ssautochrome quality?
#41
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For the price of quality headers plus the $350 the he paid for installation, the cost doesn't match the horsepower gains IMO; but then again I wouldn't pay another for the labor. I would rather put that cash into a 00VI as well as a Greddy EU, or better yet, dump in some more money and force induce the vehicle.
Gains minimal.
No dyno no care.
#42
20+ fwhp. I've posted the dynos numerous amount of times. If you're serious about modding, you'll get quality headers. I too was anti header on the A32, but after much research/consideration/looking outside the box, I realized they are necessary for maximum performance. I’ve even posted the links where I was calling out headers and saying that they are not worth it. But, now I know they add a proven 20+fwhp over stock. Unless you can find a 1st gen Stillen Y, headers are the real way to go for power.
Last edited by NmexMAX; 12-09-2007 at 01:29 PM.
#43
^^Really? I've never heard that, do you still have a dyno sheet? What else was done to your car when you installed headers? I'm genuinely curious, I've never heard that. I've never had first hand experience, just from what I've read on here there is other places where I'd rather spend my money.
#44
#45
0.o Wow man, im pretty broke though, what would you suggest about that package from ssautochrome? I know it won't be as high as cattman headers probably but it still should put gains like near the cattman.
#48
Basically why I'm trying to say is that (from what I've seen) the gains are minimal compared to the cost installation. So that for the money and time you could get better gains.
Also side note: thanks for actually responding to my other post. I was rereading my post and it sounded really sarcastic, and I didn't want it to seem that way, but it did. So sorry.
#49
Yes, they do. The Cattman headers and y-pipe make up a 'system' so to speak, ie you can't have one w/o the other, and we typically call the 'system' just headers as it's easier and shorter to type and is understood what is meant. At least that's how I think/write and how I think most orgers do to. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
#50
Has any one ever ordered the headers and y pipe from ssautochrome.com? They have a real good deal for headers and the y pipe which are both polished for $195, but i don't know about the quality of their y pipes. I don't want to be stuck with the bees-in-can. Also do ya'll recommend adding a b pipe and a high flow cat, and would it be a good combination to finish it off with a Cattman exhaust? Thanks for the help guys.
#51
Yes, they do. The Cattman headers and y-pipe make up a 'system' so to speak, ie you can't have one w/o the other, and we typically call the 'system' just headers as it's easier and shorter to type and is understood what is meant. At least that's how I think/write and how I think most orgers do to. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
#52
It seems that anyone who actually owns the SSautochrome package have no complaints about it, do you experience any of the bees in can sound with it? I'm starting to reconsider and go ahead and get them.
#54
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=23277133
SS Chrome headers/y-pipe + cheap test pipe + home made catback
It sounds like **** cause the cameras so close but just to give you an idea. No bees in a can for me, not like a honda anywayz.
SS Chrome headers/y-pipe + cheap test pipe + home made catback
It sounds like **** cause the cameras so close but just to give you an idea. No bees in a can for me, not like a honda anywayz.
#56
Yes, they do. The Cattman headers and y-pipe make up a 'system' so to speak, ie you can't have one w/o the other, and we typically call the 'system' just headers as it's easier and shorter to type and is understood what is meant. At least that's how I think/write and how I think most orgers do to. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
OT: Your car is amazing, its definitely one of the best 4th gens.
#57
Alright that's what I thought, thanks for the clarification. So yeah the dyno chart is impressive, but the problem is that not all of that is attributed to the headers, but I guess there is no real clear cut way to test out the cattman system.
OT: Your car is amazing, its definitely one of the best 4th gens.
OT: Your car is amazing, its definitely one of the best 4th gens.
#58
Yeah I was, I thought the headers were different lengths than the stock ones, thus making it impossible to run just the cattman y-pipe without the cattman headers. Correct me if I'm wrong, and you got 19 hp from JUST headers, nothing else added from the base pull and the other one.
#59
Yeah I was, I thought the headers were different lengths than the stock ones, thus making it impossible to run just the cattman y-pipe without the cattman headers. Correct me if I'm wrong, and you got 19 hp from JUST headers, nothing else added from the base pull and the other one.
