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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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95 SE 5sp weird vibration/rubbing noise

I just looked at a 95 white SE 5sp 134,5k for $2000. Car looks great overall, but it has this weird noise/vibration. The guy is the second owner and has had the car for 12-13 years. He said he took it to a dealer here and they couldn't tell him exactly what the problem is and quoted him $1200 for clutch, throwout bearing and that problem. I guess they told him it's some type of a bushing. I have never heard anything like that before and my car is auto so.....

The sound goes away when the clutch is pressed in. when driving I could here it and it seems to get a little worse at acceleration.

any ideas.
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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throw out bearing is old. needs replacement.
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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If you're sure the noise is from the trans, and the noise goes away when the clutch is pressed in, it would be the input shaft bearings.

The TOB will only make noise when the clutch is depressed, otherwise it sits stationary.

Is it a whining type sound?
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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No, I would say that the noise was not whining, but I am not very good at judging noises
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If you're sure the noise is from the trans, and the noise goes away when the clutch is pressed in, it would be the input shaft bearings.

The TOB will only make noise when the clutch is depressed, otherwise it sits stationary.

Is it a whining type sound?
the best way for me to explain the sound is if you can imagine if your wheel was rubbing on the plastic of the wheel well. It sounds like a rubbing noise
How much would it cost for parts to replace the bearing you are talking about and how hard is it to do DIY?

The car is like yours too

P.S. what if I was to swap the whole tranny? would that be cheaper? I kinda would like to have 00-01 with LSD
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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the best way for me to explain the sound is if you can imagine if your wheel was rubbing on the plastic of the wheel well. It sounds like a rubbing noise
How much would it cost for parts to replace the bearing you are talking about and how hard is it to do DIY?

The car is like yours too

P.S. what if I was to swap the whole tranny? would that be cheaper? I kinda would like to have 00-01 with LSD
A rubbing noise could be anything.

Have you checked gear oil level?

FWIW the only A33 with a VLSD is the '01 AE model, at least in the US. Good luck finding one of those.

The ISB(s) are rather costly to repair, due to having to split the trans apart.
Old Jun 4, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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so what you are saying is that it will be cheaper to get a known good tranny and put it in with a new clutch and TOB
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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97 Maxima SE.

I'm interested in the cost to replace or repair a LSD as well. I have had clurch chatter when starting out in 1st ever since I got my car 160K kms ago (factory clutch lasted to 285k kms). I recently put in a new clutch and it is no better and perhaps even worse (I had the flywheel machined). The mechanic now says it is likely the flywheel is warped or out of balance.

I am wondering if it is maybe the inpout shaft bearing though he said it felt smooth when he put in the clutch. Recently, there is some noise when the clutch is engaged (peddle out) but not much.

Need the experts here to provide some ideas. I don't mind spending the cash to fix the problem but if I am taking out the tranny again, I want to make sure I get the right thing fixed.
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 12:36 AM
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Sounds like my max, I've got a "lifter tick" sound when I'm accelerating or when the car is stationary with the clutch released. As soon as I press the clutch is the sound quiets down a bit but its still there. I ordered a rebuilt kit for the trans already. I replaced my TOB last July when I did the clutch. Sounds like the trans on that max. My trans is original and has 312k+ miles on it...it can probably go on for another long while but I wont let it.

When the car is left in gear and coming to a stop...did it sound like a clicky whining sound?

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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by whiteSE
throw out bearing is old. needs replacement.
Absolutely not - that is not his problem.

See pmorh's post for the determination of throwout bearing vs input shaft bearing noise. The throwout bearing does absolutely nothing unless your clutch pedal is pushed in. It just sits there not moving - so it can't make any noise when your clutch pedal is out.

djipka's noise is classic input shaft bearing. not a doubt in my mind. $1200 is not too bad for removal and reinstallation, rebuild, and a clutch. not bad at all (if you are unable to do it yourself that is).

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97 Maxima SE.

I'm interested in the cost to replace or repair a LSD as well. I have had clurch chatter when starting out in 1st ever since I got my car 160K kms ago (factory clutch lasted to 285k kms). I recently put in a new clutch and it is no better and perhaps even worse (I had the flywheel machined). The mechanic now says it is likely the flywheel is warped or out of balance.

I am wondering if it is maybe the inpout shaft bearing though he said it felt smooth when he put in the clutch. Recently, there is some noise when the clutch is engaged (peddle out) but not much.

Need the experts here to provide some ideas. I don't mind spending the cash to fix the problem but if I am taking out the tranny again, I want to make sure I get the right thing fixed.
dibquib - you wouldn't really "feel" the input shaft bearing. the clutch chatter you are experiencing has absolutely nothing to do with your input shaft bearings. If it bothers you enough to tear back into it, replace the flywheel. you might consider a used flywheel off the .org if you don't want to spring for a brand new one.

the noise you are hearing when your clutch pedal is out could be either input shaft bearing noise or just normal transmission noise. when the clutch pedal is out, the input shaft turns and you will hear a little bit of noise from the bearings and gears turning (normal noise). if the noise gets progressively louder over time then you likely have a bad input shaft bearing.

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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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dibquib - you wouldn't really "feel" the input shaft bearing. the clutch chatter you are experiencing has absolutely nothing to do with your input shaft bearings. If it bothers you enough to tear back into it, replace the flywheel. you might consider a used flywheel off the .org if you don't want to spring for a brand new one.

the noise you are hearing when your clutch pedal is out could be either input shaft bearing noise or just normal transmission noise. when the clutch pedal is out, the input shaft turns and you will hear a little bit of noise from the bearings and gears turning (normal noise). if the noise gets progressively louder over time then you likely have a bad input shaft bearing.
Much appreciated!! The noise is not very loud and hasn't been getting louder so it is likely just normal. My mechanic commented on how quiet my tranny is especially for its age. I will go the flywheel route and hopefully that will be the solution. What are the odds of getting a used one that is also warped? I have read here that it is rare that the OEM flywheels get warped but my experience would appear to indicate it can happen.
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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Would the Sachs flywheel from Partspro be a good replacement? It says OE. Is it the same quality as the oringial?
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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probably pretty unlikely that you'd get a warped one. flywheel problems are generally a result of poor resurfacing (or not having been resurfaced at all) rather than warpage. i don't know anything about the sachs flywheel, I didn't even know they made one for our cars. sachs makes good high end clutches though so it's probably decent.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
probably pretty unlikely that you'd get a warped one. flywheel problems are generally a result of poor resurfacing (or not having been resurfaced at all) rather than warpage. i don't know anything about the sachs flywheel, I didn't even know they made one for our cars. sachs makes good high end clutches though so it's probably decent.
Thanks.

The SACHS flywheel is only $70.00 which is substantially cheaper than the ones I have seen mentioned here so I was a bit hesitant. It says "high quality OE fit" so I suppose it is worth a try, SACHS is a good name.

Here's a link to the SACHS flywheel. Any thoughts?

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/se...294963897+5798

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