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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Slight delay ( extended reving) when swithcing gears. Tranny Going? AUTOMATIC.

Slight delay ( extended reving) when swithcing gears. Tranny Going? AUTOMATIC.
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Sounds like your tranny is slipping.
Have you checked tranny fluid level and color? Does it feel like it's being reved up and then it drops into gear? If so, I had a similar problem with my Cavalier and it eventually got to the point where it would rev to 3k rpm before moving and shorty after died completely.
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Slight delay ( extended reving) when swithcing gears. Tranny Going? AUTOMATIC.
More information needed.

Have you checked fluid level and color?
Is it when hot, cold, both?
Do you have an external trans cooler, or just the stock?
Ever done a drain and fill or a flush?
Anything leading up to this?

Basically, flaring could be caused by a number of things.
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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Sounds like your tranny is slipping.
Have you checked tranny fluid level and color? Does it feel like it's being reved up and then it drops into gear? If so, I had a similar problem with my Cavalier and it eventually got to the point where it would rev to 3k rpm before moving and shorty after died completely.

DIED??

It goes up to 3rpm and then goes into gear, just with a small delay.

Doesnt it have to switch gears at 3rpm?

Will check the tranny fluid tomorrow,
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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is the tranny fluid next to the oil one? Its a stick right?
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 12:36 AM
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DIED??

It goes up to 3rpm and then goes into gear, just with a small delay.

Doesnt it have to switch gears at 3rpm?

Will check the tranny fluid tomorrow,
The auto trans' shift points are calculated through a number of inputs, it's not always 3k RPM. I'd sure hope it isn't changing gears at 3 RPM, you'd never get moving.

So you put it in Drive or manual low/2, hit the gas and it revs up to 3 grand before actually engaging the gear? Or does it flare up to 3 grand in the midst of a shift?

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is the tranny fluid next to the oil one? Its a stick right?
It is a dipstick, yes. It comes up next to the intake scoop.
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 04:29 AM
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DIED??

It goes up to 3rpm and then goes into gear, just with a small delay.

Doesnt it have to switch gears at 3rpm?

Will check the tranny fluid tomorrow,
Yes died. In drive it would just rev up and and the car would only inch up ever so slightly. It almost felt like it was in neutral.
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=550693 yea i know what you mean
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ohh... no no. It moves fine. It just feels like it theres a delay when switching gears.


I dunno how to describe it but,

When the gears switch the gap between gears is a lil longer than normal...
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Originally Posted by maximaserg
ohh... no no. It moves fine. It just feels like it theres a delay when switching gears.


I dunno how to describe it but,

When the gears switch the gap between gears is a lil longer than normal...
Does it flare between shifts? Change at all depending on driving conditions, i.e. throttle position, engine speed, engine load, vehicle speed, current and target gear?
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by maximaserg
ohh... no no. It moves fine. It just feels like it theres a delay when switching gears.


I dunno how to describe it but,

When the gears switch the gap between gears is a lil longer than normal...
These trannys are known to have problems with the shift solenoids but I dont think this is your case.
I know this feeling all too well.. Trust me. The green max has been through a few trannys I've seen the way you drive.....Your tranny is going for sure my friend. I'll take a look at it the next meet to make sure
It may be time for a 5spd swap
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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yea flare sounds like the right word.

I dunno accordingtou, i hope its not going.

The color of the fluid is **** brown, and it looks like its more than enought(above the HOT lable)

P.S. just out of curiosity how much is a 5 speed tranny conversion compared to just an auto .
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Originally Posted by maximaserg
yea flare sounds like the right word.

I dunno accordingtou, i hope its not going.

The color of the fluid is **** brown, and it looks like its more than enought(above the HOT lable)

P.S. just out of curiosity how much is a 5 speed tranny conversion compared to just an auto .
Brown? Bad.
Overfilled? Bad.

Does it smell burnt? I bet it does.

Junk it, it's gonna go at some point. How long it takes, there's no reliable way to determine that.

As has been said before, with the cost of the auto trans in the A32 it is in no way worth rebuilding unless you have money to blow, can do it yourself, and want it done.

Pick up a new one from a junkyard and swap it out/have it swapped out, then keep up regular maintenance and you should be good.

Depends on where you get parts. I could do a trans swap for ~$200 overall where I am, just based on pricing from the local pick and pull ($80 for a trans, equally low prices for everything else). Some people have paid >$2k for the entire swap.
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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does your car have this problem when it's cold, hot or all the time? and do you have a tranny cooler cause if the cooler has a fan or too big it will cause problems in the winter cause the fluid has a hard time getting up to operating temp, if so just bypass it till the spring.

