Is a an Eclipse GSX rice? If so, what makes it rice? Im more anti-hon-duh than most people I know. Im 19 and have had this car for 3 months. Befor this maxima I had an '85 SE 5-speed. Im not dissing the max, I love them. They are just not as fast as I want my car to be.

Kirk

 

It looks as though you spent a lot of money on your car, and youre gonna get rid of it after 3 months?

 

Yes, and Yes.

Kirk

 

Well, if you can afford it then more power to you. Just dont get an eclipse. Go for the displacement and get a Vette!

 

No chevy's for me thanks. If I were to pay that much I'd import a Skyline. Got my eye on a TSI for less than I can sell my max for and its running 13.4's at 6000 feet. The mods are doing fine because Im selling them off. Selling the SC helped out a lot too. $2000 profit is always a good thing.

Kirk

P.S.Wish I had bought more than 1 SC.

 

Oh but you MUST get a vette. It will break down just as often as an eclipse, and it can go faster. Yeah skylines are the sh*t but it would be a lot easier to just buy an american car. Anyway, its your choice not mine. Just my 2 cents

 

I really dont know why everyone thinks I'll have the hood up every 30 miles. My uncle has a '94 GS eclipse and has only had to do routine matanence to it. Some max's are crap too, it just depends on if you get a lemon or not.

Kirk

 

Yeah but with the eclipse there is a lot of strain on that little in-line 4. Its known that they arent the most dependble cars in the world. But anyway, its your choice so if thats what you want then get it. YOu dont have to listen to me.

 

I appreciate everyone giving me advise. I think I will buck the system though and buy the Eclipse/Talon.

Kirk

 

hey fellas lets just let kirky learn the hard way . if he wants the eclipse thats what daddy will get him . then he will be cool at school and popular and stuff . this is just a kid with no class just like the eclipse. hopefully with time he will see.

p.s. why is he even talking on the maxima forum still , he should be with the rest of the young girls on a eclipse site or something .

 

Kirk-

Goodluck with the TSi. Remember that turbos aren't near as affected by altitude as a NA car is. Since a turbo makes it's own atmosphere, the only limiting factor is O2 density. For every 1000', you can expect ~5% loss in power in a NA car. A turbo car loses ~1%. I know of a few WRXs running low 13s at 4500' with just the basic mods (no turbo upgrade).

I too have been bitten by the "turbo bug". I can't decide if I want to trade my Maxima in on a WRX next year or keep the Maxima and get a 87 Buick Grand National. I was looking in Autotrader and there are ~95 87 Grand Nationals for sale. Nearly all of them are mint and have 50K-90K miles and are going for ~$9500-13000. If you want to go fast for cheap and have the ultimate muscle car of the past 20 years, this is it. 12s are just a couple mods ($1000) away. The best thing is a guy that owns a Regal Turbo, two Grand Nationals, and a 20th Ann. TA (Grand National engine), lives up the street from my parents.


Dave

 

My name is capitalized. Its Kirk not "kirk" nor "kirky". "Daddy" isnt buying $hit, this is on me. Do you think I go to high school? dont be so presumptious. You say I have no class huh? Well, I do know that at the beginning of each sentence you need to capitalize the first letter. I also have enough class not to diss you back. You dont want to get into a conversation on class that you know you will lose. How many eclipse drivers do you know? I see more women driving maximas than I do driving eclipses. When I get mine I'll drive to where ever you are and race, if you have the ***** for it. I still post here because I can. I have knowledge about the max and will share it.

If you dont like DSM, thats fine. If you want to flame me, thats fine too. You need to do them properly though, and get your facts straight before making an *** of yourself again.

Kirk

P.S.Did you notice the capitalization?

 

ok how about looking at it like this.

maxima - ride comfort, space, reliability(in MOST situations)

eclipse - more speed potential, looks(i guess?), and...well, that's all i can think of.

note, i still think the maxima has more class and outshines the eclipse in a lot of ways. but if you are going for speed, then yea, the eclipse has way more mod potential. but that's just cause it's TUNED to be a sports car, more than the max, from stock. and so, more people buy eclipses for speed, except for all the little girls that ask daddy and mommy for the most basic crappy eclipse because they like the look. but that's not you, so disregard that sentence.

so basically, buy the maxima for class, buy the eclipse for speed, if you have the money.

 

Preach on! That is what I've been saying. I do not think the max is a bad car, its just not what Im looking for right now. Im glad someone people got my point.

Oh...and the eclipse will have a louder sound system if you are into bass competitions(like me) than the max will because it is a hatchback.

Kirk

 

well i used to own a 93 gs .and guess what? i dont give a f!!! about capitalizing your name or anything else in my replys. as for the 'class' thing i apologize, i was just kinda angry last night.
just so you can mabey understand the rudeness i displayed previosly i will tell you that i am extremely pro nissan , i dont think you can get more for your money anywhere else . my family has owned many of them through the years ,12 to be exact,never have they dissapointed.
1. 82 max wagon (dad)
2. 83 max sedan (mother then brother)
3. 84 z (bro)
4. 84 z anniversery turbo (bro)
5. 86 z (me)
6. 87 z turbo (mom)
7. 94 max se (dad)
8. 96 max gxe 5spd (me)
9. 96 max gxe (mom)
10. 97 altima (bro)
11. 01 max se (dad)
12. 01 max special edition (bro)

once again i appologize but you will see how a mitsubishi is just not as well engineered as a nissan,honda,toyota etc. (god i hate saying anything good about hondas or toyotas)

 

Im pro Nissan too. My first car was an '85 max SE 5-speed. Loved that baby...then 3 months ago my dad gave me his '95 GXE auto....well it has 152000 miles and is loosing compression and I want something FAST to replace it. If I could, I would get a '95 300Z TT. But I cant so Im looking at the eclipse/talon. Dont get me wrong, I love nissan, but my max just cant do what I want it to.

