4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999) Visit the 4th Generation forum to ask specific questions or find out more about the 4th Generation Maxima.

TRANS issue :(

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-29-2008, 03:43 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
MaxFanatik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Riverdale NJ
Posts: 932
TRANS issue :(

last nite i was driviing in the city and all of a sudden it became a ***** to get into any gear or come out of gear. I was basically forcing it in. I had this happen once or tiwce before not as SEVERE.. it would do it when im in really bad traffic and im using my clutch alot.

Well i need some help what can it be... if i turn the car off i can move the thru the trans but its notchier than normal like its not smooth,. when car is running i can barely get into or out of gear with out some elbow grease... i also noticed my trans is wet and dripping.... i kno mine sweats but it looks like more than sweat, but it started to pour so i never jacked ti up to see where tis coming from. i checked my clutch fluid its all the way to the top.. need some ideas to how deep this will hit my pockets.
MaxFanatik is offline  
Old 06-29-2008, 04:03 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
QNO_A32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,107
top off the tranny with gear oil and check the linkage. one or both your axle seals are most likely bad causing the leak...after a while now theres prob not enough fluid it there.
QNO_A32 is offline  
Old 06-29-2008, 04:09 PM
  #3  
Banned
iTrader: (6)
 
allensteiner21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 59715
Posts: 769
don't know much about transimissions but start shifting without the clutch - like a semi - should help until you get it fixed.
allensteiner21 is offline  
Old 06-29-2008, 04:11 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
xlr8r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 301
If you push up on the drive axles where they come out the tranny, and the oil leak increases then it's the tranny seals. While you've got the tranny open you may as well rebuild properly (right shims and all) California prices are close to $2K, elsewhere it's probably cheaper.

Are you sure it's not the clutch? Your description sounds like bad clutch.
xlr8r is offline  
Old 06-29-2008, 04:21 PM
  #5  
Banned
iTrader: (6)
 
allensteiner21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 59715
Posts: 769
Originally Posted by xlr8r
If you push up on the drive axles where they come out the tranny, and the oil leak increases then it's the tranny seals. While you've got the tranny open you may as well rebuild properly (right shims and all) California prices are close to $2K, elsewhere it's probably cheaper.

Are you sure it's not the clutch? Your description sounds like bad clutch.
more like the throw out bearing that engages/disengages the clutch. if it was the clutch it would most likely be slipping as well.
allensteiner21 is offline  
Old 06-29-2008, 04:46 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
MaxFanatik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Riverdale NJ
Posts: 932
my tranny was full refilled about 2 months ago id say. my car was driving fine and bam after alot of playing with the clutch in ****ty manhattan midnite traffic it started to go bad,.


BTW it shifts much easier at high RPM.... it kinda flows better.
MaxFanatik is offline  
Old 06-29-2008, 05:06 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Product_Of_Korea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: BFE, Minnesota
Posts: 2,209
i would say the slave clutch cylinder is not pushing out the fork for the throwout bearing causing it not to engange. try having someone push the fork in manuelally and you try to put it into gear(make sure the clutch is being held in so the car doesnt jump). i would suspect that pin being off before anything considering that you are driving on bumpy roads and what not

Last edited by Product_Of_Korea; 06-29-2008 at 05:08 PM.
Product_Of_Korea is offline  
Old 06-29-2008, 05:10 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Product_Of_Korea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: BFE, Minnesota
Posts: 2,209
also is it oil or gear lube coming out of your trans. i bet its oil and its your rear main seal
Product_Of_Korea is offline  
Old 06-29-2008, 05:49 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
MaxFanatik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Riverdale NJ
Posts: 932
smells like gear oil.
MaxFanatik is offline  
Old 06-29-2008, 06:45 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Product_Of_Korea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: BFE, Minnesota
Posts: 2,209
damn well hopefully its just the seals for the axles. you should post a pic to have others opinions. if its gear lube though your more than likely low in your tranny which could cause failure to your tranny causing you not to be able to shift into gear. i had my tranny run low on gear lube and poof my tranny went.

either which way good luck and i hope you dont have a big bill man
Product_Of_Korea is offline  
Old 06-29-2008, 09:41 PM
  #11  
Whatchyou say?
iTrader: (5)
 
