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Old Nov 26, 2001 | 06:20 PM
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Racing troubles

I own a 1995 GLE, and I just put on a Stillen exhaust and Stillen intake, and I timed my 0-60, and it was 8.6. I'm under the impression I'm supposed to run a 7.6 stock, and slightly better with my mods. I turned my overdive off and it didn't make a difference. I even turned my heat on for a while to get the heat out of my engine. I only had one guy in my car to time me, so I don't think that slowed me down that much. I change my oil every 3000 miles, and just had a tuneup. I've got 80,000 miles on my baby, and I'm wondering why my 0-60 is so slow. Help!
Old Nov 26, 2001 | 06:27 PM
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Re: Racing troubles

Originally posted by 95maxrider
I own a 1995 GLE, and I just put on a Stillen exhaust and Stillen intake, and I timed my 0-60, and it was 8.6. I'm under the impression I'm supposed to run a 7.6 stock, and slightly better with my mods. I turned my overdive off and it didn't make a difference. I even turned my heat on for a while to get the heat out of my engine. I only had one guy in my car to time me, so I don't think that slowed me down that much. I change my oil every 3000 miles, and just had a tuneup. I've got 80,000 miles on my baby, and I'm wondering why my 0-60 is so slow. Help!
when was the last time the plugs were changed?

fuel filter?

have you dyno'd your car?

tranny fluid change?

there are many things that could influence this.

does your tranny slip?
Old Nov 26, 2001 | 06:30 PM
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Uhhh.... how did you come to that number? Were you at a track? Using a stop watch while driving down your street?

And also, changing your oil every 3K is a waste of money. Read the "Oil and ATF Analysis Spreadsheet" up top for more info.
Old Nov 26, 2001 | 06:31 PM
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were u using a stopwatch? maybe he messed up when he timed you...
pushed it half a second too slow, & stopped it half a second too slow..
Old Nov 26, 2001 | 07:26 PM
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Get a 5 spd
Seriously, the 7.6 sec time was done at a certain temp., barometric pressure and humidity level. If you don't replicate those conditions exactly, not to mention the inaccuracy involved with the stop watch method, you're not going to end up with the same time
Old Nov 26, 2001 | 07:39 PM
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I seriously doubt that a stock GLE will do a 7.6 0-60. The fastest auto from that year tested is 8.0-8.2 and the 2000 & 2001 models are 7.8
I would think that your mods would get you into the 7.4-7.7 range, but the extra weight of your friend probably is what offset your times.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 12:09 AM
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You were under the wrong impression. An auto 4th gen would be hard pressed to run a 7.9 stock.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 06:48 AM
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Not to mention the GLE's drivetrain is fine-tuned to the average distance and stop-light frequency that it takes to get from one's house to the nearest grocery store.



Heh...seriously though...if you're all about racing and times, why in the world would you get a GLE/auto maxima to mod out? You'd have to be pretty bent on modding and doing things yourself to get impressive numbers afa times go, and if that's the case, it's probably a good idea to start with something a little cheaper and more mod-friendly.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 06:55 AM
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Are those the only mods you've done?? Could there also be big wheels in your setup now??

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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 11:41 AM
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ok, heres the deal. I got the car before I knew I was gonna try to race, and before I knew that I would have enough money to fix it up. I had my plugs changed 8,000 miles ago, and my transmission is sounding fine. And Motor Trend said a stock 95 GLE runs a 7.6, and yes, my friend was using a stopwatch. If any of you guys know where I can get a cheap SE in the DC area, write me back.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 01:04 PM
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The problem ----> Ghetto stopwatch..... Try it at the track and see what happens there. I'm sure most of that second was lost due to human error. Also, what are your mods? Systems can slow you down a lot, also, obese friends don't help
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 01:40 PM
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Or invest in a Gtech instead of the stopwatch.

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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by Nealoc187
You were under the wrong impression. An auto 4th gen would be hard pressed to run a 7.9 stock.
WTF?



4th Gen Auto MAXIMA'S run 0-60 in roughly 7.4-7.7 stock. RIGHT ?

MedicSonic Where are you???
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 02:45 PM
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Thats what I thought. I live outside of DC, in Kensington, MD. Why?
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by 95maxrider
Thats what I thought. I live outside of DC, in Kensington, MD. Why?
I really think you need a tune-up. You probubly have fuel injection problems, clogs, dirty filter, ect ect ect.

I don't know where these people get off thinking that an auto max will do a 7.9 when pressed hard ? Wtf ? Those numbers are bogus. The auto 4th Maxima will run low-mid 7's. This isn't a 'new' concept.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 06:04 PM
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I agree with Craig...

Originally posted by Craig Mack


I really think you need a tune-up. You probubly have fuel injection problems, clogs, dirty filter, ect ect ect.

I don't know where these people get off thinking that an auto max will do a 7.9 when pressed hard ? Wtf ? Those numbers are bogus. The auto 4th Maxima will run low-mid 7's. This isn't a 'new' concept.
Road and Track got a 1996 Maxima SE Automatic to run 0-60 MpH in 7.6 seconds and that is just about as reputable a source as possible. And the difference in times between the models is nearly if not completely negligable. My friend's BMW runs 0-60 in under 8 seconds and I pull on him every time so I know I'm under 8 as well.
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i say try it at a track or something not the stopwatch.. i really dont think its any of the plugs fuel filter and stuff
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by 95maxrider
ok, heres the deal. I got the car before I knew I was gonna try to race, and before I knew that I would have enough money to fix it up. I had my plugs changed 8,000 miles ago, and my transmission is sounding fine. And Motor Trend said a stock 95 GLE runs a 7.6, and yes, my friend was using a stopwatch. If any of you guys know where I can get a cheap SE in the DC area, write me back.
I stop watch timed my odyssey's 0-60 time, it doens't mean jack... I got 12seconds and I easily kill civics EX/LX.
Old Nov 27, 2001 | 08:11 PM
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Re: I agree with Craig...