I paid 1800.00 for my swap and that included everything, a shop will charge about 1200-1500 to fix your auto or you can get a tranny out of the yard and have someone replace it for alittle cheaper. my problem was the TC the car did not want to engage and disengage in and out of gear. so I just added a friction additive and babied it till I save up for the swap

hopfully it's something easy like a clogged filter or a large tranny cooler cause they are easy fixes
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
does your car have this problem when it's cold, hot or all the time? and do you have a tranny cooler cause if the cooler has a fan or too big it will cause problems in the winter cause the fluid has a hard time getting up to operating temp, if so just bypass it till the spring.

I paid 1800.00 for my swap and that included everything, a shop will charge about 1200-1500 to fix your auto or you can get a tranny out of the yard and have someone replace it for alittle cheaper. my problem was the TC the car did not want to engage and disengage in and out of gear. so I just added a friction additive and babied it till I save up for the swap

hopfully it's something easy like a clogged filter or a large tranny cooler cause they are easy fixes
With the condition his fluid is in, honestly I wouldn't consider keeping the trans (with the cost of used ones).

Hell, right now my only cooler is an external trans cooler...rad was cracked, needed one immediately and the only one available in the yard was from a 5MT. Hasn't had a bit of a problem, yet. I'm guessing it gets about the same cooling with the Hayden 401 (or 404, I forget) mounted in front of the condensor behind the grill as the stock built-in trans cooler gets.
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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With the condition his fluid is in, honestly I wouldn't consider keeping the trans (with the cost of used ones).

Hell, right now my only cooler is an external trans cooler...rad was cracked, needed one immediately and the only one available in the yard was from a 5MT. Hasn't had a bit of a problem, yet. I'm guessing it gets about the same cooling with the Hayden 401 (or 404, I forget) mounted in front of the condensor behind the grill as the stock built-in trans cooler gets.
I was not saying to keep the tranny but encase he does not have the funds right now to just baby it and save up

as for the cooler some people ran there after market cooler is series with the stock cooler and with 2 coolers and winter temps maybe his tranny fluid is not getting up to temp
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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maximaserg & accordingtou where exactly do you guys live?
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maximaserg & accordingtou where exactly do you guys live?
PHILLY
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=541408
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=545149
Where do you live?
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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right, i know that you're both in philly. I'm around red-lion & buselton.
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I'm having this issue as well, but only when the engine is warm (halfway between the H and C) what is an external transmission cooler? Should we have one of those?
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In my recent findings since disassembly of our automatics i would highly recomend just having a hayden external cooler to keep temps down and keep line pressure up as well, also people have to realize using the factory radiator mounted cooler isnt ver efficent because of the engine coolant running through the radiator as well, IMO go to whatever parts store buy a trans cooler made for the motor homes cut the lines to rad and install tthe cooler AHEAD of the rad and a/c condenser. Heat IMO is one of the biggest problems these transmissions face .
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Originally Posted by Coolsaber57
I'm having this issue as well, but only when the engine is warm (halfway between the H and C) what is an external transmission cooler? Should we have one of those?
http://www.haydenauto.com/products/t...il-coolers.htm


They help lower the trans fluid temperatures. Heat is the number one enemy of any automatic trans. It's a good idea to have one, and it can't really hurt (short of keeping the fluid too cold as t6378tp pointed out).

Originally Posted by 91parkave
In my recent findings since disassembly of our automatics i would highly recomend just having a hayden external cooler to keep temps down and keep line pressure up as well, also people have to realize using the factory radiator mounted cooler isnt ver efficent because of the engine coolant running through the radiator as well, IMO go to whatever parts store buy a trans cooler made for the motor homes cut the lines to rad and install tthe cooler AHEAD of the rad and a/c condenser. Heat IMO is one of the biggest problems these transmissions face .
Keep line pressure up with an external trans cooler?

The cooler mounted in the radiator was designed that way on purpose, so I've been told. Supposedly the coolant helps to draw heat away from the trans fluid...
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right, i know that you're both in philly. I'm around red-lion & buselton.

Thats funny i just went to my mechanic right of red lion, he said it wasnt bad yet. He said when its gonna go bad ill def know.
Then i went to my buddies shop to chill, on red lion & bustleton. lol.

