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Old 08-15-2008 | 10:26 PM
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CV Axles.. what a PITA

Ok, so I received my new CV Axles from PartsAmerica.com today. I tried to install them; only to find out I think I was shipped the Manual version of the axles. The axles I received wouldn't seat correctly; so I put them up side by side against each other. They are alike in length; but the new PartsAmerica axle looks to be a bit larger in some spots. It also looks like the picture below;




the Axles I pulled off my car looked like this...



The only differences I could pick out from between the existing and the new axle I received, is the piece at the end of the joint assembly closer to the axle nut side has notches cut out of it; instead of being beveled like the existing one. I also noticed the new axle looks to be a bit larger in some spots like the metal cylinder

I think they are the wrong axles though; because my existing joint slid right back into place no problem.

I ordered GSP Axles Part# NCV53531/NCV53532

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Old 08-16-2008 | 09:17 AM
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Ok, can anyone help me here? 35 Views and no replies, little dissapointing. I had everything ripped apart last night; just to have to put it all back together again because the driver side axle wouldn't seat.

Here is a picture of an axle very similar to the one I have in my hands right now.. I marked what I noticed was different compared to the existing axle.



The old one doesn't have the notched gears; and the metal cylinder looks to be a bit larger than the existing. Is there a way to tell the difference between the Auto and 5 Speed Axle..

Why can't I get this ***** to seat in there correctly; I am using the retaining ring that was included with the axle; and some multi-purpose grease to help out. The farthest I got it to seat and I still had a good 1-2" left to push in but It wouldn't budge

these are GSP Axles from PartsAmerica.com...

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Old 08-16-2008 | 09:30 AM
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the notching is for ABS. you have to choose between auto and manual..and abs and non abs..and if your car has a LSD in it..or not. so many choices huh?
Old 08-16-2008 | 09:37 AM
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the notching is for ABS. you have to choose between auto and manual..and abs and non abs..and if your car has a LSD in it..or not. so many choices huh?
Totally agree

You need to have the full specs of the car before you can order the appropriate CV axles. I went through this whole ordeal several months ago.
I ran around between NAPA and Autozone and Pepboys.

Good Luck
Old 08-16-2008 | 09:39 AM
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ok, right I understand now.. but heres the kicker!

I ordered them from Advance.com and they said It was for a Automatic with/without ABS and without the LSD. The axles said they could be used on an car with/without ABS.

The funny thing is all the part numbers match even If its with LSD/without LSD and the same for Automatic/Manual.

Do I have the wrong axles or something? I made it a point to make sure I was receiving the Automatic/NonABS/NonLSD axles
Old 08-16-2008 | 10:08 AM
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well you got the ones that are for ABS..and so far it seems like you cant use them...I just got mine from autozone and it took me all but 5 minutes to replace them. So up to you to figure out what your going to do from here.

good luck.
Old 08-16-2008 | 10:26 AM
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If you don't have ABS, then those are not the proper axels, plain and simple. Return them and get the PROPER axels, then if you have problems, post them up.

As Johnny said, you need to specify whether the car is
1. AUTO/MANUAL
2. VLSD, LSD, or Open differential
3. ABS or no ABS
Old 08-16-2008 | 10:31 AM
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step one- return your axles
step two- www.raxles.com
step three- never buy axles from autozone ever again.
Old 08-16-2008 | 11:19 AM
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The only difference between abs and non abs is that ring with the "notches" you can swap the rings from one to the other many people do this when they cannot find an abs axel and vise versa. hold the alex in a clamp and slowly pry the rings off each axel and reinstall its not to hard and Ive never heard of anyone having a problem.
Old 08-16-2008 | 11:20 AM
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Why are you not just ordering from Raxles? All of the members (well ... most of) order from Raxles, cause they are the bomb. Seems to me like you either ordered the wrong part, or was shipped the wrong part. Either way ... put your old ones back in, return the "new" axles, and go to www.raxles.com
Old 08-16-2008 | 11:42 AM
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Thanks everyone..

I went up to Advance to return my axles after I read some responses.. I plead my case with the employee that was taking care of me; after I spoke with him for a good 10 minutes and running back to speak with his manager. They decided that the wrong parts were shipped to me from the warehouse in Phoenix. The part numbers matched up; but the parts didn't agree with the car. I also showed them how the part numbers were conflicting; as the Manual axles had the same PNs as the Auto axles

They quickly ran me through the refund process and I got a full refund.. They apologized and said that the warehouse has been F'n up lately.

I guess I will be trying an Autozone/Pepboys because I don't have the finances to go the Raxles route. I hear they are like $160 a peice
Old 08-16-2008 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxima98SE
Thanks everyone..

I went up to Advance to return my axles after I read some responses.. I plead my case with the employee that was taking care of me; after I spoke with him for a good 10 minutes and running back to speak with his manager. They decided that the wrong parts were shipped to me from the warehouse in Phoenix. The part numbers matched up; but the parts didn't agree with the car. I also showed them how the part numbers were conflicting; as the Manual axles had the same PNs as the Auto axles

They quickly ran me through the refund process and I got a full refund.. They apologized and said that the warehouse has been F'n up lately.

I guess I will be trying an Autozone/Pepboys because I don't have the finances to go the Raxles route. I hear they are like $160 a peice
i understand the finacial strain on the auto repairs that your embarking on. but let me re-state. www.raxles.com if you buy autozone/pepboys you run the risk of this happening again and the part IS NOT OEM QUALITY! trust us on this. go to the website call marty on monday tell him what you need and never worry again.
Old 08-16-2008 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxima98SE
Thanks everyone..

