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Old 03-09-2008, 05:48 PM
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New mod to new car. 6000k bi-xenon HID/3000k HID fogs

I figure it time for a new mod. Of course ever since I started using HID's in my volvo, I haven't gone back since. So it's only natural that I install these into the maxima.

What I got was a 6000k bi-xenon H4 kit (Cefiro housings use this opposed to 9004 the stock ones use). Along with this kit comes a nifty glare shield. It is suppose to help clean up the cutoff, but it has a notch in it so when the bulbs re-align, it allows light to pass to give you a high-beam.

I did run into an install problem. A very long time ago, I believe Ian install an upgraded headlight harness either to improve visibility, or to use higher wattage bulbs. This caused some unpredicatable behavior when I installed the lights the first time. The lows would turn on only about 20% of the time despite having the switch fully on. The high beam mode failed to work at all. So after closer inspection today, I discover that the harness appeared to either be grounding out, or some how caused enough of a voltage loss that the ballast would fail to ignite the bulbs. Jiggling the harness caused the relays to cycle.

So I removed the harness. I created a 9004/H4 adaptor using a 9004 and H4 pig tail. I used a voltmeter to determine high/low/common and wired accordingly. I reran the HID harness in place of the now removed headlight harness. Hooked everything up, and viola. Everything works perfect. I have lows, I have highs, and they come on everytime.

I went ahead and swapped the fogs with an H3 3000k kit. It looks pretty good, and gives the car a much classier look IMHO. I also replaced the city lights with an amber bulb, and found red bulbs for the rear side markers as Ian had them removed all together. I got to see the lights in action last night. They are significantly better, but it looks like I will have a problem with the reflector wanting to scatter the light. The only way to really fix that is likely to retrofit projectors in...maybe look at using 95/96 housing with the fluted glass (my volvo had flute glass, and the cut-off was perfect with no stray light), but I'm not sure if I want to do that or not. I've yet to re-aim the lights and will try to do so in the next day or so.

Anyway, behold:

Lights powering up..headlights start really blue, and the fogs actually start off green.


You can see the glare shield in action. Notice how the bottom of the reflector is dark.


Headlights are a brilliant, almost blue/purplish white, the fogs are a brilliant lemonade yellow.


Amber city light, and amber corner lantern.


Red Rear side markers. I like the effect it has on the turn signals:
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Pretty cool! Now for some night-time pics...
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Where did you get the fog kit from and it is a H3c bulb? How much?
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It's not an H3c kit unfortunately. I get my off mydepots.com. Thier kits start from $80 and go up around $140 ish. I've bought 5 kits from them and all have been great, and reliable. My entire setup ran me about $280 shipped.

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You know what I'm going to say...

Edit: you've been gone for 2 years, so I'll say it

Projectors. Get projectors.
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Yes, please post up some night shots. I have Cefiros w/4600k HIDs, and just ordered a H3C 3000k kit for my fogs. Unfortunately I won't be able to install the fog set until the weather backs off. I am dying to see how the setup looks at night.
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Nice way to start the modding Sarin!
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Nice job...

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I got some aiming to do. Though I remember hearing from Ian that the Cefiros are a ***** to get adjusted. My camera seems to white out the yellow a bit. I'll probably need to look at getting the H3c, but my regular place doesn't carry them it appears.

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What's up with the left fog? BTW, I'm loving the orange headlight city lights...
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The fogs and headlights really need reaiming. I'll probably deal with it this week.

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mydepots.com. What kinda warranty for their HID kids?
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Sweet, Thanks for the pics mang! Looks good. The Cefiros are a tad trickier to aim than the standard Maxima lamps. I had to use washers to aim up/down on the bolts that bolt to the core support.
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mydepots.com. What kinda warranty for their HID kids?
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i got mine off ebay and they come with 2 year warrenty...10000k!.bright at as...i love um...the fog lights look interesting...great job
 
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Warranty taken from the site:

Q. What's the warranty period for these HID kits?

A. The ballasts and bulbs come with 14 months warranty from all factory defects. If any component fails within warranty period, we will replace the defective component free of charge.

This warranty specifically excludes defects resulting from misuse, abuse, neglect, alteration, modification, improper installation, unauthorized repairs, submersion, theft, vehicle crash, or by any other type of impact. Removal, installation, or reinstallation costs are not covered by this warranty. All bulbs are tested and burned in by the manufacturer prior to delivery. Burst / exploded HID bulbs are not covered by warranty.

