looking at a 99 SE...have questions for org
10-12-2007, 10:06 AM
#1
looking at a 99 SE...have questions for org
looking at a 99 SE black on black leather bose 5 speed but has 175K a little high on the miles what is a fair price to see if I am in the range also I have questions for org I remember isnt there some problems with mods for the 99 SE model I forgot what they are let me know
thanks jl
thanks jl
10-12-2007, 10:41 AM
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how much?
and yea the miles is pushing it. but if the car is pristine and passes an exhaust/suspension/tranny inspection then go for it. i almost bought a 99SE with 165k for 3700 bux. everything seemed to be in good-working-order and then i discovered that the moron had cut the check engine light to make it not show. even though the car seemed to run and drive well, i refused to own a car that had been tampered with like that.
and yea the miles is pushing it. but if the car is pristine and passes an exhaust/suspension/tranny inspection then go for it. i almost bought a 99SE with 165k for 3700 bux. everything seemed to be in good-working-order and then i discovered that the moron had cut the check engine light to make it not show. even though the car seemed to run and drive well, i refused to own a car that had been tampered with like that.
10-12-2007, 11:51 AM
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original owner with service records? accident/ body work history? if it's a well maintained car, don't let the miles scare you. A little time, attention, and new parts will make her perfect.
if you end up buying, change all the fluids...
if you end up buying, change all the fluids...
10-12-2007, 11:53 AM
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but we still dont know how much the owner is asking. and yea we dont know much about the car itself, but either way i think 3k is a little lowball. if you offer 3 be flexible up to like 3500.
10-12-2007, 03:20 PM
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99's have coil pack problems and many users have had problems with NATS, requiring a tow to the dealer. That's about the only thing that sets them apart from '95-98 with their usual problems, IIRC.
10-13-2007, 07:01 AM
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Hey, I've been offered a 99 SEL Dark Green, 5spd no limited slip, 83,000 miles, sunroof, interior is mint, no leather, Bose. car won't start-up. Previous owner said car was surging during normal driving. He took it to a mechanic who checked the timing chain not sure if he removed it or not. They injectors were taken out and cleaned. Car started, but ran rough. It backfired very loudly and shut off. Car hasn't started since. He's asking $1500. Plus he will throw in a complete motor from a 98 Max along with the ECU. I have a 98 SE 5spd. If anything it becomes a parts car. What are my options here. I'm gonna jump on this deal right away.
10-13-2007, 08:17 AM
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Hey, I've been offered a 99 SEL Dark Green, 5spd no limited slip, 83,000 miles, sunroof, interior is mint, no leather, Bose. car won't start-up. Previous owner said car was surging during normal driving. He took it to a mechanic who checked the timing chain not sure if he removed it or not. They injectors were taken out and cleaned. Car started, but ran rough. It backfired very loudly and shut off. Car hasn't started since. He's asking $1500. Plus he will throw in a complete motor from a 98 Max along with the ECU. I have a 98 SE 5spd. If anything it becomes a parts car. What are my options here. I'm gonna jump on this deal right away.
10-13-2007, 09:22 AM
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Car is currently missing all the coil packs. So I was gonna buy them anyway. I was hoping it's the coil packs. Thanks I'm gonna go ahead and buy it. The guy is in a hurry to sell it. Car is being left out in a field because he has no space for it in his condo.
10-13-2007, 03:26 PM
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FTR, Regardless of mileage I wouldn't buy a 5-speed without bringing a jack with me to take a look at the dif bearings, they just fail way to much, best way if you don't know how to feel for it even with the axle in is to pull axle since the axle will always have a little play in it anyways, or just discern between the play in the axle and differential play (shouldn't be any, seal shouldn't be leaking either)
$1500 one---- JUMP ON THAT!! And wave $1k in his face
Other one, check tranny, offer accordingly, anywhere from $2500-$3750 depending on trans and overall condition. I'd take a high mileage '99 over a low mileage '95 on any car any day.
