View Poll Results: What should I do first?
HID Retros
1
1.92%
Lower It
32
61.54%
Navigation
1
1.92%
00VI
15
28.85%
New Wheels
3
5.77%
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What "real" mods first?
11-17-2010, 03:30 PM
#41
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I would say if your going performance:
--MEVI(easier to install than a 00vi less problems if your not that mechanically inclined)
--Cattman y and 3" exhaust if your thinking F/I in the long run ( always be prepared so you don't spend $$$ on more than one exhaust) I'm learning the hard way.
--Keep your headers for F/I
--Then you can do all the visual drop, rims, tint, body kit, etc.
--Then Forced Induction FTW!!!!
--MEVI(easier to install than a 00vi less problems if your not that mechanically inclined)
--Cattman y and 3" exhaust if your thinking F/I in the long run ( always be prepared so you don't spend $$$ on more than one exhaust) I'm learning the hard way.
--Keep your headers for F/I
--Then you can do all the visual drop, rims, tint, body kit, etc.
--Then Forced Induction FTW!!!!
11-17-2010, 08:25 PM
#44
Here's some info on tuning and tuning devices. http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ng-thread.html
All in all it depends if you just want a simple afr tune or if you really want to wake it up with advanced timing and extended rev limiter.
All in all it depends if you just want a simple afr tune or if you really want to wake it up with advanced timing and extended rev limiter.
11-17-2010, 08:32 PM
#45
Here's some info on tuning and tuning devices. http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ng-thread.html
All in all it depends if you just want a simple afr tune or if you really want to wake it up with advanced timing and extended rev limiter.
All in all it depends if you just want a simple afr tune or if you really want to wake it up with advanced timing and extended rev limiter.
As far as tuning is concerned, the most cost-efficient option is piggybacking the ECU, and intercepting the desired signals to tune the car to your liking.
A'pexi SAFC2/SAFC Neo/VAFC - Tunes AFR by adjusting airflow signal (may cause timing changes due to that), SAFC2 & Neo allow rescaling for larger MAF housings.
GReddy e-Manage Blue - Tunes AFR using direct injector signal (no timing changes), raises rev limit, allow rescaling for larger MAF housings as well.
GReddy e-Manage Ultimate - All the capabilities of the Blue as well as launch control, and ignition timing (big plus for getting the most out of boosted/more heavy all motor setups).
Shoot me a PM if you're interested in an SAFC2 or e-Blue.
11-17-2010, 08:45 PM
#46
@ schmellyfart - Thanks for the link - that's an awesome read!
@ MoncefA33 - thanks for posting the thread that schmellyfart linked to.
So the EB doesn't control ignition timing? I thought I read that it did. So for a starter piggyback to keep cost under control, a SAFC2 or eBlue would be a good place to start?
@ MoncefA33 - thanks for posting the thread that schmellyfart linked to.
So the EB doesn't control ignition timing? I thought I read that it did. So for a starter piggyback to keep cost under control, a SAFC2 or eBlue would be a good place to start?
Last edited by Cebby; 11-17-2010 at 08:50 PM.
11-17-2010, 08:59 PM
#47
@ schmellyfart - Thanks for the link - that's an awesome read!
@ MoncefA33 - thanks for posting the thread that schmellyfart linked to.
So the EB doesn't control ignition timing? I thought I read that it did. So for a starter piggyback to keep cost under control, a SAFC2 or eBlue would be a good place to start?
@ MoncefA33 - thanks for posting the thread that schmellyfart linked to.
So the EB doesn't control ignition timing? I thought I read that it did. So for a starter piggyback to keep cost under control, a SAFC2 or eBlue would be a good place to start?
Yes. I'd recommend the eBlue if you plan on boosting the car eventually.
11-17-2010, 10:05 PM
#49
My understanding of the JWT is that it's a reprogrammed oem ECU with no adjustment in it - is that correct? Could I (should I) use a piggyback (e-manage blue, or similar) to have flexibility to modify the profile as the engine mods change over time?
Thank you for the list of mods and HP gains - that helps!
Thank you for the list of mods and HP gains - that helps!
I would say if your going performance:
--MEVI(easier to install than a 00vi less problems if your not that mechanically inclined)
--Cattman y and 3" exhaust if your thinking F/I in the long run ( always be prepared so you don't spend $$$ on more than one exhaust) I'm learning the hard way.
--Keep your headers for F/I
--Then you can do all the visual drop, rims, tint, body kit, etc.
--Then Forced Induction FTW!!!!
--MEVI(easier to install than a 00vi less problems if your not that mechanically inclined)
--Cattman y and 3" exhaust if your thinking F/I in the long run ( always be prepared so you don't spend $$$ on more than one exhaust) I'm learning the hard way.
--Keep your headers for F/I
--Then you can do all the visual drop, rims, tint, body kit, etc.
--Then Forced Induction FTW!!!!
11-17-2010, 10:09 PM
#50
Looks like I came in at the right time
As far as tuning is concerned, the most cost-efficient option is piggybacking the ECU, and intercepting the desired signals to tune the car to your liking.
