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Old 02-19-2010, 09:33 PM
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Car Won't Start

after i got my clutch replaced last week, the car has been kinda hard to start most of the time. sometimes it would start just fine but recently it wouldnt start at all. it is getting fuel as i can smell it coming out of the exhaust. plugs are NGK Irridums, might have 10k on them. also used the starter fluid and nothing. i was able to get a video of what its doing.

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Get the starter tested
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thats my first plan to do tomorrow then check the grounds. after that i dont know
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Hi, just throwing my 2 cents after 2 days getting my 97 SE auto running. It would crank and run great, then next time rattle and make horrendousnoises and no start. Tried a nedw battery and same thing. Found the starter would intermittanly drag huge and be too much for the battery to start.

Got a new starter with 2 year warranty, charged up the battery, new fuel filter (can't recall last change) cleaned really dirty K&N air filter, and turned the key. Started immediately. Drove for awhile till warm and then hammered it. Like a new car!!!

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sounds like your starter is trying to turn, hence the engine noise, battery sounds good too. why not take it back to the shop to make sure there isnt any loose wiring anywhere. doesnt seem to be a battery or starter issue (engine is turning)
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Originally Posted by usurped
Hi, just throwing my 2 cents after 2 days getting my 97 SE auto running. It would crank and run great, then next time rattle and make horrendousnoises and no start. Tried a nedw battery and same thing. Found the starter would intermittanly drag huge and be too much for the battery to start.

Got a new starter with 2 year warranty, charged up the battery, new fuel filter (can't recall last change) cleaned really dirty K&N air filter, and turned the key. Started immediately. Drove for awhile till warm and then hammered it. Like a new car!!!

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yeah its getting fuel. hopefully its only the starter

EDIT: or ground

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Old 02-19-2010, 10:59 PM
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sounds like your starter is trying to turn, hence the engine noise, battery sounds good too. why not take it back to the shop to make sure there isnt any loose wiring anywhere. doesnt seem to be a battery or starter issue (engine is turning)
didnt have a shop do it. could this be because the matting surface between the block and tranny werent sanded down? i heard a guy with a 5th gen did the same thing and it fixed the problem
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yea sounds like the starter!
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I can be wrong, but i just dont think its the starter. To me it sounds like its doing its job and something else isnt....in order for the car to fire up.
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Originally Posted by maXspeed96se
didnt have a shop do it. could this be because the matting surface between the block and tranny werent sanded down? i heard a guy with a 5th gen did the same thing and it fixed the problem

run a ground wire from negative on battery to the bolt on the starter that holds it to the transmission sounds like after u did your clutch its not grounding right on my transmission i had a lil rinkydink ground from the frame to tranny replaced and all is well

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just got back from O'Riley's and got the batter tested and it passed. cleaned the cam position sensor and sanded down the grounds for the starter and still nothing

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Originally Posted by maXspeed96se
just got back from O'Riley's and got the batter tested and it passed. cleaned the cam position sensor and sanded down the grounds for the starter and still nothing.
have you checked ects? they have been known to cause hard starts and stalling as a matter of fact i started my car today and it took several tries and and pumping the gas to get her started i popped the hood and the connector was lose i pushed it all the way down on the sensor plugged it all the way in an it started right up

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id check and run an extra ground as stated above. im not a believer of the whole mating surfaces deal, especially since it was a clutch job, not like you swapped a tranny from a junkyard with rust.
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add a ground from the neg battery terminal to the transmission housing
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More then likely is the starter!!!
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starter passed the test too. i do have a warranty on it but it would have to fail in order for me to get another one
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yo man...sometimes when ppl replace the clutch, they forget to sand the mating surfaces and it makes a bad ground. Add an extra ground to the transmission housing. PM Smai, he will tell u. If that dont work then that CKPS POS might need to be inspected for fouling, cleaned and/or replaced.
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Originally Posted by cashoit
yo man...sometimes when ppl replace the clutch, they forget to sand the mating surfaces and it makes a bad ground. Add an extra ground to the transmission housing. PM Smai, he will tell u. If that dont work then that CKPS POS might need to be inspected for fouling, cleaned and/or replaced.
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Originally Posted by cashoit
yo man...sometimes when ppl replace the clutch, they forget to sand the mating surfaces and it makes a bad ground. Add an extra ground to the transmission housing. PM Smai, he will tell u. If that dont work then that CKPS POS might need to be inspected for fouling, cleaned and/or replaced.
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Originally Posted by luke95gxe