Kirk

 

Have you not sold your car yet>??

 

Im too lazy to read all the posts so Im just going to state my opinion.

When I was searching for a car, eclipses were near the top of my list, and I wasnt even considering a maxima (big grandpa sedan). While reading up on eclipses for months, I found out that the all-wheel drive system is big $$$ to repair if its damaged, and their engines are absolute crap. I know many people who own them and they all regret buying one. Mitsubishi is the worst Japanese production car company.

Now, as for the Maxima...well if you take one for a test drive, the car speaks for itself. I would never have stumbled upon my max if I hadnt went to look at a autocrapatic 240sx (would have bought that if it was a 5spd...im glad it wasnt!!) at the same dealership. The 3.0L Nissan V6 is also one of the best engines in the world.

Anyways its your choice but if you decide on an eclipse, dont say I didnt warn you.

 

Wow Kirk, your taking alot of heat on here. Guys he is choosing to go with another car. I am sure he has seen plenty on reliabuility etc but wants to go for the Eclipse. I know this is a Maxima Sight and all and it was to be expected but why really gang up on him? He was a great help on the board here for a while adn I hope he continues to stay around. It is not just the car but the people who make this board fun and intresting. Lets all take it easy for a minute and help the original kid who asked the question with the pro's and cons but lets do it reasonably and not try to just pressure or bully someone into the choice we had made.

SuDZ

 

Aint that the truth....

 

I myself have 2 maximas and no one can tell me I am copying other peoples' ideas. I love eclipeses but their like a belly button, everyones got one.

 

there ya go kirk , now i really feel bad . you should just wait it out and get the z man . i guarantee you will be glad you did .
please tell me how you get a eclipse turbo to run 11s.and be honest and tell me how long you think its going to be able to handle that kinda acceleration on any kind of normal use.

 

NZ - not sold yet, but there is a buyer I will meet with on the 6th.

Sudz - thanks bro, I didnt even start this thread and Im the one taking the heat. I will continue to post here as I have gained much knowledge in the past 3 months of ownership.

Everyone seems to think that Im "anti-Nissan" or something. I love nissans. I have only owned nissans in my life thus far. My brother has never owned another brand of car. My dad has owned 5 or 6 of them. I just want what the MAXIMA cannot offer. I want a 10 second car that is street legal. I want a hatch back. I know that the 300Z offers these but my friend has one and he hates it. His is a '93. He has said just about everything about his Z that you guysa have said about the eclipse/talon. If the car winds up sucking, I'll sell the ***** and buy a better one. If it doesnt then I'll be happy. Either way I will have a faster car than 99% of the people on this site, and that is what I really want. Flame on if you must. Give more info if you can. But keep in mind that I will sell the max and buy a faster car.

Kirk

 

He's just saying he wants a faster car, yes our Maximas are quick and the VQ is a work of art, but it's no hot rod.

 

Especially when you start to loose compression

 

Dont worry Kirk, I too have been on the receiving side of the flame thrower. Anyway I'm not sellin my car, cause I too have another instrument thats 99.9% faster then most cars here and I'd say 95% faster then most cars on the road, my 2 wheeled 4 cylinder Honda! I also am not sellin my car cause I cant afford to take the hit on the depreciation.

 

How can you tell?

 

It's odd, now that I'm looking at both these cars- I see them both everywhere! [Granted, the Diamond Stars are much more plentiful] I really don't like the 89-94 eclipse body styles, but tend to see those more. I also don't like 1st/2nd/3rd gen Maxima's too much.

What it really comes down to, [like you've all been saying], is quality or speed. Price is also a factor. The Maxima will probably cost more [buying it, not maintaining it] the DSM sounds like it will cost a lot more to maintain.

I saw both an Eclipse and a Maxima at the local street races the other day, the Eclipse [GSX] was damn fast. Never got to see the Maxima race, looked pretty sweet though.

Thank you all, very much.
James

P.s. A guy drove / owned the Eclipse at the street race.

 

With all my intake/exhaust work AND my VB upgrade I got walked by my friend with stillen intake, cattman y, stock cat, and i think greddy cat-back. He has a gle and it is heavier than my gxe. we launched about the same...he just kept waking me until about 75 where my nose was at his tail. With my mods and the vb he sould have been the one to loose and by several carlengths. I have not had a compression test so that I can claim when I sell it that I didnt know the engine was bad...'cuz I dont know it is for sure.

Kirk

 

After striping your mods down for sale how much did you get for them versus what you paid for them?

SuDZ

 

That in my opinion is the whole point of the site. Glad to see you will be sticking around.

SuDZ

 

Thanks bro!

I will loose about $300 total on all the parts as they are d*mn close to brand new.

Kirk