A'pexi SAFC2/SAFC Neo/VAFC - Tunes AFR by adjusting airflow signal (may cause timing changes due to that), SAFC2 & Neo allow rescaling for larger MAF housings.
GReddy e-Manage Blue - Tunes AFR using direct injector signal (no timing changes), raises rev limit, allow rescaling for larger MAF housings as well.
GReddy e-Manage Ultimate - All the capabilities of the Blue as well as launch control, and ignition timing (big plus for getting the most out of boosted/more heavy all motor setups).
As far as tuning is concerned, the most cost-efficient option is piggybacking the ECU, and intercepting the desired signals to tune the car to your liking.
A'pexi SAFC2/SAFC Neo/VAFC - Tunes AFR by adjusting airflow signal (may cause timing changes due to that), SAFC2 & Neo allow rescaling for larger MAF housings.
GReddy e-Manage Blue - Tunes AFR using direct injector signal (no timing changes), raises rev limit, allow rescaling for larger MAF housings as well.
GReddy e-Manage Ultimate - All the capabilities of the Blue as well as launch control, and ignition timing (big plus for getting the most out of boosted/more heavy all motor setups).
Don't forget the tuning sticky in the All Motor forum....here.
11-18-2010, 06:40 AM
#51
11-18-2010, 06:43 AM
#52
In the interest of keeping some of this project budget under control, I'll go EB for now. It appears that I would just need an optional ignition harness to control timing.
11-18-2010, 07:28 AM
#53
As of this AM, here's how the voting stands:
Leading the way - "Lower It" with 20 votes and "00VI" in second place with 10 votes. (1 for HID's, 2 for wheels, and 0 for Nav).
Lot's of great info in this thread (combined with searching and learning from other threads on the ORG!). Thank you to all that have contributed!!
I was busy yesterday/last night...
Purchased a WS Y, 00VI setup, EB, and D2 CO's. (I may look for a "reasonable" catback, but we'll see how it sounds with the OE replacement that's on there).
Now I just need to fix my rust prior to all this stuff coming...
Leading the way - "Lower It" with 20 votes and "00VI" in second place with 10 votes. (1 for HID's, 2 for wheels, and 0 for Nav).
Lot's of great info in this thread (combined with searching and learning from other threads on the ORG!). Thank you to all that have contributed!!
I was busy yesterday/last night...
Purchased a WS Y, 00VI setup, EB, and D2 CO's. (I may look for a "reasonable" catback, but we'll see how it sounds with the OE replacement that's on there).
Now I just need to fix my rust prior to all this stuff coming...
11-18-2010, 07:31 AM
#54
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As of this AM, here's how the voting stands:
Leading the way - "Lower It" with 20 votes and "00VI" in second place with 10 votes. (1 for HID's, 2 for wheels, and 0 for Nav).
Lot's of great info in this thread (combined with searching and learning from other threads on the ORG!). Thank you to all that have contributed!!
I was busy yesterday/last night...
Purchased a WS Y, 00VI setup, EB, and D2 CO's. (I may look for a "reasonable" catback, but we'll see how it sounds with the OE replacement that's on there).
Now I just need to fix my rust prior to all this stuff coming...
Leading the way - "Lower It" with 20 votes and "00VI" in second place with 10 votes. (1 for HID's, 2 for wheels, and 0 for Nav).
Lot's of great info in this thread (combined with searching and learning from other threads on the ORG!). Thank you to all that have contributed!!
I was busy yesterday/last night...
Purchased a WS Y, 00VI setup, EB, and D2 CO's. (I may look for a "reasonable" catback, but we'll see how it sounds with the OE replacement that's on there).
Now I just need to fix my rust prior to all this stuff coming...
Btw, what made you want to get 00vi and not MEVI?
11-18-2010, 08:08 AM
#55
From what I've read, that while the 00VI is tougher to install, it's a better intake. Also read that with the MEVI low end torque suffers.
Plus, I knew someone who had a complete 00VI for sale, so that made it easy on me.
Plus, I knew someone who had a complete 00VI for sale, so that made it easy on me.
11-18-2010, 10:46 AM
#57
Does the wideband o2 sensor go in a stock location, or do I need to weld a bung on the exhaust specially for it. If so, where should it go?
Is there a widely accepted model that works best for us?
11-18-2010, 11:02 AM
#58
i got my GED when i was 34. trust me i am smart =) reaaalllllly smart.
11-18-2010, 11:02 AM
#59
11-18-2010, 01:11 PM
#61
If your motor is solid then start working on the frame/suspension/steering, that's the most important thing next to your engine/tranny. New wheels are always great and are the biggest/most important exterior upgrade on any ride but you should always finish the frame/suspension/steering work first. The other stuff I wouldn't bother til later in the game.
11-18-2010, 01:56 PM
#62
I guess that's pretty important to know! I did some research after seeing your post, but info surrounding this wasn't very apparent (a lot of this stuff is new to me).
Does the wideband o2 sensor go in a stock location, or do I need to weld a bung on the exhaust specially for it. If so, where should it go?
Is there a widely accepted model that works best for us?