$1500 one---- JUMP ON THAT!! And wave $1k in his face
Other one, check tranny, offer accordingly, anywhere from $2500-$3750 depending on trans and overall condition. I'd take a high mileage '99 over a low mileage '95 on any car any day.
10-14-2007, 07:50 AM
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KRRZ350:
Why would you take a high mileage 99 over a low mileage 95 any day? That sounds ridiculous to me.
I have a mint one-owner 95SE, 5-speed, with 70,500 original mostly highway miles on it.
Anyone who would take a 99 with 175k on it, with its related coil pack problems should have their head examined! The mileage is way too high for a 99.
Why would you take a high mileage 99 over a low mileage 95 any day? That sounds ridiculous to me.
I have a mint one-owner 95SE, 5-speed, with 70,500 original mostly highway miles on it.
Anyone who would take a 99 with 175k on it, with its related coil pack problems should have their head examined! The mileage is way too high for a 99.
10-14-2007, 08:58 AM
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Because New Jersey weather will destroy a car in a single winter. better to not have as many winters impacting the car. that means 4 extra years of road salting eating away at everything.
i'd take the 99 over the 95 with low miles, beacuse mileage isn't indicative of everything. and the 95 has a large chance of differnetial bearing failure whereas i believe the problem was corrected on the 99's. the problem was most prevelant on the 95-97, occassional 98's, and almost eliminated in 99.
i've had a 95 with 130k miles, and driven my friends 99 with 168k miles. both were taking care of by the original owner, just that the 99 felt MUCH newer. my two cents. both were 5speeds.
i've also driven a 95 with 53k miles a few years ago, and driven my friend's highmileage 97 as well. the 97 felt better. just my examples. exception to every rule, but htat's my experience
i'd take the 99 over the 95 with low miles, beacuse mileage isn't indicative of everything. and the 95 has a large chance of differnetial bearing failure whereas i believe the problem was corrected on the 99's. the problem was most prevelant on the 95-97, occassional 98's, and almost eliminated in 99.
i've had a 95 with 130k miles, and driven my friends 99 with 168k miles. both were taking care of by the original owner, just that the 99 felt MUCH newer. my two cents. both were 5speeds.
i've also driven a 95 with 53k miles a few years ago, and driven my friend's highmileage 97 as well. the 97 felt better. just my examples. exception to every rule, but htat's my experience
KRRZ350:
Why would you take a high mileage 99 over a low mileage 95 any day? That sounds ridiculous to me.
I have a mint one-owner 95SE, 5-speed, with 70,500 original mostly highway miles on it.
Anyone who would take a 99 with 175k on it, with its related coil pack problems should have their head examined! The mileage is way too high for a 99.
Why would you take a high mileage 99 over a low mileage 95 any day? That sounds ridiculous to me.
I have a mint one-owner 95SE, 5-speed, with 70,500 original mostly highway miles on it.
Anyone who would take a 99 with 175k on it, with its related coil pack problems should have their head examined! The mileage is way too high for a 99.
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10-14-2007, 03:09 PM
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KRRZ350:
Why would you take a high mileage 99 over a low mileage 95 any day? That sounds ridiculous to me.
I have a mint one-owner 95SE, 5-speed, with 70,500 original mostly highway miles on it.
Anyone who would take a 99 with 175k on it, with its related coil pack problems should have their head examined! The mileage is way too high for a 99.
Why would you take a high mileage 99 over a low mileage 95 any day? That sounds ridiculous to me.
I have a mint one-owner 95SE, 5-speed, with 70,500 original mostly highway miles on it.
Anyone who would take a 99 with 175k on it, with its related coil pack problems should have their head examined! The mileage is way too high for a 99.
Well mansurx pretty much summed it up, but to touch on a few more things age is just as bad as mileage imho, sitting for extended periods is even worse, especially if it sat for an extended period for a reason, like the thing was hit more times than jenna jameson. And the coil pack issues scaring someone away from a '99 sounds ridiculous to me, I just sold two different complete sets of hanshin coil packs on E-bay for under $80, hell there's a set in the 4G classifieds right now for $40.
