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Old 04-21-2011, 08:23 AM
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Multiple Misfire

Ok i been going back and forth with the spark plugs which i have the Gpower NGKs so would you say i just need to change all my coil pack
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Any codes? A knock sensor would cause multiple misfires also.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:34 AM
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Its P0300/0701 I also changed the KS when i did the plugs and reset cleared all the codes to see which 1s will back up
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Originally Posted by kiecas17
A knock sensor would cause multiple misfires also.
Negative..


Coils are probably to blame.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:43 AM
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Thats my next project then, you know some good prices for them
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:46 AM
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Thats my next project then, you know some good prices for them
you can go really cheap and get used ones but that wouldnt really make much sense.

amazon and ebay are cheapest, then autozone or advanced is the next cheapest.

usually with coil packs you want to replace all at the same time, or at least one bank then the other.
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I see you also have a missing gas cap and an evap code.
Tell us the sequence of events.

A bad enough leak in an evap line would cause a lean miss affecting all cylinders. Its not likely that multiple coils went bad at the same time. I'm guessing that all your issues are related. It might be as simple as putting a gas cap on, or replacing the canister valve.
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From the gas cap thread;

"Im getting a cap soon but the code was popping up before i lost my cap which when i decided to see if its the right cap and make sure its closed thats when i found out it was missing.
I do have some fumes coming into the car"

You do have a bad leak causing a lean miss, I would bet my paycheck on it. What is your Idle speed?
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Just under 1rpms, I had the misfire and the evap codes before I lost my gas cap which I figured I should change the coils out and replace my evap vavle
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
Negative..


Coils are probably to blame.

IDK I had that problem, where ks went then I got a lot of misfires.
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Originally Posted by kiecas17
IDK I had that problem, where ks went then I got a lot of misfires.
KS WILL NOT cause a misfire. Bad KS will result in loss of power and lower MPG due to retarded timing. If you had a bad KS and a misfire they were not related. A bad primary O2 will cause a lean miss and triggers a false KS code. Could be what u had.
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KS WILL NOT cause a misfire. Bad KS will result in loss of power and lower MPG due to retarded timing. If you had a bad KS and a misfire they were not related. A bad primary O2 will cause a lean miss and triggers a false KS code. Could be what u had.
I got a code for a bad KS and O2sensor and muliple misfire code. The car stalls after driving 1 1/2 miles and than starts up again and runs.. Do you think it is from the the O2 sensor? I changed the plugs about a year ago. Also had an insufficient coolant temp code but I need a radiator. I triied JB waterweld and it didnt work,

Please help. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by eagleman
I got a code for a bad KS and O2sensor and muliple misfire code. The car stalls after driving 1 1/2 miles and than starts up again and runs.. Do you think it is from the the O2 sensor? I changed the plugs about a year ago. Also had an insufficient coolant temp code but I need a radiator. I triied JB waterweld and it didnt work,

Please help. Thanks.
If its a primary o2 sensor, change it first. If its downstream, there is no way its causing your issue. Clean TB and MAF. others will chime in.
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Some people may confuse hesitation with a misfire, a bad KS will make your car hesitate quite a bit, but a misfire is more violent... Unless they're the same thing? Help me out here, when I had a bad knock sensor the car would "bog" or "hesitate" under heavy acceleration but not quite misfire (which to my knowledge you'd get a popping sound).
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Some people may confuse hesitation with a misfire, a bad KS will make your car hesitate quite a bit, but a misfire is more violent... Unless they're the same thing? Help me out here, when I had a bad knock sensor the car would "bog" or "hesitate" under heavy acceleration but not quite misfire (which to my knowledge you'd get a popping sound).
A missfire is an even duh, duh, duh. It is the result of a dead cylinder. It doesn't go away, it only get less noticeable. It should never be confused, nor should the term be sudstituted for hesitation, bog, or stutter.

People need to learn technical terminology before throwing it around out of context.

This is not aimed at aackshun, I see this everyday and its a peeve. I'm not Being the vocabulary police here, we need to use the correct terms to be on the same page.
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Well i changed my spark plugs to NGKs and cleaned my MAF plus installed a short ram and now it rides smooth
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See what good ol maintenance can do to ya?

Originally Posted by asand1
A missfire is an even duh, duh, duh. It is the result of a dead cylinder. It doesn't go away, it only get less noticeable. It should never be confused, nor should the term be sudstituted for hesitation, bog, or stutter.

People need to learn technical terminology before throwing it around out of context.

This is not aimed at aackshun, I see this everyday and its a peeve. I'm not Being the vocabulary police here, we need to use the correct terms to be on the same page.
I see, we need to make a sticky or update the stickies with videos on showing the differences, I wish I had a video of my car misbehaving with the bad CKPS.
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When I had a bad KS it was sluggish. Acceration was slow coming, but it still ran smooth.
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I'm max is missing I just replaced the ks and coils and it's still missing any input??
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Old 05-14-2011, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 19madmax98
I'm max is missing I just replaced the ks and coils and it's still missing any input??
What spark plugs are you using? And the only other thing I had an issue with was the MAF which I cleaned and reset my ecu
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Originally Posted by J2songz
What spark plugs are you using? And the only other thing I had an issue with was the MAF which I cleaned and reset my ecu
I replaced them with OEM plugs I just cleaned my MAF also but still nothing
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Old 05-14-2011, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 19madmax98
I replaced them with OEM plugs I just cleaned my MAF also but still nothing
Are you gettin any codes after you cleared them
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Originally Posted by asand1
A missfire is an even duh, duh, duh. It is the result of a dead cylinder. It doesn't go away, it only get less noticeable. It should never be confused, nor should the term be sudstituted for hesitation, bog, or stutter.

People need to learn technical terminology before throwing it around out of context.

This is not aimed at aackshun, I see this everyday and its a peeve. I'm not Being the vocabulary police here, we need to use the correct terms to be on the same page.

I have a PO 300 which I thought was random misfire. I also have a PO325 KS which I hope I am only getting because of the random misfire. I believe the O2 sensor is the above the catalytic converter but I did not get a specific code. Would that O2 sensor make the car stall?
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