it has eliminated. I have it really bad, it only seems like on certain roads i get it really bad, always on the 1-2 shift when im pushin it, but even putting my foot down in first it gets so bad it makes my cd player skip, i hate it its so bad for the car too.

Thanks
Chris

 

change your tires man and keep on practicing your clutchwork

 

i dont think its a problem with that, because from what ive read its an inert problem that creeps up more often on 5spd then autos. Its quite annoying, even at the track i get no pure spin i get wheel hop which requires me to fully let off the throttle to stop it which in turn kills my run. I am going to lower my tire pressure to 28, it was at 35 for some odd reason usually i never go over 32. But even still with my old tires falken ziex ze-512's did the same thing i cant really compare because when i had those tires i was stock now i have some mods. One time it got that bad i seriously think the wheels got air time. Its so bad for the car too, but its so hard to let off, its like you know you should but by the time you react youve already done it.


Has anyone done this?

 

I NEVER get pure spin, it's either a clean clutch slip or wheel hop death.

Get one on there and snap some pics, how would it deal with the heat?

 

Interesting.... something I can try when the tracks open up again.

 

yeah thats what im wondering, the straps i belive are only made out of like polyester and im not sure how good polyester holds up to heat. Im going to have a look underneath of the car and see where some possible spots to hook it to could be.

Something similar to this, it claims it has 10,000lb capacity, im sure thats more then enough, but the heat is the only thing that worrys me, with the ypipe being right in that general region the heat of the exhaust plus that youd think it could melt. Maybe you could heatwrap the section of the ypipe that is near it to prolong the life of the strap, even at $11.00 each even if it reduces 50% of my wheel hop maybe id be able to launch easier and not worry about killing the tranny.

 

I wouldnt sweat the heat to much. Although I know its much cooler on the front of a bike its pretty common for guys to strap the front of the bike down to help in keeping the front end down using similiar straps in a similiar setup. I had my old CBR strapped all summer and I never had to re-tighten the strap and that includes hours of track time,both 1/4 mile and road course.

 

well im going to have a look tomorrow, had to work on the rear section today so i didnt get a chance to look at the engine. I am going to test it out on the section of road that i always get really bad wheel hop on and report back to see how much it got rid of, if at all any. thanks

 

Wheel hop -

It's a Maxima with a very simple, basic control arm and strut setup. It's not built for making burn outs.

 

burnouts were not my intention of this mod. Because with the e-brake on i can burnout with no wheel hop, only 1 time at mission(mission raceway) i got a tiny bit of wheel hop when i did the burnout (borrowed slicks off freind). The thing is even if i punch it in first 90% of the time i get wheel hop, on the 1-2 shift i get wheel hop, its very annoying, its bad for the tranny and doesnt look too good from the outside.

I went to the local auto parts store, for the one that i believe would work, similar design to ones they use at a dyno except it has hooks on both ends cost 25$. At the moment i dont want to spend 25$ on something that im not sure on how well it would work, I am going to make do with the one i have already, just your typical ratcheting tow strap for holding stuff down. I think the capacity is 400-500lbs, should be enough. The one for 25$ had a 3850lb capacity. The other thing im wondering when i crank this thing down, should i do it untill i see the engine pull down a bit or just do it till the strap is tight?

 

the whole point is to keep the engine from moving.. i would think to strap it down till the engine isn't going to move.. that may wear out your motor mounts faster though. personally, i get some wheel hop on hard take offs, but i spin shifting to second.. i have some really hard tyres though.. they spin pretty easily. going around a corner tonight(quite speedy) i hopped instead of skidding.. kinda caught me off guard.. lol

 

Pics plz... my car hops like mad

 

my car hopped like something crazy during clutch dumps...my rear motor mount was totally destroyed come to find out and my front one is on its way out. the middle piece that the rubber holds in that the bolt goes through was totally ripped off of the rubber. I could pull the middle piece out. maybe check your mounts to see if that is y you get it. I just got some ES inserts. I am going to put them in next week. hopefully they work wonders!

 

You want Jclaw's traction bars. Kthx...

 

But it's a 4 door SPORTS CAR!!!!

Lol.

Dave

 

I disagree. I've gotten some huge smokey burnouts with mine. My wheel hop happens about 50% of the time, and when it does, it's extremely terrible.

 

yeah, i got some massive wheel hop today on a stretch of road i normally never get it on. It was that bad my freind was holding some change in his hand and it shook it out. The strap idea i havent been able to do due to the weather..pouring down with rain, but ive also determined my engine mounts are in poor shape too. Jbars ive also considered too, it would be nice to be able to floor the car in first gear and not get wheel hop, just pure wheelspin or instant hookup.

 

We drive Maximas, this means alot of wheelspin, and instant hookup is non- existant without an extremely modded suspension.

 

I have found the easiest and best way to keep the front end down is using 3/16" aircraft cable connecting the top and bottom of the struts. I have it adjusted so it is just snug sitting in the normal sitting position.

I'll post a pic when I get my camera working.

 

Jime please post this pic asap, this is very important to me!

 

Just thought I would leave my feedback on the ratchet strap idea.

Its 6:30 am, I just installed my new transmission and also installed "the ratchet strap mod". I connected a 500ftlb strap from the hole in the front motor mount and wrapped it around my crossmember. I then proceeded to tightening it until I couldn't pull the lever anymore.

The difference is amazing. As ghetto as some of you may think it is, this killed wheelhop 100% on my 18 x 8.5 MSR 044 w/ Falcon 245 tires. I had wheel hop like crazy before I installed the strap. I did 10 holeshots on the way home to test this setup and I didn't wheelhop once, just clean wheelspin. The mod only costed me $10 also (2pack of blue straps at Autozone).

If you don't like wheelhop, and you don't like puking trannies, get a strap.

-Tyler

ps: I have all stock bushings and motor mounts sitting on KYB + H&R tech springs.

 

boostlogic is that still workin out for you? has anyone else tried this with long term success/lack of "side-effects"?

 

Strange, I've never experienced any wheelhop on my max, even when I just dump the clutch at high revs. I've just always gotten wheelspin.

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