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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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I was jw if this intake is going do actually improve airflow over stock. I am not looking to spend $250 on an intake, mainly because I am just doing it for the sound. Just wondering if anyone knows if it will change the sound or if it is complete bs.

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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Most intakes will give you 3-5 hp(if that)....and most cost a lot because of the name. Which intake is $250 for the Max?? I guess it has been a long time since I looked at Intake prices...either way...why would you just buy one for the sound??
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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Well ive seen Injen intakes go upwards of $250. Even though it is a performance mod, and i know they will only add a few whp, i like the sound of the intake. It its only a $45 piece, it may be worth it.
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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Get it if you want, it's pretty cheap. It sounds louder but gives barley any noticable power. It also looks good in the engine bay.
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Get it if you want, it's pretty cheap. It sounds louder but gives barley any noticable power. It also looks good in the engine bay.
Just like any other intake i would assume. Also, is it a difficult process to swap the intakes?
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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k2motor.com... where i bought mine 50 bucks ... dyno soon but i cant tell u exactly how much it added cuz i have an exhuast leak right now. it was very easy 2 install as long as u kno about cars to some degree... need very basic tools so u shuld have them somewhere around your house ( unless ur doing cold air intake and drilling) i bought a 3 inch holesaw for that one


and to answer ur q... if u just get an intake without the cold air pipe taking it out of the engine bay, a ram air hood, or a heat sheild u will most likeley lose power... if u get cold air a gain of about 5 hp at wheels
pic of it right now( too lazy to drill hole till it warms up a little)

Old Jan 26, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Just like any other intake i would assume. Also, is it a difficult process to swap the intakes?
The particular one you linked is pretty hard considering you have to drill a 3" hole into your fender, but all the other types of intakes are easy as pie to install. If you drive through puddles a lot, I recommend getting a cone filter without the tube b/c they are very loud (sounds good though) and takes 10 min. to install. I say no pipe b/c the stock midpipe is better.
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So if i simply just put a cone filter onto the car will I be loosing and horsepower? Also will it make the same sound as any other intake if i just put on the cone filter like the one below?

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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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No by simply adding a cone u will probably lose hp seing as u have no seperation between the hot engine bay and the intake... if u want to gain hp and get a better sound dont buy an intake( unless its cold air) just do a gab(ghetto air box)
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Isn't the VQ intake loud enough already? It's a lot louder than Honda and Toyota intakes. And most cheap intakes will lose power, as baryrr explains above.
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Isn't the VQ intake loud enough already? It's a lot louder than Honda and Toyota intakes. And most cheap intakes will lose power, as baryrr explains above.
it doesnt matter how expensive or what brand it is.. unless it takes the cone away form the engine bay heat u will not gain hp... an engine bay reaches temps of 500* and every 30 * drop gains 1% power or soemthing like that.. my number may be way off but u get the idea... cold air intake works by letting more air into the cylinders because cold air molecules are smaller then warm ones alowing more air and due to more air more fuel = more hp



and no my friends prelude stock is louder then mine with an aftermarket intake LOL
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Since im not the most mechanically inclined person, ill prob just replace the air filter and leave everything stock. There is no point in wasting money on something that will make me loose hp (ie. cone filter). The stock intake isnt bad on the Max, but i think it has some potenital...
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Yeah, you will def. lose power with a cone intake, it didn't bother me b/c I don't go racing, I did it for the sound and for some looks in the engine bay. It's best that you keep the intake stock if you want the torque to stay that way.
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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I bought one of those ebay intakes. THey are trash, I did the short ram intake and I lost so much low end power, it was crazy. I almost got into accidents because of lack of power. When I leave my neighborhood, its a very busy road, and you can hardly see cars coming up the hill. You have to gun it across not to be hit, I had a few near misses because of that short ram filter crapping out my low RPM. There was power > 70mph though.
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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I bought one of those ebay intakes. THey are trash, I did the short ram intake and I lost so much low end power, it was crazy. I almost got into accidents because of lack of power. When I leave my neighborhood, its a very busy road, and you can hardly see cars coming up the hill. You have to gun it across not to be hit, I had a few near misses because of that short ram filter crapping out my low RPM. There was power > 70mph though.
Short Ram is better at higher speeds and recommended more for a manual then a automatic, from what i learn on this site is that short ram is effiecient on top end as cold air intakes are more efficient in low and midrange
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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i have a manual with ram air right now( as u can in pic above) i notice the power from 3000-6000 rpm but never noticed a low end loss.... but there probably is minor loss seing as i never gun it of the line cuz my **** tires wont stick anyways LOL
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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i have a manual with ram air right now( as u can in pic above) i notice the power from 3000-6000 rpm but never noticed a low end loss.... but there probably is minor loss seing as i never gun it of the line cuz my **** tires wont stick anyways LOL
Haha especially with all the f**king sand salt on the roads right now...thanks guys, sounds like im gonna stick with the stock setup and just get a new paper filter. Thanks for the feedback.
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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I can't believe that this was posted yet again....how many threads can be made on the same intake question?
Short Ram intake (HAI)=High End gain,Low End Lose
CAI (routed out of the engine bay to the fender well)=Low Mid End Gain (some have lost a little top end)

Thats it. Adding a cone instead of the stock box creates a HAI since the filter is no longer inclosed in the box that brings in cooler air. Both HAI and CAI will make the engine bay louder and hence gives your car a deeper/louder sound. So adding just a cone will lose and gain power. Just at different points on the hp range.