10-14-2007, 05:41 PM
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Nonsense![
QUOTE=KRRZ350;6004273]Well mansurx pretty much summed it up, but to touch on a few more things age is just as bad as mileage imho, sitting for extended periods is even worse, especially if it sat for an extended period for a reason, like the thing was hit more times than jenna jameson. And the coil pack issues scaring someone away from a '99 sounds ridiculous to me, I just sold two different complete sets of hanshin coil packs on E-bay for under $80, hell there's a set in the 4G classifieds right now for $40.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=KRRZ350;6004273]Well mansurx pretty much summed it up, but to touch on a few more things age is just as bad as mileage imho, sitting for extended periods is even worse, especially if it sat for an extended period for a reason, like the thing was hit more times than jenna jameson. And the coil pack issues scaring someone away from a '99 sounds ridiculous to me, I just sold two different complete sets of hanshin coil packs on E-bay for under $80, hell there's a set in the 4G classifieds right now for $40.[/QUOTE]
10-14-2007, 07:33 PM
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Are you kidding me? Just because it is a 99 shouldnt steer you away from them. Each year of the 4th gen has its known problems, and the only one I know of for 99s are the coilpacks. Get them changed for under $100 and youre good to go, if they havent already been changed. Seriously guys, what is wrong with a 99 other than the coils?
10-14-2007, 07:36 PM
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Are you kidding me? Just because it is a 99 shouldnt steer you away from them. Each year of the 4th gen has its known problems, and the only one I know of for 99s are the coilpacks. Get them changed for under $100 and youre good to go, if they havent already been changed. Seriously guys, what is wrong with a 99 other than the coils?
The immobilizer alone is the reason I'd avoid a '99, personally. Not a fan of that sort of stuff.
10-14-2007, 10:21 PM
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In an emergency it would take me 10 minutes to 'hot wire' my Max with two jumper leads and a phillips. Haven't looked into the steering column lock, but shouldn't take more than another 5 with a screwdriver. With the NATS system that wouldn't really be possible. Never know if I'd ever have to, but I like knowing that I could.
10-14-2007, 10:27 PM
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well i would assume that this is its exact purpose, so its harder to hot wire the car and thus steal it ?
i heard of problems when replacing keys and also people had trouble when they replaced the ignition switch - i duno thats just what i recall, maybe wrong
All the new cars come with immobilizers, but i can see how an early version of it in our 99's may be a little finicky...
i heard of problems when replacing keys and also people had trouble when they replaced the ignition switch - i duno thats just what i recall, maybe wrong
All the new cars come with immobilizers, but i can see how an early version of it in our 99's may be a little finicky...
10-15-2007, 12:14 AM
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Nothing wrong necessarily, but I've seen a fair amount of people posting on here about NATS failures, and I personally wouldn't want a '99 for one reason, which is the NATS system.
In an emergency it would take me 10 minutes to 'hot wire' my Max with two jumper leads and a phillips. Haven't looked into the steering column lock, but shouldn't take more than another 5 with a screwdriver. With the NATS system that wouldn't really be possible. Never know if I'd ever have to, but I like knowing that I could.
In an emergency it would take me 10 minutes to 'hot wire' my Max with two jumper leads and a phillips. Haven't looked into the steering column lock, but shouldn't take more than another 5 with a screwdriver. With the NATS system that wouldn't really be possible. Never know if I'd ever have to, but I like knowing that I could.
BAM! I just stalked you, wrote down your vin, and went to the dealer with a photoshoped registration (not even needed 99% of the time), walked out with the keys to your car
'99 And NATS FTMFW, If I had that I wouldn't have the vin on my dashboard covered up and my inspection sticker exacto knifed!!! NATS is the one reason I WOULD want a '99
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