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Old 07-02-2007, 01:15 PM
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Who tracks their Max?

I use my maxima as a daily driver. I never exactly thought of it as a fast car in the corners and it always seemed too heavy to drag. I still drive it really fast, it likes to understeer quite a bit. Anyone have proof that our cars are good on the twisties?
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have a look around here: Autocrossing and Road Course Racing
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on stock struts and springs? hell no. but that can be fixed with some well placed upgrades ;-)
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Ive seen a few youtube videos and seen some of the posts in the autox section but nothing screams "this is a track car" Altho a rear mount turbo would be sexy albeit not good for my daily driving use.
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This car screams....GROCERY GETTER....

But most on here have turned down that noise and turned up the sportyness (word?) a bit....it does take some deeper pockets but this car can be a very fun drag/autocross car with the right, well placed mods anyway. .
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Originally Posted by mazzivart
This car screams....GROCERY GETTER....

But most on here have turned down that noise and turned up the sportyness (word?) a bit....it does take some deeper pockets but this car can be a very fun drag/autocross car with the right, well placed mods anyway. .

Yup - I agree !
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IMO, a roadcoarse track is much better suited to our cars than either drag or autocross. Even stripped down a 2500lb Max is too heavy and flexes too much for winning autocross. Although many here have proven their speed on the drag anybody using a smaller chassis and RWD should own us given a similar power motor. Over the years Cheston, Matt, Deus, etc. have proven the car can be a contender even on a budget but nobody's put SERIOUS funding behind full development. Yes, I'm talking out of my a$$ as I've yet to actually track mine but hey..
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mazzivart
This car screams....GROCERY GETTER....

But most on here have turned down that noise and turned up the sportyness (word?) a bit....it does take some deeper pockets but this car can be a very fun drag/autocross car with the right, well placed mods anyway. .
agreed, you can hold your own at the strip or track then ride home with your a/c, heated leather seats, sun roof with room for 3 of your friends

not alot cars can do this
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:17 PM
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i autocross mine reguarly....i do very well...i place 2nd in d-stock or sts most events i enter...but ive been autocrossing for years now (since i was 16, im 21 now)...so i'd like to think i know a thing or 2 about it...

driver > car. bottom line.
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Originally Posted by BEJAY1
Onobody's put SERIOUS funding behind full development.
Andi "Boostaholic" Baritchi was an advanced roadcourse racer back in the day. He's moved onto much more powerful machines these days tho.
http://www.boostaholic.com/

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Old 07-03-2007, 06:05 AM
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hmm. I never really cared much about heated leather seats. My track car is completely stripped with a cage so comfort isnt what its for. I drive my max to and from places and my track car is strictly for the track. Granted, more pep in the max would be nice.

I dont know what I want to do with my max now. My initial thought was to just drive it into the ground but you guys have inspired me. Now... what to do what to do.
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:34 AM
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Turn it into a drag car... lol

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Old 07-03-2007, 06:40 AM
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Andy did nothing but the basic Max bolt-on's back then.
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Originally Posted by BEJAY1
Although many here have proven their speed on the drag anybody using a smaller chassis and RWD should own us given a similar power motor.

Ain't so - even the factory-modded AWD turbos have fallen to a Maxima. A stock-weight Maxima.
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
Ain't so - even the factory-modded AWD turbos have fallen to a Maxima. A stock-weight Maxima.
AWD isnt the best for drag regardless. Unless you have huge power, your engine it split between 4 wheels. I drive around my fiance's impreza and my max is tons faster but they have similar power. AWD accelerates out of corners much better tho. Man that subaru loves corners.
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Originally Posted by protomor
AWD isnt the best for drag regardless. Unless you have huge power, your engine it split between 4 wheels. I drive around my fiance's impreza and my max is tons faster but they have similar power. AWD accelerates out of corners much better tho. Man that subaru loves corners.

similar power????? hope its a 2.5 rs ur talkin about. they put out 165 hp, 2.0 turbo puts out 227, at least for 02 model

it all depends on driver to. hell ive beaten wrxs and sti's cause the drivers didn't know how to drive an awd car.

u can make the max into a pretty good track car.
just strip everything out except the driver seat and steering wheel, hoosier tires, turbo, suspension work, and ur set
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Old 07-03-2007, 08:31 AM
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Err ok well the subbie I drive is the 165hp version. But it pulls very weak for being >300 lbs less (subie is about 2700 while the max is 3000).
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Originally Posted by protomor
Err ok well the subbie I drive is the 165hp version. But it pulls very weak for being >300 lbs less (subie is about 2700 while the max is 3000).

well there only four cylinders, what'd u expect?
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Old 07-03-2007, 11:44 AM
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IMO 4 cyl > V6
Ever seen a 240sx?
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Originally Posted by protomor
IMO 4 cyl > V6
Ever seen a 240sx?

whats a 240sx?


yes ive seen one. after u boost them or get an srd20det, rb20det, rb25 swap
thenn there fast
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Originally Posted by protomor
IMO 4 cyl > V6
Ever seen a 240sx?
I am pretty sure EVERYONE on this site knows what a 240 is....

what do you think most people on this site are stupid????