Originally posted by Vyrus


Road and Track got a 1996 Maxima SE Automatic to run 0-60 MpH in 7.6 seconds and that is just about as reputable a source as possible. And the difference in times between the models is nearly if not completely negligable. My friend's BMW runs 0-60 in under 8 seconds and I pull on him every time so I know I'm under 8 as well.
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And the '95 GXE is supposed to be close around 7.4

Anyone who is saying this stuff about the 7.9sec+, where the heck are you getting this..
Old Nov 28, 2001 | 04:31 AM
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Not to mention the GLE's drivetrain is fine-tuned to the average distance and stop-light frequency that it takes to get from one's house to the nearest grocery store.



Heh...seriously though...if you're all about racing and times, why in the world would you get a GLE/auto maxima to mod out? You'd have to be pretty bent on modding and doing things yourself to get impressive numbers afa times go, and if that's the case, it's probably a good idea to start with something a little cheaper and more mod-friendly.
My 1995 GLE is FASTER than any other trim level out there, mod for mod. This has both been proven on the track and out on the street. The NE people can verify the quickness of my 'fat pig'.
Old Nov 28, 2001 | 04:33 AM
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BTW, comparing 1/4 mile times is ghey, only the 1/4 mile times counts.
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Medic - I dont doubt your magical GLE....didn't you do a manual conversion? If so, I think that's pretty cool.

My main point is, if you really want to get into racing and start going to the track and recording times....thinking of competing a bit, even if its something as simple as with friends or against your own old times even...wheres the competitive edge in any automatic? The variable factors involved in racing with a manual transmission, such as launching, shift points, and making shifts, help make the range of runs more variable...and help make that "perfect run" all that sweeter.

If you just want a few mods on your car for character, and the occassional friendly no-stakes street race, then I say an auto maxi is fine. But if you start getting particular with times and shaving .1-.2 off, stuff like that...well, on the norm (maybe not with medic's GLE), it would take a lot more mechanical know-how/effort/time/money to get an auto down to where a 5-speed could be. And most people that start out trying to race with an automatic are the guys that don't exactly have a whole lot of mechanical know-how/effort/time...and plus, the car is usually their daily driver, and its a lot easier for most people to learn about a car/do work on the car/etc on a car that they don't need fully operational in order to go to work the next day.
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For the record, I agree on the mid-7 0-60 for a stock 4th-gen auto maxi. Although a car w/some mileage on it might, for a few reasons, be a bit slower...but a mod or two should easily help make that up.
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Originally posted by blizz20oma
Medic - I dont doubt your magical GLE....didn't you do a manual conversion? If so, I think that's pretty cool.

My main point is, if you really want to get into racing and start going to the track and recording times....thinking of competing a bit, even if its something as simple as with friends or against your own old times even...wheres the competitive edge in any automatic? The variable factors involved in racing with a manual transmission, such as launching, shift points, and making shifts, help make the range of runs more variable...and help make that "perfect run" all that sweeter.

If you just want a few mods on your car for character, and the occassional friendly no-stakes street race, then I say an auto maxi is fine. But if you start getting particular with times and shaving .1-.2 off, stuff like that...well, on the norm (maybe not with medic's GLE), it would take a lot more mechanical know-how/effort/time/money to get an auto down to where a 5-speed could be. And most people that start out trying to race with an automatic are the guys that don't exactly have a whole lot of mechanical know-how/effort/time...and plus, the car is usually their daily driver, and its a lot easier for most people to learn about a car/do work on the car/etc on a car that they don't need fully operational in order to go to work the next day.
his GLE is 100% automatic now
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So the only things you can reccomend are getting a tune-up and going to a track to record my time?
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So the only things you can reccomend are getting a tune-up and going to a track to record my time? Are there any things in specific that could be messing me up that are in my engine?
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So the only things you can reccomend are getting a tune-up and going to a track to record my time? Are there any things in specific that could be messing me up that are in my engine?
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his GLE is 100% automatic now
It is? Hmm... I'll have to go and check.
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So the only things you can reccomend are getting a tune-up and going to a track to record my time? Are there any things in specific that could be messing me up that are in my engine?
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Thats what I thought. I live outside of DC, in Kensington, MD. Why?
Take it to Capital Raceway. And see how you are doing on the track. It's 10 bucks on friday nights. Show up around 5pm and you'll get a godd 4-5 runs in before too many people get there. Email me and I'll meet you there. Infact if you are interested, you can meet up with the rest of the DC Max guys afterwards.

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Take it to Capital Raceway. And see how you are doing on the track. It's 10 bucks on friday nights. Show up around 5pm and you'll get a godd 4-5 runs in before too many people get there. Email me and I'll meet you there. Infact if you are interested, you can meet up with the rest of the DC Max guys afterwards.

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Yeah man, I'm all for it! Where is it, and is it 10 bucks for all night, or per run? I've obviously never been there. Do you have to be a certain age to get in, I'm a young'n. Yeah man, that sounds damn good, if you can tell me where it is, I'll be there.
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you have to be 16 with a parent or 18 to drive.
10 bucks gets you as many go's that you have time for. You will have to wait your turn in line, but if you show up early, like at 5pm you can get 3 or 4 in pretty quickly
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