Im in Warminster.
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Originally Posted by pmohr
http://www.haydenauto.com/products/t...il-coolers.htm


They help lower the trans fluid temperatures. Heat is the number one enemy of any automatic trans. It's a good idea to have one, and it can't really hurt (short of keeping the fluid too cold as t6378tp pointed out).



Keep line pressure up with an external trans cooler?

The cooler mounted in the radiator was designed that way on purpose, so I've been told. Supposedly the coolant helps to draw heat away from the trans fluid...
i know.......what i m saying is to use only th hayden cooler, not the raditor trans cooler and hayden cooler combined.
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Originally Posted by pmohr
http://www.haydenauto.com/products/t...il-coolers.htm


They help lower the trans fluid temperatures. Heat is the number one enemy of any automatic trans. It's a good idea to have one, and it can't really hurt (short of keeping the fluid too cold as t6378tp pointed out).

How hard is it to install? How long would it take? Is it an extra cooler or does it hook into the cooling system somewhere?
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Originally Posted by Coolsaber57
How hard is it to install? How long would it take? Is it an extra cooler or does it hook into the cooling system somewhere?
It goes inline with the existing trans cooler (build into the stock radiator, as in most automatic vehicles). Takes 15 minutes to install, and that includes measuring and cutting the hoses and attaching the cooler.

You'll need more trans fluid when you install it, as you've just effectively increased the capacity of the trans cooling system.
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hmm, which cooler should I use...what is recommended for our cars?
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hmm, which cooler should I use...what is recommended for our cars?
Personally I use a Hayden...401, IIRC.

Seems to work just fine, and that's my only trans cooling right now.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=259929
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=89239
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hmm, which cooler should I use...what is recommended for our cars?
I used the b&m cooler the fins are thicker than the hayden unit and less likey to bend
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Brown? Bad.
Overfilled? Bad.

Does it smell burnt? I bet it does.

Junk it, it's gonna go at some point. How long it takes, there's no reliable way to determine that.

As has been said before, with the cost of the auto trans in the A32 it is in no way worth rebuilding unless you have money to blow, can do it yourself, and want it done.

Pick up a new one from a junkyard and swap it out/have it swapped out, then keep up regular maintenance and you should be good.

Depends on where you get parts. I could do a trans swap for ~$200 overall where I am, just based on pricing from the local pick and pull ($80 for a trans, equally low prices for everything else). Some people have paid >$2k for the entire swap.
I might be getting in touch with you in the future because I'm having the same problem. My car feels like its upshifting to fast then down shift then upshifting again and it feels like its barely making it into 3rd. Like its holding the gear to long. It started feeling funny days after my 00VI swap and has been doing it ever since. I'm praying its something else.
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I might be getting in touch with you in the future because I'm having the same problem. My car feels like its upshifting to fast then down shift then upshifting again and it feels like its barely making it into 3rd. Like its holding the gear to long. It started feeling funny days after my 00VI swap and has been doing it ever since. I'm praying its something else.

Yea, mine does the same occasionally. What happened to the Z? I remember those exhaust clips in the parking lot of Muvico...
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Yea, mine does the same occasionally. What happened to the Z? I remember those exhaust clips in the parking lot of Muvico...
Yeah that was a fun day getting kicked off mall property for the first time lol. I demodded the Z and its parked for the winter. The police got me for my tint and I bent a rim pretty bad. I might drive it to the movies now and then but thats it. I'll be selling it soon and sticking with the max for a while.
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/digs up old thread

I'm having a similar problem. It's in my '00 GXE, and it's my 1st to 2nd shift only.


For what it's worth, the fluid and filter have just been changed (did not smell burnt), and the car has apparently had the technical service bulletin done.


If driven gently then you don't notice anything. Once you start going past the half point on the throttle, the 1st to 2nd shift is delayed... and requires more rpms. For example, when floored, the rpms go all the way to 65-6600 (as opposed to 6000-6100 on my buttery-smooth GLE), and it actually hangs there for a bit, and then BOOM, it shifts and damn near gives the driver and passengers whiplash.

My dealer took the car to two nissan dealerships who tested the tranny and said I don't need a TCM or solenoid, that it's fine and it's just "something nissans do" ... They also gave me a 4 page graph with shift points and stuff on it that I don't quite understand (I'll post it later). I'm not sure I believe what they've told me, as teh car was under powertrain warranty at the time (which has since just recently expired).

The problem SOMETIMES goes away, but only after a LOT of extended driving.

I just wish it shifted like the GLE.

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