Anyone have driving issues w/ "performance" clutches?
#1
Anyone have driving issues w/ "performance" clutches?
My Exedy OEM clutch went out on me, so now that i have the s/c and plan on 3.5 swapping in the near future, i decided to go with a stage 3 clutch. Its the XTD stage 3, 6 puck clutch on ebay, a lot of people will say you got what you paid for and blah blah, but i did my research and theres actually lots of good reviews on them, even on this site from reputable members. so i went with it.
i feel like a punk for saying this, but this thing is whooping my azz. ive got 100miles on it so far in a week, and man, i dont think im getting it. theres like no slipping this clutch whatsoever. i guess im still trying to take off like i used to but it grabs and bogs. ive had it bog and die a few times. not stall out per se, but actually bog down and die once the clutch grabs. in some crazy way, in the past two days i think ive fouled a plug because of this lol. when i take off it chatters like hell and the whole drivetrain shakes. its quite scary actually. i feel like im gonna break something. the only way ive found to minimize this and take off somewhat smoothly is by pulling off at 2k rpms haha. anyways, needless to say, im kinda regretting going with a stage 3. im thinking stage 1 woulve been ok but idk. maybe ill get used to it and figure it out or itll ease up on its own.
anyways, anyone else have similar experiences with their performance clutches? is it gonna get better? as far as the chattering goes? or is this something that i have to change in myself?
i feel like a punk for saying this, but this thing is whooping my azz. ive got 100miles on it so far in a week, and man, i dont think im getting it. theres like no slipping this clutch whatsoever. i guess im still trying to take off like i used to but it grabs and bogs. ive had it bog and die a few times. not stall out per se, but actually bog down and die once the clutch grabs. in some crazy way, in the past two days i think ive fouled a plug because of this lol. when i take off it chatters like hell and the whole drivetrain shakes. its quite scary actually. i feel like im gonna break something. the only way ive found to minimize this and take off somewhat smoothly is by pulling off at 2k rpms haha. anyways, needless to say, im kinda regretting going with a stage 3. im thinking stage 1 woulve been ok but idk. maybe ill get used to it and figure it out or itll ease up on its own.
anyways, anyone else have similar experiences with their performance clutches? is it gonna get better? as far as the chattering goes? or is this something that i have to change in myself?
#2
Yep, my Exedy Stage 2 (6 puck) chattered up a storm like no other...see the video below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOWe9P7z598
This was 2 years ago, when I had a s/c kit in the works...long story short, I sold the s/c and took this clutch out and put in a 5th gen OE. No chattering whatsoever now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOWe9P7z598
This was 2 years ago, when I had a s/c kit in the works...long story short, I sold the s/c and took this clutch out and put in a 5th gen OE. No chattering whatsoever now.
#3
dang, i wanna say mine isnt that bad but its pretty close to it. my exhaust is banging around down there too.
i really wanna think i just need to change my driving. sometimes it does it, sometimes it doesnt do it as bad. im just concentrating on not letting it happen that im launching differently every time i think. i just need to find that one method that works, aside from revving up to 2k rpms. ive heard this is a 6 puck thing...
i really wanna think i just need to change my driving. sometimes it does it, sometimes it doesnt do it as bad. im just concentrating on not letting it happen that im launching differently every time i think. i just need to find that one method that works, aside from revving up to 2k rpms. ive heard this is a 6 puck thing...
#4
u have to get use to it buddy i have had a spec stage 3 6 puck on my 01 ae and it also chatters i was like WTF and if u have solid mounts its even worse. after u break it in it should stop a lil bit.. now i have a exedy stage 2 3 puck it does the same this clutches are made to hold power and to grab quickly on the track they not made to be driven everyday but i most say once u get use to it u wont feel that chatter no more... break it in properly thats all..
#5
I have/had the ACT 6 puck and did the exact same thing, although not near as bad as the video, but was still pretty bad (unless I would launch at 2K or more like you were/are). I had also put it in along with freshly rebuilding the trans myself and was like "No, I didnt do all that work just to have a damn clutch blow it all apart on me." So I guess you could say to my benefit the rear main wasnt installed right when I had it all apart the first time, so i had to replace it again and put the OEM back in it. MUCH happier now. I will however be getting the solid ACT disc to match their pressure plate when I do my 3.5 swap. Friend has the exact same set-up in his SRT and the solid disc is MUCH better.
#6
ok, so after 150ish miles, the chattering is slightly going away, but now it bucks like hell when i pull off. I guess im still not giving it enough gas lol. this is tough stuff man....i hope either it gets better/easier or i learn something really soon cuz im gonna break something. ive never had the car jump and bounce like it does now, i look like an idiot on the streets. *sigh*
#7
Performance clutches are generally of the on/off type, meaning that there is no slipping them for smooth takeoffs. You're using something that is made to hold 100%+ of the original design so it has to be aggressive. This is where something like an ACT clutch with their very high clamping force pressure plates and less aggressive friction disc have an advantage. Your leg might get tired but the engagement is certainly improved. I would never run a solid disc puck style clutch on a street (daily) driven car for this reason.
#8
What do ur motor mounts look like? if they are stock it can cause some drivablity issues, I would have just gone for a Stage 2+ most are good till alittle over 400wtq which should be plenty, i have one currently, its tearing these stock mounts to pieces, i have some clutch chatter but i can slip the clutch alittle.
Stage 1 with an S/C would definitely slip, especially once u add a 3.5 into the equation.
Stage 1 with an S/C would definitely slip, especially once u add a 3.5 into the equation.
Last edited by Crusher103; 12-05-2010 at 08:26 PM.
#9
yeah, its definitely on/off. very little room for slipping, i mean tiny. my motor mounts are stock/original. i think i just misjudged the whole clutch situation. i guess i was thinking a higher stage clutch would just make the pedal stiffer, harder to shift, etc. but in fact its really actually lighter up until the engagement point, where its not stiff at all to be honest. so that doesnt bother me one bit. i just need to practice, try new techniques. or start looking for a stage 2. its sad when u have to google how to take off from a stop light lol.
#11
ok, so i think i may have had a breakthrough lol. like i said before the chattering had minimized a lot, but it was bucking like hell. i blamed that on the clutch, but hopefully (after tinkering with it tonight) it has nothing to do with the clutch. apparently all my chattering and bouncing around the first week or so knocked my MAF sensor wiring loose, so it was cutting out at 2k rpms and bouncing the whole car. tonight i started the car and started touching wires and when i got to the maf wiring the car shut off, so i messed with it a little and the drive home was beautiful!! so hopefully thats the end of my stage 3 clutch saga. its all good and i think i got the hang of it yeahhhh
#17
well the bucking which came like well over a week later turned out to be the loose maf wiring. all the other chattering and bogging and crap was the clutch which ive almost gotten completely used to i think.
its a sprung clutch btw
its a sprung clutch btw
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