Anyway a stock 5 speed max is faster than a stock NA 5 speed 240 and a NA 5 speed 300.
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Originally Posted by BEJAY1
Andy did nothing but the basic Max bolt-on's back then.
Yup, which was awesome. Shows what an incredible driver he was. The current website's a stripped down ver that doesn't speak of the races he entered and won w/the Max.
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ThurzNite
Yup, which was awesome. Shows what an incredible driver he was. The current website's a stripped down ver that doesn't speak of the races he entered and won w/the Max.
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Didn't mean any offense to his talent; only that the A32 and similar might be potent with more chassis bracing, susp geometry changes, etc. Please PM me any links or series he was involved in if you got em. Might come in handy for me...
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Originally Posted by protomor
IMO 4 cyl > V6
Ever seen a 240sx?

one time i did.
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Im not saying what cars faster than what. I have seen much more potential pulled from a 4 cyl than an V6. V engines tend not to like boost as much and the 4 cyl is lighter.

I still think a stock 240sx would be faster than our gen max. *shrugs*
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Originally Posted by protomor
Im not saying what cars faster than what. I have seen much more potential pulled from a 4 cyl than an V6. V engines tend not to like boost as much and the 4 cyl is lighter.

I still think a stock 240sx would be faster than our gen max. *shrugs*
A. There are not many high high HP maxes out there B.C there just isnt the stonger internal market place for us.....the 3.0 esspecially. The 3.5 has a lot like cams and such. I think 450 WPH is pretty damn good with only having upgraded fuel system and stock internals.

B. Engine weight doesnt always have much of an effect when the car still weights 100 lbs less. the 240 weights in at 2750 and the 4th gen max is at about 2900 being longer and has two more doors.......

You need to research a little by donating and using the search function, then you should ask more pertinate questions rather than asking if people go to tracks on a website dedicated to Maxima performance.....

Ok I am off the
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Despite the maxima's looks it can be made into a good handling car if not one of the best. It's one of the lightest V6 cars on the road not to mention it's 4 door. The rear beam as bad as it is for ride actually gives the rear wheels great stability in non-bumpy turns. And the steering has great feedback almost as if there is no power steering at all.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:20 PM
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I've tracked every car I've owned at one time or another, when the track car is down the daily driver is a sub.
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Ask Spaniard. He does several HPDE's. He's in the Cali area.
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Originally Posted by mazzivart
You need to research a little by donating and using the search function, then you should ask more pertinate questions rather than asking if people go to tracks on a website dedicated to Maxima performance.....
Forgive me for not blindly donating before fully trying out a website. Ive only been on this forum for 3 days and so far there arent many hospitable people.

I dont want to track my max but some boost in performance would be nice. I was simply curious who took their car from daily driver to track only. So far I have seen none.
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Originally Posted by protomor
Forgive me for not blindly donating before fully trying out a website. Ive only been on this forum for 3 days and so far there arent many hospitable people.

I dont want to track my max but some boost in performance would be nice. I was simply curious who took their car from daily driver to track only. So far I have seen none.
Are you asking who uses their daily driver on the track? Or are you asking if someone uses their car as a trailer queen dedicated racer?

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When I get enough cash I'll be tracking my car. All I need is some subframe connectors, decent brakes and track wheels/tires and I'll be set. Until then, OEM brakes FTMFL. :\
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:24 AM
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back when my car ran, I tracked/autoXed it regularly.



but it's sleeping right now.
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I wanted to know both. But I was more interested in those who made their car track only. Who here has ripped out the AC because its extra weight?
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Originally Posted by protomor
Im not saying what cars faster than what. I have seen much more potential pulled from a 4 cyl than an V6. V engines tend not to like boost as much and the 4 cyl is lighter.

I still think a stock 240sx would be faster than our gen max. *shrugs*


The VQ30 and 35 are open deck aluminum block engines with tiny little toothpick rods and ring lands as thick as a piece of paper, and high compression. You're confusing these facts with the cylinder layout of the engine having anything to do with it.

The KA24DE and the VQ have almost identical weights - they are both around 305-310lbs with the intake manifold but with no accessories, pullies, exhaust manifolds, etc.

A stock 240SX is much slower in straight line racing than a 4th gen maxima is. You put the same driver in both cars and the 240 is going to get ripped in a drag race even with it's RWD launch advantage.

There are some guys on here who have removed the AC for weight - not sure how much it weighed but I know some guys have listed the weights of all the components they've removed from their car. Krismax surely knows what it weighs.

I used to get a bunch of seat time in my maxima back in the day on road courses. I've run Gingerman and Grattan many times, Waterford Hills once - I sort of got away from that in more recent years but I'm trying to set my car back up to be able to do it again while retaining good street manners.
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Yeah ok

Originally Posted by protomor
Im not saying what cars faster than what. I have seen much more potential pulled from a 4 cyl than an V6. V engines tend not to like boost as much and the 4 cyl is lighter.

I still think a stock 240sx would be faster than our gen max. *shrugs*
For the record I respect a 4cyl just not as much as you do.lol
If you said a sentra spec V I would understand buttt.
My friend has a stock 240. The 240 cant stick with my 4th gens.
I ran my auto & 5spd against them when I was stock.
They are no comp especially after 80mph.
As my teachers said
"There is no replacement for displacement"
I've seen avengers wooop on them (possibly drivers error)
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I've taken my daily driver to legal/organized and unorganized/impromptu races.
Drag
Autocross
Roadcoarse
Drifting
Time attack
Chase attack

I'm waiting for the next Gymkhana to come through my area.

I'd say don't worry too much about the car, maximize driver skill first. At least driver skill is transferable to your next car (or any car), and lasts a lifetime. Besides, most events will place your car against comparable cars.

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