It is the buyer's responsibility to incur all warranty and return shipping charges.

For warranty claims, the buyer has two options: 1) Return the defective part and pay $20 as the return shipping fee and we will send the buyer a new replacement once we receive the returned item; 2) For any single defective ballast or bulb, the buyer can pay $30 and we will send the buyer a new replacement immediately and the buyer do not need to return the defective part.

VVME LLC reserves the right to change the design of its products without any obligation to modify any previous product.
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I like it. You need aiming, but you know that. Good job on the shield! Nice to see someone who didn't simply slap a kit in their headlights.
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Nice work as always. Yeah, the Volvo had a great cut off to be in regular headlamp assemblies. Great work though and love the look of the Ambers and rear corner red bulbs. I like the effect too.
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Do you have any night wall shots, so we can actually get a better picture or what your beam pattern actually looks like with the glare shields?
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Bro you definitely need projectors. Then you'd be all set.

http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/...g%20Kit/74.JPG
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http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/...g%20Kit/78.JPG
http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/...g%20Kit/80.JPG
http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/...ors/Cutoff.jpg
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http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/...rs/LowBeam.jpg
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I am 6000k all around but just imagine your car with projectors...HOTNESS.
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what shrouds you got on those TLs?
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Originally Posted by goldtooth
what shrouds you got on those TLs?
I do not know as I didn't make them...but they look like the E## shrouds. All I know is they are TL and have a clear lens. Got them from a guy on NYCMaximas.org for $462.
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I'm jelous... Nice job!
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nice, I'm about to put mine in, but I'm waiting on the spare headlights to come in and I have yet to decide which shrouds to go with
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Another suggestion OP...get rid of the red clearance bulb in the tail lights. I think your car will look very nice then. Oh, and maybe take off the front plate. .

I dunno WA laws but NY ones are pretty strict and in my area I get away with tint, bright *** lights all around (LED's and HID's), and no front plate. Looking good though.
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Those 6,000k do look nice.
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Originally Posted by IlyaK
Another suggestion OP...get rid of the red clearance bulb in the tail lights. I think your car will look very nice then. Oh, and maybe take off the front plate. .

I dunno WA laws but NY ones are pretty strict and in my area I get away with tint, bright *** lights all around (LED's and HID's), and no front plate. Looking good though.
So no clearance bulbs at all in the back? I would take the front plate off, but with the 3" exhaust and everything else it has, most cops in my area are just itching to pull me over even when I don't give them a good reason to.

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That looks great! How difficult is the install though? Granted I'm all up for doing it (I did the Cefiro install when it was Ian's car), but I just don't have a good place to do an install without going out of my way.
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Originally Posted by maximase86
So no clearance bulbs at all in the back? I would take the front plate off, but with the 3" exhaust and everything else it has, most cops in my area are just itching to pull me over even when I don't give them a good reason to.

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I don't have any clearance bulbs (the ones on the sides in the lower part). I don't think cops even notice that.

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That looks great! How difficult is the install though? Granted I'm all up for doing it (I did the Cefiro install when it was Ian's car), but I just don't have a good place to do an install without going out of my way.
Install of the projectors? I dunno...they were made for me. It's just like installing a headlight lol.

Only thing I had to do was install the HID kit (mount the ballast, etc.) and run the bi-xenon harness. That was it.
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is it legal to have an HID kit?
I want to put 12 000k in my max with projectors but I want to be sure that I can without been always arrested

And finally where I can get abordable projectors for my 96 max and the
12 000k kit?
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Originally Posted by Seal89
is it legal to have an HID kit?
I want to put 12 000k in my max with projectors but I want to be sure that I can without been always arrested

And finally where I can get abordable projectors for my 96 max and the
12 000k kit?
It's perfectly legal. The only reason why people get pulled over (not arrested) is because if they don't have projectors they glare too much blinding other drivers. With projectors, you blind far less and basically look like any BMW/Lexus/MB on the road.
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Originally Posted by IlyaK
It's perfectly legal. The only reason why people get pulled over (not arrested) is because if they don't have projectors they glare too much blinding other drivers. With projectors, you blind far less and basically look like any BMW/Lexus/MB on the road.
thank you thats a great answer, exactly like what I wanted to ear.
And now where do I can get 12000k HID Kit and Projectors ?
[I'm in Montreal (Quebec, Canada)]
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Craiglist, EBay, Paradox Systems (where I got mine), many places. There is group buys on here too I believe. Look around.
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Originally Posted by IlyaK
I don't have any clearance bulbs (the ones on the sides in the lower part). I don't think cops even notice that.