THats the way
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cable cost like 6 bucks at advance auto
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Originally Posted by luke95gxe
cable cost like 6 bucks at advance auto
thats what up bro. thanks
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You said the clutch was recently replaced? Check and properly adjust the pedal freeplay make sure the clutch is fully disengaging when you go to try and start it
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Is your clutch peddal stif or spongy...iam asking cuz when I got my clutch changed on my 95 max it did the same thing...turned out it was my slave cylinder... I replaced that then my peaddal got a little stiffer witch help it kick over...after a couple of weaks I had to replace the master pump cylinder witch is near the brake cylinder...but it was worth it... it ran like a dream after that...
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Originally Posted by BlueBlackMax
You said the clutch was recently replaced? Check and properly adjust the pedal freeplay make sure the clutch is fully disengaging when you go to try and start it
didnt mess with the adjustment at all. it started fine for the first day or so and then it just got worse and worse from there.
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Originally Posted by GMAX86
Is your clutch peddal stif or spongy...iam asking cuz when I got my clutch changed on my 95 max it did the same thing...turned out it was my slave cylinder... I replaced that then my peaddal got a little stiffer witch help it kick over...after a couple of weaks I had to replace the master pump cylinder witch is near the brake cylinder...but it was worth it... it ran like a dream after that...
feels normal. i can bump start it and it will drive fine. problem is just getting it to start
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Originally Posted by maXspeed96se
didnt mess with the adjustment at all. it started fine for the first day or so and then it just got worse and worse from there.
Well it cant hurt to check it just grab a ruler, maybe the person who did your clutch didn't adjust it right. Also, some clutches need adjustment after the first 1500 miles
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good news

i got the car started. it was the ground. i went to advance and got a negative battery ground and grounded it to the tranny and it started right up



thanks everybody for the advice and thanks luke for the pics. that exactly what i did and it works great. thanks bro
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Originally Posted by maXspeed96se
good news

i got the car started. it was the ground. i went to advance and got a negative battery ground and grounded it to the tranny and it started right up



thanks everybody for the advice and thanks luke for the pics. that exactly what i did and it works great. thanks bro
glad it worked out for u no prob on the pics gla i could help
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nice!

another win for the org
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hey i have the same problem i jsut got my clutch done and now my car is doing the same thing were did u run the ground from the tranny to the negative from the battery?
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this should seriously be stickied. i seen numerous threads about this. ima shoot a admin about this.
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Originally Posted by sinistermaxima96
hey i have the same problem i jsut got my clutch done and now my car is doing the same thing were did u run the ground from the tranny to the negative from the battery?

See pics above.

Jus run a wire from the negative battery terminal to a transmission housing bolt. Any bolt will do.
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Originally Posted by cashoit
See pics above.

Jus run a wire from the negative battery terminal to a transmission housing bolt. Any bolt will do.
make sure the sand where the wire is going to make contact a wire brush will do
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thanks alot ppl i did it and it worked
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Originally Posted by sinistermaxima96
thanks alot ppl i did it and it worked
glad we could help
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Originally Posted by maXspeed96se
glad we could help
got to love the org
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i just finish puting in a light weight flywheel and new clutch,and now da car is thombleing but won't start,i tried da ground thing still nada,can i have some input {plz} bfor i take every thing back down .
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Originally Posted by keil
i just finish puting in a light weight flywheel and new clutch,and now da car is thombleing but won't start,i tried da ground thing still nada,can i have some input {plz} bfor i take every thing back down .
there is a sensor that bolts to the tranny check that to make sure it not dirty and conected that will cuz a no start
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