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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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5 speed swap pilot bushing question

swap the flywheels and ready to install clutch and align tool wont fit, do i need a pilot bushing or what. thanks for info

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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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You don't need a pilot bushing, it isn't used on the FWD VQ trans.

Alignment tool won't fit what, the clutch disc?
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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is this on a dek by any chance? when i recently did a 01 dek swap, i ran into the same issue. theres something different about that engine as compared to our de's when it comes to using the alignment tool. or something related to it being an auto originally (my engine was from an auto) im not sure exactly what and im sure ill hear "they are the same", but i had the same issue.
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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the alaignment tool fits the clutch but not the hole in the crankshaft
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by euromaxima
the alaignment tool fits the clutch but not the hole in the crankshaft
Too big, too small, what?
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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exactly, thats what happened to me. iirc the tool is too small.
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSpd85
exactly, thats what happened to me. iirc the tool is too small.
Odd. Mine worked perfectly, but I still had the bushing for the torque converter in the end of the crank:


I can definitely see how the alignment tool would just flail around with no bushing in the end of the crank, though.

My suggestion, just eyeball it. That or wrap electrical tape or somethign similar around the end of the alignment tool until it fits snug and straight into the crank.

The alignment tool I used was for a Z33 (I believe, but really it could be from pretty much any Nissan) but that shouldn't make a difference.
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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lol, do u have a picture for every instance?

u know, after looking at this picture, i dont remember whether it was too small or it didnt fit because of that bushing, dont remember, but i do know i did have to eyeball and get it as straight as possible, as u mentioned.

i see that FS: timing ring is no longer in your sig
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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lol, do u have a picture for every instance?

u know, after looking at this picture, i dont remember whether it was too small or it didnt fit because of that bushing, dont remember, but i do know i did have to eyeball and get it as straight as possible, as u mentioned.

i see that FS: timing ring is no longer in your sig
You'd be surprised, last I checked I've taken ~8000 some odd pics with my camera, 95% of them Maxima related.

Hell, I'm in a discussion with a guy who needs VLSD and HLSD pics, and I just happen to have high res shots of an HLSD from Merlyn's trans from the perfect angles.

Yea, someone bought it Thursday. I'm probably gonna go troll the yard again soon, see if there's any more 5 speeds.
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I installed the manual pilot bushing when I did my swap. I did it so it would be easier to install the clutch with the alignment tool.
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just eyeball it. it's not difficult to get it close enough to work.

you can also make your own alignment tool using a socket of appropriate size and wrapping tape around it.
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Originally Posted by pmohr
Odd. Mine worked perfectly, but I still had the bushing for the torque converter in the end of the crank:


I can definitely see how the alignment tool would just flail around with no bushing in the end of the crank, though.

My suggestion, just eyeball it. That or wrap electrical tape or somethign similar around the end of the alignment tool until it fits snug and straight into the crank.

The alignment tool I used was for a Z33 (I believe, but really it could be from pretty much any Nissan) but that shouldn't make a difference.
this is what mine looked like, do i need to remove the torque converter bushing and install the pilot bushing, i got one but it looks like i can put it in like it is not removing the auto bushing.
Old Jan 11, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by euromaxima
this is what mine looked like, do i need to remove the torque converter bushing and install the pilot bushing, i got one but it looks like i can put it in like it is not removing the auto bushing.
You'd need to remove the torque converter bushing before installing the pilot bushing, but as has been said there's no point. Just eyeball the alignment.
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