Pics of mine:

http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/...ictures/13.jpg
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http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/...ictures/66.jpg
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http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/...ictures/65.jpg
http://www.anyyouth.com/ilya/Maxima/...ictures/64.jpg



Install of the projectors? I dunno...they were made for me. It's just like installing a headlight lol.

Only thing I had to do was install the HID kit (mount the ballast, etc.) and run the bi-xenon harness. That was it.
Yeah, that was how this car was when I got it with the rear lights. Maybe I will take them back out. Not sure yet.

Thanks for the leads on the places to look. I'll start looking at that...though I really would like to keep the cefiros.
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Originally Posted by IlyaK
It's perfectly legal. The only reason why people get pulled over (not arrested) is because if they don't have projectors they glare too much blinding other drivers. With projectors, you blind far less and basically look like any BMW/Lexus/MB on the road.

I'd be careful saying that. As far as I'm aware, any aftermarket HID kit is illegal. The HID's must be installed from the factory or a factory option for them to be legal. That being said, installing HID's are at your own risk. It then varies from the place to place how police handle HID's and whether they would cite you or not. Of course, take what I say with a grain of salt.

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Perhaps I'm wrong. Who knows. Maybe it does depend on the area.
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Originally Posted by IlyaK
It's perfectly legal. The only reason why people get pulled over (not arrested) is because if they don't have projectors they glare too much blinding other drivers. With projectors, you blind far less and basically look like any BMW/Lexus/MB on the road.
It's actually illegal, even for a retrofit, but most places do not enforce it.
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Originally Posted by queenambeach
It's actually illegal, even for a retrofit, but most places do not enforce it.
You got to it before I did. Anything not factory is illegal almost everywhere, as far as I know. Even retrofits. I have gone through inspection 3 years in a row now with my projectors, though, and never once has anyone said anything to me. With projectors you're extremely unlikely to get pulled over, too, because they will look more factory than a kit in stock headlights.

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thank you thats a great answer, exactly like what I wanted to ear.
And now where do I can get 12000k HID Kit and Projectors ?
[I'm in Montreal (Quebec, Canada)]
You can buy that stuff online. You cannot buy projector headlights, per se, they have to be custom. Oh, and PLEASE do not do 12,000k. It's PURPLE. It looks god awful. And the light output would be worse than stock, as well as hurt your eyes driving at night.
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Good job, tho I must say I dont like it. Sorry...
Too many colors going on up there. Orange corners, green/yellow fogs, blue/purple headlights... red rear corners... yikes sounds like its christmas again.
Idk i'm just not a fan of the yellow fogs... we dont drive lexus's.
I will say tho I dig the amber city light thing u made there. Id say drop the red rear light thingys (dont use any bulbs, thats what I did), and match the foglights with same color HID kit. Just my opinion tho. I have ran 6000k HID's in headlights and fogs it looked nice, but a bit too blue, and bright as hell. Getting projectors in r34 lights retroed soon, and going with 4300k this time.
Otherwise, good work.
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I did the yellow fogs more for functionality than looks. I'm part night-blind, and the yellow especially in rain has helps me see much better at night. As for the 6000k lights, I did it because I wanted a little more color for looks while having decent amount of light. I'll probably yank the rear side markers out for sure. 4300k in projectors would be awesome with the color effect from the projectors, but that's probably a little of time coming. Either way, thanks for the feedback...I thrive on that.

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Originally Posted by maximase86
I did the yellow fogs more for functionality than looks. I'm part night-blind, and the yellow especially in rain has helps me see much better at night. As for the 6000k lights, I did it because I wanted a little more color for looks while having decent amount of light. I'll probably yank the rear side markers out for sure. 4300k in projectors would be awesome with the color effect from the projectors, but that's probably a little of time coming. Either way, thanks for the feedback...I thrive on that.

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This was going to be my next post.

Anything higher than 6000k you start losing 'visibility'. 4300k is the best in terms of what you'll be able to see. 12000k or 30000k is a waste of money and is STRICTLY for aesthetics.
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