Does the wideband o2 sensor go in a stock location, or do I need to weld a bung on the exhaust specially for it. If so, where should it go?
Is there a widely accepted model that works best for us?
There's a handful of widebands that people use depending on their tuning device. Since you are getting an EB, I think you will be fine with most standalone wideband units such as the AEM UEGO and the Innovate LC-1.
11-18-2010, 02:17 PM
#63
If you wanna datalog the wideband signal on the EB, you will need to check the availability of the GReddy AFR harness. If that doesn't work, look into a Zeitronix wideband, that logs RPM, AFR, throttle%, etc by itself without extra hardware.
Oh and another note on the coilovers. Slam it!
Oh and another note on the coilovers. Slam it!
Last edited by MoncefA33; 11-18-2010 at 02:20 PM.
11-18-2010, 11:24 PM
#64
11-18-2010, 11:28 PM
#65
I guess that's pretty important to know! I did some research after seeing your post, but info surrounding this wasn't very apparent (a lot of this stuff is new to me).
Does the wideband o2 sensor go in a stock location, or do I need to weld a bung on the exhaust specially for it. If so, where should it go?
Is there a widely accepted model that works best for us?
Does the wideband o2 sensor go in a stock location, or do I need to weld a bung on the exhaust specially for it. If so, where should it go?
Is there a widely accepted model that works best for us?
There is no one wideband that works best for our cars. Any good wideband will do the trick. AEM, PLX, FJO etc.
11-19-2010, 08:52 PM
#66
If you wanna datalog the wideband signal on the EB, you will need to check the availability of the GReddy AFR harness. If that doesn't work, look into a Zeitronix wideband, that logs RPM, AFR, throttle%, etc by itself without extra hardware.
Oh and another note on the coilovers. Slam it!
Oh and another note on the coilovers. Slam it!
11-19-2010, 09:05 PM
#67
11-20-2010, 06:48 PM
#68
http://www.plxdevices.com/wideband.html
http://www.aemelectronics.com/wideba...fuel-gauge-25/
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...cd92e41b445669
The possibilities are endless.
11-21-2010, 05:07 AM
#69
OK - not really interested in extra gauges, so looks like the PLX SM-AFR or the Innovate model would work be up my alley. (I will ride around with a netbook to datalog/tune initially tho) Got the A/F harness ordered.
I appreciate all the insight - I needed to learn this stuff for another project, so this is an awesome education...
EDIT:
After reading some more, it appears that the LC-1 is a highly regarded setup, so I'll probably go with that one.
I appreciate all the insight - I needed to learn this stuff for another project, so this is an awesome education...
EDIT:
After reading some more, it appears that the LC-1 is a highly regarded setup, so I'll probably go with that one.
Last edited by Cebby; 11-21-2010 at 06:40 AM.
11-22-2010, 04:39 AM
#73
I'm planning to add some plugs into the harness for the EB so this thing can be easily removed (or a different unit added) without additional work to the harness. (I realize that the EU and others probably use more connections, so I'll plan for that)
11-22-2010, 08:51 PM
#75
I'm really leaning toward something without a gauge - figuring I'll ride with a netbook during tuning phase and then when I make the jump to F/I go with some display that can toggle through multiple inputs. I prefer a stealthy interior as much as possible.
11-22-2010, 10:11 PM
#76
Received my W/S Y pipe today. Should I weld the Wideband bung between the flex and the cat connection? Or is this a better location (shown from an old F/S post by NWP)?
My concern is that if I get it too close to the cat, I might get some false readings.
My concern is that if I get it too close to the cat, I might get some false readings.
Last edited by Cebby; 11-22-2010 at 10:45 PM.
11-22-2010, 10:27 PM
#77
i think the best thing to do is go after the one thats hardest to get ahold of while you can...i think with the way the maxima community is growing, atleast on here, more and more people are doing 00vis, pretty soon they might be harder to come by aside from buying complete deks. i mean good luck finding a mevi nowadays. u will always have many options on lowering, hids, gps, etc.
11-22-2010, 10:35 PM
#78
Have folks had issues with the gauge or the sensor? Are there any that have performed well and have had no reported issues?
I'm planning to add some plugs into the harness for the EB so this thing can be easily removed (or a different unit added) without additional work to the harness. (I realize that the EU and others probably use more connections, so I'll plan for that)
I'm planning to add some plugs into the harness for the EB so this thing can be easily removed (or a different unit added) without additional work to the harness. (I realize that the EU and others probably use more connections, so I'll plan for that)
No personal experience with AEM, but I've heard nothing but good things here, and on the other forums I frequent.
11-22-2010, 10:36 PM
#79
Weld it as shown in the pic you attached. Right after the Y intersection is best.
11-22-2010, 10:40 PM
#80
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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i think the best thing to do is go after the one thats hardest to get ahold of while you can...i think with the way the maxima community is growing, atleast on here, more and more people are doing 00vis, pretty soon they might be harder to come by aside from buying complete deks. i mean good luck finding a mevi nowadays. u will always have many options on lowering, hids, gps, etc.
Doesnt courtesyparts.com still sell mevi kits?