JtzMax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Springfield, Missouri
Posts: 1,870
Diff bearings causing leaks. the fact that it's hard to shift could be clutch, fluid, or shot to hello bearings. Most often, the bad diff bearings casue the leak, not a bad seal. Nothin really happens with the seal, it holds a little pressure, that's about it. In my sig is my write up ... check it out, see if it's someting you can do on your own. On a level of 1 - 10, I'd say it's an 8.5 overall.
JtzMax is offline  
Old 06-30-2008, 09:15 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
MaxFanatik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Riverdale NJ
Posts: 932
its at the shop, mechanic said at first glance seems to be the clutch..

i was told 5th gen 00/01 clutchs are better are they exact drop ins also is better to get clutch set from the dealer or advanced auto/ napa ?
MaxFanatik is offline  
Old 06-30-2008, 03:31 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Product_Of_Korea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: BFE, Minnesota
Posts: 2,209
yes i belive the 5th gen clutch is a drop in. and im not sure about getting at a dealer.
Product_Of_Korea is offline  
Old 07-02-2008, 07:39 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
MaxFanatik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Riverdale NJ
Posts: 932
UPDATE!

new 5th gen clutch in, new fly wheel, i ahve great pressure in my lines..... still hard to shift into gears trans is being sent for a rebuild to see whats up. all gears are like this except for reverse which is easier to get into!

Guys what can it be??? synchros are all ****ed?
BTW trans was full with oil so it was not leaking!

Last edited by MaxFanatik; 07-02-2008 at 07:42 AM.
MaxFanatik is offline  
Old 07-02-2008, 07:18 PM
  #15  
100% chingon
 
clive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,003
Not leaking, then I deduce bearings and seals should be ok.
Sounds like the synchros are shot.
Did it show any other kinds of symptoms besides what you mentioned earlier - for instance did it ever jump out of gear?
clive is offline  
Old 07-02-2008, 07:49 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
QNO_A32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,107
WOW you really should have replaced teh slave first....oops...
QNO_A32 is offline  
Old 07-02-2008, 08:26 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
soccerplr19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: noob in houston
Posts: 179
im having the same problem man, these trannys suck, except my car shifts into every gear on the way to work but at night going home i have no power in my clutch what so ever.
soccerplr19 is offline  
Old 07-02-2008, 09:00 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
iTrader: (35)
 
maxboy325's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Maryland
Posts: 2,135
Check the slave and the master tank... and lower clutch line if its still the stock rubber one
maxboy325 is offline  
Old 07-03-2008, 08:14 AM
  #19  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
MaxFanatik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Riverdale NJ
Posts: 932
Originally Posted by maxboy325
Check the slave and the master tank... and lower clutch line if its still the stock rubber one
my mechanic said his get excellent pressure in the master/slave cyldner the pedal is springy, the lines are not leaking....

this trans took a beat about a yr ago.... when i bought this car dude didnt knothe trans was leaking from a bolt being loose so it went low on fluid and it would grind gears.... and once in a while id ****g up.... but over perid of time my tranny became at some pts difuclt to drive liek ti wont easy into gear it would be crunchy... one thing i noticed my shifter would pop out of gear sometimes, or i ddint need a clutch to taek it out of gear


i drove the car like 15 mins around NYC in buymper to buymper trannfic so iwas really ramming the shifter thru gears w/o a clutch....

Last edited by MaxFanatik; 07-03-2008 at 08:17 AM.
MaxFanatik is offline  
Old 07-03-2008, 08:22 AM
  #20  
Maintenance Monster
iTrader: (10)
 
dgeesaman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Harrisburg, PA
Posts: 3,234
Unless your rebuilder finds a whole lot of gunk in the trans from degrading bearings, or something loose down in the shift mechanism that's getting in the way, I doubt the rebuild will improve shift quality much.

First, make sure this time you fill with the ideal gear oil: I recommend Redline MT-90. Have your rebuilder do all new bearings and seals and ask you about what hard parts he recommends to replace. New hard parts from Nissan get very expensive quick unless this guy happens to have used parts on hand. The last thing you want is to have a rebuild bill above the cost of a brand new tranny.