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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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what about a cold air (3 inch pipe) with a 6 inch velocity stack and the k and n filter that goes with it. i heard for 6 cylinders any 3 inch cold air pipe with that stack (bp inatives..something like that) and the k and n filter thats made for it can give you 4-5 wheel horsepower, havent tried it or heard anything like that on a maxima but for other 6 cylinders thats the case, you might want to try that for performence and sound, its what iim doing and it would only run you about 140
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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No intake is going to give you 4-5 hp
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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if you were crazy enough to "translate" the mass air sensor, im pretty sure you'll feel some gains. but than again, i live in minnesota, where the weather right now is -15 Farenheit(spelling)...so HAI or CAI, im getting cold whenever on the highway or crusing
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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anybody think is this worth it buying this intake just for the piping and replacing the filter with a k&n filter i dont mine drilling the hole into the fender?

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Old Jan 28, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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As long as the piping goes through the fender its fine. I don't know why everyone spends so much on the piping on ebay. You can just get piping from the auto store and make it go into the fender after the maf. Cheaper since you're going to spend all the $$ for the ebay parts then $40 or so for the K&n....each his own I guess
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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price its no issue but do u think this piping goes trough the fender?
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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dont wast ur money do a ghetto intake mod check the stickies it sounds great!
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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yeah the ghetto intake sucks. Just creates sound and kills our performance. Go buy piping from the auto store and make it go through the fender. You can get more than you need for the price of that ebay ****.
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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might as well get the autostore piping thanx
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cdg2125
I can't believe that this was posted yet again....how many threads can be made on the same intake question?
Short Ram intake (HAI)=High End gain,Low End Lose
CAI (routed out of the engine bay to the fender well)=Low Mid End Gain (some have lost a little top end)

Thats it. Adding a cone instead of the stock box creates a HAI since the filter is no longer inclosed in the box that brings in cooler air. Both HAI and CAI will make the engine bay louder and hence gives your car a deeper/louder sound. So adding just a cone will lose and gain power. Just at different points on the hp range.



Clean that engine bay!
cleaning then engine bay when its -10*c out is pointless... :P

when i paint the spark plug cover ill clean it all out
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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As long as the piping goes through the fender its fine. I don't know why everyone spends so much on the piping on ebay. You can just get piping from the auto store and make it go into the fender after the maf. Cheaper since you're going to spend all the $$ for the ebay parts then $40 or so for the K&n....each his own I guess
I got my piping from ebay and just changed my filter to a K&N. And i have to say its pretty good. Still hear my intake taking in all that air from the inside of my max.
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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I'm only asking this cause I'm nt so mechanically inclined. if the short ram intake causes a low end loss and the CAI cause a loss at top end is it nt better to invest that money on a y-pipe. an as for the air intake u just stick with the stock ? cause personally if I'm getting myself and intake system, I dnt think I'd like to loss power either top nor bottom or is their an intake that takes care of that problem??
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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cold air intake shuldn't give u loss of power... because if so whats the reason???? the reason u lose in a simple cone is engine heat makes intake air warm/hot... and intake alone wont do to much without a good exhaust setup as well because sure taking in more air is great.. but if u cant exhaust it its useless
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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I got my piping from ebay and just changed my filter to a K&N. And i have to say its pretty good. Still hear my intake taking in all that air from the inside of my max.
That;s great. A lot of guys get it from ebay. But the point is if you don't get the actual k&n one on ebay you're really wasting money. Say $40 for the ebay part. Then another $40 for the k&n new filter. Around $80. Compare that to $7 per piece roughly at autozone for piping. About three pieces is $21 plus $40 for a k&n. So $61 to $80. Yeah not a huge difference but its fine. It also depends what you are doing. If you're not keeping the resonator just get the ebay and k&n. It's a money call.

The point about CAI is that some have reported some lose up top. Nothing that you would really know. Many of them are butt dyno's and arn't correct. Of course a y pipe is a better investment any day. But both together gives a better sound. Changing to a CAI isn't going to give a big jump anyway so an AF exhaust isn't really necessary.
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 06:58 AM
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thanks garyrr and cgd2125. I was just lookin thru the stickies and read on the intakes and it seems like the hybrid intakes like the Frankencar intake r more popular(just my observation correct me if I'm wrong) and it is also good for mid-range driving which I believe most of us do. now r these hybrid intakes also Hot/warm Air intakes ??
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yes....any intake that has an open filter in the engine bay is a HAI. It's onyl getting the hot air inside the engine bay. Short rams are more popular but they are not better. Most driving would be in low and mid range. HAI will take away a noticable amount of low end and you'll gain a little mid range. It's all preference but I hate having a short ram. Can't wait to buy some piping from autozone. Should cost me under $20 for my CAI.
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cdg2125 u have put everything in perspective for me. sucking in hot/warm air doesn't sound too good to me. now I understand the two intakes betta. good lookin' out
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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I got my intake from ebay I agree can't feel any difference in power but the sound is still there and you can hear the intake taking in air flow.
Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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Well as I said before, you're using a butt dyno so you're not going to know that you're actually losing power. If you have the actual CAI style then you did gain power and if you have a short ram ebay one then you lost power.
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im chaging from hai to cold air within a week... so ill tell u if there is much diff i feel... but personaly i dont think ill feel a diff on low end without better tires and i don realy push it to high end other then 1st and 2nd gear cuz by then im already 20 over the limit LOL
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are there any CAIs available that don't need cutting into the fender, b/c I'm trying to avoid that completely ?? thanks
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