#60
There are a few different places selling the headers and y pipe combination for around $190-200.
comparing the pictures.. i mean its not like the piping they use is a lot thinner or anything if anything it looks thicker
heres one of the ebay ones below
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-01...spagenameZWDVW
and this is the other one on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...003676333&rd=1
and compare those which both obviously come with headers too the budget below for about the same price...without headers
comparing the pictures.. i mean its not like the piping they use is a lot thinner or anything if anything it looks thicker
heres one of the ebay ones below
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-01...spagenameZWDVW
and this is the other one on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...003676333&rd=1
and compare those which both obviously come with headers too the budget below for about the same price...without headers
#61
There are a few different places selling the headers and y pipe combination for around $190-200.
comparing the pictures.. i mean its not like the piping they use is a lot thinner or anything if anything it looks thicker
heres one of the ebay ones below
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-01...spagenameZWDVW
and this is the other one on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...003676333&rd=1
and compare those which both obviously come with headers too the budget below for about the same price...without headers
comparing the pictures.. i mean its not like the piping they use is a lot thinner or anything if anything it looks thicker
heres one of the ebay ones below
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-01...spagenameZWDVW
and this is the other one on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...003676333&rd=1
and compare those which both obviously come with headers too the budget below for about the same price...without headers
#63
seeing as how i PROTOTYPED THEM. i figured i should say something. like i do every time one of these threads come up. they are fine but add NOTHING over a y-pipe in terms of performance. the shorty header is of unequal length. if you want to add some bling they are fine. i hear they fixed the EGR issues that were a problem with the prototypes. if i had a 4th gen i would buy these ONLY because they look nice and cost close to what a budget y pipe costs.
you can close the thread now. i'v spoken.
you can close the thread now. i'v spoken.
#64
seeing as how i PROTOTYPED THEM. i figured i should say something. like i do every time one of these threads come up. they are fine but add NOTHING over a y-pipe in terms of performance. the shorty header is of unequal length. if you want to add some bling they are fine. i hear they fixed the EGR issues that were a problem with the prototypes. if i had a 4th gen i would buy these ONLY because they look nice and cost close to what a budget y pipe costs.
you can close the thread now. i'v spoken.
you can close the thread now. i'v spoken.
#65
I know this thread is old but, i had usefull input for ppl looking into these headers.
I know its a different engine (3.5l) but i had the SS Autochrome headers and y-pipe on my '03 stock cat, stock b pipe, with just a borla muffler welded in. automatic tranny, stock wheels and stock crappy tires and ran 14.3's 1/4 mile all day with tire spin off the line.. with the same set-up, no headers the week before ran consistant 14.8's Thats quite the improvement for $200.00
Dyno's and HP don't mean SH*T, what really matters is the track numbers. and by the way my low end torque wasn't hurt cause i was still pulling 2.1 60ft's
vid. of the SS Autochrome Headers and Y-Pipe with borla muffler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRe45DnHQQc
I know its a different engine (3.5l) but i had the SS Autochrome headers and y-pipe on my '03 stock cat, stock b pipe, with just a borla muffler welded in. automatic tranny, stock wheels and stock crappy tires and ran 14.3's 1/4 mile all day with tire spin off the line.. with the same set-up, no headers the week before ran consistant 14.8's Thats quite the improvement for $200.00
Dyno's and HP don't mean SH*T, what really matters is the track numbers. and by the way my low end torque wasn't hurt cause i was still pulling 2.1 60ft's
vid. of the SS Autochrome Headers and Y-Pipe with borla muffler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRe45DnHQQc
Last edited by paul5:14; 09-20-2008 at 12:04 PM.
#66
I also have these headers. No issues with them. Install went okay...rear header was a PITA.
I had the Y-Pipe too but it was too loud (I don't really know if I'd call it bees-in-a-can). I sold it and got a OEM Fed Spec. pipe.
The rest of my setup is Magnaflow High-Flow Cat, Budget B-Pipe, OEM 4th Gen Muffler.
I am thinking about going to a Cattman Y, and Cattman SS Muffler...but unsure if I'd have the same loudness as before.
I want a car that sounds almost stock when idling (right now I have a slight rumble) and nice at WOT. I don't want to sound like a Civic.
My car sounds perfect with my setup, just how I like it.
I had the Y-Pipe too but it was too loud (I don't really know if I'd call it bees-in-a-can). I sold it and got a OEM Fed Spec. pipe.
The rest of my setup is Magnaflow High-Flow Cat, Budget B-Pipe, OEM 4th Gen Muffler.
I am thinking about going to a Cattman Y, and Cattman SS Muffler...but unsure if I'd have the same loudness as before.
I want a car that sounds almost stock when idling (right now I have a slight rumble) and nice at WOT. I don't want to sound like a Civic.
My car sounds perfect with my setup, just how I like it.
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