Dave
dgeesaman is offline  
Old 07-03-2008, 08:22 AM
  #21  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
MaxFanatik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Riverdale NJ
Posts: 932
btw when the car is off, it would sort of crunch through gears, before sat nite it used to be like butter through it.
MaxFanatik is offline  
Old 07-03-2008, 08:24 AM
  #22  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
MaxFanatik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Riverdale NJ
Posts: 932
Originally Posted by dgeesaman
Unless your rebuilder finds a whole lot of gunk in the trans from degrading bearings, or something loose down in the shift mechanism that's getting in the way, I doubt the rebuild will improve shift quality much.

First, make sure this time you fill with the ideal gear oil: I recommend Redline MT-90. Have your rebuilder do all new bearings and seals and ask you about what hard parts he recommends to replace. New hard parts from Nissan get very expensive quick unless this guy happens to have used parts on hand. The last thing you want is to have a rebuild bill above the cost of a brand new tranny.

Dave

its not that its notchy when it goes into gear...you have to ram it in even wiht the new clutch and everythign still in it. i dont ahve time to w8 for mt90 to come in. im already wihtout a car 4 days!

i think he said for a full rebuilt (everything) about 1300 bucks.

my friend zshopa had his trans rebuilt by him, so far so good.
MaxFanatik is offline  
Old 07-03-2008, 09:23 AM
  #23  
I love lamp.
iTrader: (24)
 
maximase86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 6,697
I wonder if your dogteeth are all hosed up. I guess you would find out when the tranny is opened. Was there any metal fragments in the gear oil?

S
maximase86 is offline  
Old 07-03-2008, 11:12 AM
  #24  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
MaxFanatik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Riverdale NJ
Posts: 932
NEW UPDATE:

The trans guy took the trans..... and he said notthing wrong with it...

Must be the slave probably leaking internally..... becasue theres pressure in the lines.
HIs w8in to get the trans back to put it on and start chanign out the slave to see if that helps, than master. any other suggestions?
MaxFanatik is offline  
Old 07-03-2008, 12:18 PM
  #25  
Maintenance Monster
iTrader: (10)
 
dgeesaman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Harrisburg, PA
Posts: 3,234
Do both master and slave. They tend to go bad together or one will quickly follow the other.
dgeesaman is offline  
Old 07-03-2008, 09:06 PM
  #26  
Whatchyou say?
iTrader: (5)
 
JtzMax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Springfield, Missouri
Posts: 1,870
I don't suggest rebuilding your own master either ... it's prone to fail again. Just speaking from previous experience on other cars but i've never had luck rebuilding one.
JtzMax is offline  
Old 07-04-2008, 04:03 AM
  #27  
Maintenance Monster
iTrader: (10)
 
dgeesaman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Harrisburg, PA
Posts: 3,234
It depends on the condition of the cylinder bore. If it's corroded or scratched, then yes you won't have much success just changing the cylinder seals.

Dave
dgeesaman is offline  
Old 07-04-2008, 08:08 AM
  #28  
Senior Member
iTrader: (27)
 
MDeezy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 33,720
Wow you went around the other way to fix this problem.

Its either leak in your lines, or master, and/or slave cylinder.

If this occurs a lot when your using the clutch a lot, sounds like the fluid is the lines is heated up pasts is capabilities. Upgrade to some better dot 3 brake fluid, and bleed the clutch.

adjust the grab point and see if the problem persists. If so get a new slave and re-bleed.
MDeezy is offline  
Old 07-04-2008, 08:56 AM
  #29  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
MaxFanatik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Riverdale NJ
Posts: 932
nah im not no rebuilding them getting new ones
MaxFanatik is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hez8813
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
11
03-12-2020 12:06 AM
bryants95max
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
10
10-02-2015 12:52 PM
BrandonCause
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
4
09-14-2015 10:41 PM
Maxboy23
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
6
09-04-2015 06:04 PM
jfl330
7th Generation Maxima (2009-2015)
4
09-04-2015 01:44 PM



Quick Reply: TRANS issue :(



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:55 AM.