I went up to Advance to return my axles after I read some responses.. I plead my case with the employee that was taking care of me; after I spoke with him for a good 10 minutes and running back to speak with his manager. They decided that the wrong parts were shipped to me from the warehouse in Phoenix. The part numbers matched up; but the parts didn't agree with the car. I also showed them how the part numbers were conflicting; as the Manual axles had the same PNs as the Auto axles

They quickly ran me through the refund process and I got a full refund.. They apologized and said that the warehouse has been F'n up lately.

I guess I will be trying an Autozone/Pepboys because I don't have the finances to go the Raxles route. I hear they are like $160 a peice
should have just swapped the rings. thats what they do at the warehouse.

and I have a passenger side raxle Ive had for like 4months and it already clicking. no matter who you order from you may get a bad egg.
Old 08-16-2008 | 12:06 PM
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those new axles can be used for cars with or without abs, the reman. ones are specifically for abs or specifically for non abs. with the new ones you just have to remove the abs ring. but i guess thats over with, just for future reference.
Old 08-16-2008 | 01:38 PM
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I just replaced my axles (for the first time) and had no problems... because I researched them on the org first! I find it's better to know what you're talking about before jumping into a big repair like this. Search FTW
Old 08-16-2008 | 03:02 PM
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I've never done axles on an auto, but on the manual you can use ABS axles in a non ABS car just fine. The ABS ring looks exactly the same on the axle in your picture as it does on the 5 speed ABS ring, so I don't believe that poses any problem.

I don't understand the other part of your problem (you're saying that metal housing "seems" larger than on the old axle, but have you actually measured it?) You already returned them though so that's a non-factor now.

All 4th gens use the same passenger side axle - LSD, open, auto, manual, they're all the same.

The driver's side axle is different between auto and manual, and different between LSD and open diff, so there are 4 different axle shapes for the driver's side. You need to make sure you have the right one for the driver's side.
Old 08-17-2008 | 01:18 PM
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Just a heads up, Advance Auto part for Passenger side has the same part for all types.
ABS & non, LSD & non, automatic & manual. They also sell it as new, not refurb (GSP make). From what I can tell from reading here there never was an LSD Max (mines a '97) shipped to the US unless you bought the I30 so you shouldn't have to worry about that.

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Old 05-09-2009 | 07:51 AM
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I've been searching and reading on this board for a while now.

Got my EGR system cleaned out a few months ago (thanks to the info from this board) and yesterday put on some new CV axles.

Just thought I'd mention that I got my axles at Advance Auto for $60 each (NEW - and no core charge)

I know this thread is a little old, but I wanted to put a pic up of the new axles next to the old ones.

Old 05-09-2009 | 08:28 AM
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what appens if the boot is riped do you have to replace the whole axel or is there a way to just do the boot? people ask me that all the time when i tell em that theyre boot is torn, and i dont know what to tell them.
Old 05-09-2009 | 10:31 AM
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what appens if the boot is riped do you have to replace the whole axel or is there a way to just do the boot? people ask me that all the time when i tell em that theyre boot is torn, and i dont know what to tell them.
If the boot hasn't been torn for very long, and you can see that there is zero damage to the joint itself, you can do just the boot.

If you don't know when it ripped, or the joint is questionable, just replace the axle.

You'll have to pull the axle either way, to do it properly.
Old 05-11-2009 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackwind
step one- return your axles
step two- www.raxles.com
step three- never buy axles from autozone ever again.

I agree with this guy. I bought my axles from raxles. They were a perfect fit.
Old 05-11-2009 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackwind
step one- return your axles
step two- www.raxles.com
step three- never buy axles from autozone ever again.
yea spent 2x as much and when u need another ur gonna have to wait a week instead of getting one the same day..
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I agree with this guy. I bought my axles from raxles. They were a perfect fit.
+1. Raxles customer service is fantastic!
Old 05-11-2009 | 07:32 PM
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I replaced mine with NAPA stuff. They had the ABS ring on them. I didn't even take them off. Didn't have an issue.
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Originally Posted by JeepJeep
I've been searching and reading on this board for a while now.

Got my EGR system cleaned out a few months ago (thanks to the info from this board) and yesterday put on some new CV axles.

Just thought I'd mention that I got my axles at Advance Auto for $60 each (NEW - and no core charge)

I know this thread is a little old, but I wanted to put a pic up of the new axles next to the old ones.

Did you replace the seals also? If so then how much were the seals from advanced auto?
Old 05-11-2009 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jmax 626
Did you replace the seals also? If so then how much were the seals from advanced auto?
...can you not just go to http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/ and find out the price for yourself?

Old 05-11-2009 | 08:20 PM
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ooo ok so was the differens from
AT or 5SPD axels

1. years exp 95 to what or 95 to 99 w/e

2.does it matter if it is from a AT or 5spd

3.how do i know if my trenny is looking or non cuz some places ask if it is or not

im puting this cuz i have the same problem and my axel get here thise week soo i would like to know this steps for all i know my car is not abs

and another think that place were i got them from they tall me that it dint matter if they wore from a 5sp or AT tranny and year so is this true or false

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Old 05-11-2009 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 96max3189
ooo ok so was the differens from
AT or 5SPD axels

1. years exp 95 to what or 95 to 99 w/e

2.does it matter if it is from a AT or 5spd

3.how do i know if my trenny is looking or non

im puting this cuz i have the same problem and my axel get here thise week soo i would like to know this steps for all i know my car is not abs

and another think that place were i got them from they tall me that it dint matter if they wore from a 5sp or AT tranny and year

All of this can be found through searching, but...
  1. '95-'01.
  2. Driver's side does, yes.
  3. Stickies. Read up.
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