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Old 02-13-2012, 08:36 AM
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Sub Frame Collars VS ES Subframe Bushings
As the title states, does anyone have pros or cons one way or the other regarding just adding the subframe collars versus changing out the old bushings for energy suspension bushings?
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Old 02-13-2012, 05:44 PM
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There not for the same thing.
ES sub frame bushings go on the center cross member.
Where as the sub frame collars go on the k-member.

The ES sub frame bushings don't make a lot of difference and I've never used the collars to say about them.
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxima_Joe
There not for the same thing.
ES sub frame bushings go on the center cross member.
Where as the sub frame collars go on the k-member.

The ES sub frame bushings don't make a lot of difference and I've never used the collars to say about them.
True that ^^
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxima_Joe
There not for the same thing.
ES sub frame bushings go on the center cross member.
Where as the sub frame collars go on the k-member.

The ES sub frame bushings don't make a lot of difference and I've never used the collars to say about them.
Well that explains that.

Thank you.
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i bought the collars and i was very pleased the made my car feel more stable and ride a lot smoother
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Are they even selling the Sub Frame Collars anymore...
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Originally Posted by Rods03Max619
Are they even selling the Sub Frame Collars anymore...
Speedymax99 is still selling them. I slid them in the K-frame in the summer of 2010 and was pleased with the performance.
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