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Old 09-28-2008, 08:49 PM
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2 questions??

ok first question is...the oem plug that comes in the 4th gen max is that the pfr5g-11 plug the platinum?? and 2 when u install a new camshaft position sensor do u just unbolt the old one and slide the new one in and bolt it back up or is there sumthing u have to do?? cause i keep getting a check engine light for camshaft position sensor circut malfunction..i dont get it its a brand new cps sensor
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Old 09-28-2008, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by maxkid123
ok first question is...the oem plug that comes in the 4th gen max is that the pfr5g-11 plug the platinum??
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and 2 when u install a new camshaft position sensor do u just unbolt the old one and slide the new one in and bolt it back up or is there sumthing u have to do?? cause i keep getting a check engine light for camshaft position sensor circut malfunction..i dont get it its a brand new cps sensor
Yes, that's all you have to do. Start checking for continuity from the ECU to the actual sensor. Your wiring may have gone bad.

On a side note, I assume you reset and cleared your code for the hell of it, and it came back right away?



Oh, and here's the obligatory link we've given YOU a million times now.

http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...et-locked.html
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lol sorry dude i wont do that anymore..and thanks for the help...yeah i cleard the codes and it comes back
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:38 PM
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check the wireing, hope you didnt just pay for a sensor you didnt need...
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by maxkid123
ok first question is...the oem plug that comes in the 4th gen max is that the pfr5g-11 plug the platinum?? and 2 when u install a new camshaft position sensor do u just unbolt the old one and slide the new one in and bolt it back up or is there sumthing u have to do?? cause i keep getting a check engine light for camshaft position sensor circut malfunction..i dont get it its a brand new cps sensor
which camshaft sensor?
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:48 AM
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the one right by the coolent overflow...i didnt know there was more than one..
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whats the stock plug in a 01 max?? is it the same as 95 threw 99?
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:16 PM
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there isn't more thsan one. there are two ckp (crank position sensors) (one CKP and one CKP Ref (refferance). The CPS (camshaft position sensor) is just a bolt on, no adjusting needed.

It's probably not your CPS tripping the cel, I bet it's your KS. Sometimes the KS will trip the cel, sometimes not. The CPS and KS are linked, like the 2 CKP sensors. Maxima's btw are the only V6 from Nissan with a Ref CKP .... lol Go figure! lol

Are you reading the codes yourself, or haveing them read? What codes are you getting? Post them plz.
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:41 PM
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im reading the codes myself...idk the numbers for the code but its camshaft position sensor circuit malfunction....and my car has been runnin crappy latly idk what it is..maybe it is the knock sensor how do u know if ur car is running in safe mode??
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:49 PM
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safe mode for the ECU? It's not .... or you would you would know it - stuff wouldn't work.

Take your car to Autozone and let them pull the codes, LOOK at the OBDii reader and write down the codes. You're not going to get far by not knowing what codes you are pulling. Common sense here, right?
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:55 PM
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dude i have a scanner! i pulled the codes myself..thats wut i just told u...i just told u what code im pulling it says camshaft pos sensor circut malfunction.
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Old 09-29-2008, 04:38 PM
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Ok smartass ... you're on your own now.






I asked you what code it was, you told me you don't know, so .... have fun. It's a P xxxx code, if you don't get that, you just don't understand.


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Old 09-29-2008, 04:57 PM
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p0340...sorry dude didnt mean it like that.

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Old 09-29-2008, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JtzMax
there isn't more thsan one. there are two ckp (crank position sensors) (one CKP and one CKP Ref (refferance). The CPS (camshaft position sensor) is just a bolt on, no adjusting needed.

It's probably not your CPS tripping the cel, I bet it's your KS. Sometimes the KS will trip the cel, sometimes not. The CPS and KS are linked, like the 2 CKP sensors. Maxima's btw are the only V6 from Nissan with a Ref CKP .... lol Go figure! lol

Are you reading the codes yourself, or haveing them read? What codes are you getting? Post them plz.
KS never trips the CEL, and it's not linked to the CPS any more than it is to the EGR temperature sensor, or VSS; the only real link they have is that they both feed data to the ECU.
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huh ... I thought that the KS retards timing, and the CPS advances timing? Perhaps not then ... I stand corrected. As for the KS not tripping the cel, it does on Infinity (QX4) anyway. I understand that they both feed info to the ECU, but then what is the prupose of the CPS if not timing related? As for the KS, I know it works on a pizo electric / magnetic basis and denotes detonation ... I thought it related to timing as well. Doesn't it?

edit: The KS on the Infin tripped a P0325 code and a P0300 (random misfire) code as well ... so perhaps the P0325 tripped the CEL, and not the KS. Why doesn't the KS trip the CEL anyway? I know that a bad KS will make for a rough idle and hard starts.

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Old 09-29-2008, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JtzMax
huh ... I thought that the KS retards timing, and the CPS advances timing? Perhaps not then ... I stand corrected. As for the KS not tripping the cel, it does on Infinity (QX4) anyway. I understand that they both feed info to the ECU, but then what is the prupose of the CPS if not timing related? As for the KS, I know it works on a pizo electric / magnetic basis and denotes detonation ... I thought it related to timing as well. Doesn't it?

edit: The KS on the Infin tripped a P0325 code and a P0300 (random misfire) code as well ... so perhaps the P0325 tripped the CEL, and not the KS. Why doesn't the KS trip the CEL anyway? I know that a bad KS will make for a rough idle and hard starts.
Bad KS should cause no abnormal starting and/or idling conditions. Also, P0325 is a KS. The Infiniti you reference is really irrelevant to this discussion, as we're talking about an A32 ECU here.

On the A32 ECU, the KS will not list the CEL. The CPS doesn't advance anything, all it does is relay data about cam position, same as both CKPS just relay data about the crank position. The KS doesn't retard timing per se, but as the ECU tries to advance timing, if the KS detects knock the ECU will pull back to a lower timing value (as I understand it). If the KS isn't there or is just plain faulty, IIRC the ECU just goes to a hard-coded (and conservative) timing map.
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Old 09-30-2008, 05:27 AM
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Ok, thanks Pmohr!
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Old 09-30-2008, 06:44 AM
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The reason people think the KS code is related to other codes is because it is a ghost code. They get a code that trips the CEL, scan the codes, and they also have a KS code that had been there for a long time just never new it.

:sprint to knowing which code it is, as has already been stated there are 2 crank and one cam sensors.

There is however another cause that can trigger any of the 3, and that is a problem in the starting system. Only if your car doesn't want to crank properly and trips one of the cps codes occasionally, should you worry about ignoring it. If youre car doesn't want to start, or dies, and consistently trips one of the cps codes you should look into the wiring, sensor, and trigger wheel of that particular cps code. If it's the REF sensor on the crankpulley for example you could have a really deteriorated crank pulley ready to go at any second, or oil from a leaking pressure switch could have contaminated stuff. Just trying to give specific examples of how a code does not mean replace the sensor. This even holds true with the KS, I've been guilty of replacing good ones during the summer months not knowing the owner was running regular fuel.

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so, what is the 'start' issue that can cause a CEL trip? I understand that the KS will not trip the CEL so I'd say if it is tripped, there are other reasons. (at least on the A32 )
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:29 PM
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ok soo i got the dam camshaft code again it says bank 1 sensor a...what does that mean cause i know theres like more then one cps sensor
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