Raising motor by adding to mounts?
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Raising motor by adding to mounts?
i've been pondering this idea through my head for the past few months. in my head it makes sense but maybe in writing and having other people's opinions on this idea can help me determine if it can be done or if i should not even attempt to do it.
OK, here is what has been floating in my head. since 4th gen's tend to break axles after lowering the car around 2in or so due to the geometry of the suspension and blah blah blah, i figured that if i raise that motor(and tranny) 2in it would compensate for the car being lowered. if i add 2in on the subframe mounts and add 2in on the mounting brackets for the side mounts (add reinforcement) should be sufficiant enough to keep my car from breaking axles. this is just a general idea not considering the other things that need to be adjusted like the hood and things like that. i DD my car and getting a little tired of replacing my axle every 2 months and figured this will be a good fix.
what are your opinions on this, do you think i shouldnt waste my time and money or maybe it can work?
OK, here is what has been floating in my head. since 4th gen's tend to break axles after lowering the car around 2in or so due to the geometry of the suspension and blah blah blah, i figured that if i raise that motor(and tranny) 2in it would compensate for the car being lowered. if i add 2in on the subframe mounts and add 2in on the mounting brackets for the side mounts (add reinforcement) should be sufficiant enough to keep my car from breaking axles. this is just a general idea not considering the other things that need to be adjusted like the hood and things like that. i DD my car and getting a little tired of replacing my axle every 2 months and figured this will be a good fix.
what are your opinions on this, do you think i shouldnt waste my time and money or maybe it can work?
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That's what I meant, sorry I was typing this at work. The angle of the axle is what I'm trying to fix or adjust. Only reason I won't get better axles is because 1) the ones I have have life time unlimited warranty and 2) if I need to swap it I can just drive down the road and do a warranty swap and have it back on my car in within the hour, versus me needing it to ship it and wait for the replacement
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The shift linkage is something to consider. I'm not going to say it's impossible, but it would require a lot of custom fabrication to get everything to work properly. Probably more work than it's worth for worn axles.
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There was a thread about this last year. The logic behind the idea makes sense but I don't think he ever got around to doing anything.
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...e-balance.html
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...e-balance.html
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u can fab up some spacers that go under the mounts but when i look at it if u drop it 2 in u really droping 4in thinking about it by droppping it and dean putting 2in at the mount i think this is a bad idea
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There was a thread about this last year. The logic behind the idea makes sense but I don't think he ever got around to doing anything.
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...e-balance.html
http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...e-balance.html
Ways to battle cv axles failures
This was the thread I was referring to. However dropping the crossmember wouldn't be the solution, it would make it worse.
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the strut bar i have currently wont work, due to the clearance issues. i was already going to try and get a custom on piece strut bar for both front and rear, i would just accomidate to the motor being raised. as for the hood, i now that there has to be some modifications to be done but i figured that would not be a problem since i'm concidering to modify the hood regardless if this is done or not.
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Only reason I won't get better axles is because 1) the ones I have have life time unlimited warranty and 2) if I need to swap it I can just drive down the road and do a warranty swap and have it back on my car in within the hour, versus me needing it to ship it and wait for the replacement
Keep on swapping those cheap lifetime warranty axles. Eventually you'll figure it out.
Hint...
A lifetime warranty on junk, gives you a lifetime of junk.
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Well the quickest way to do it is like this.
Remove the inners of your current engine mounts (not easy, quick or fun)
Re-position the bolt hole higher (but leave lets say .5" of room for bushing)
Fill with poly.
You've already raise them about 1 inch or close to an inch by doing that.
And do the opposite to the Transmission and TQ Mounts you will lower the hole for the bolt on those.
Just as a warning, remember you are compromising the handling performance of the vehicle even more by raising the center of gravity higher above the axis of rotation.
Remove the inners of your current engine mounts (not easy, quick or fun)
Re-position the bolt hole higher (but leave lets say .5" of room for bushing)
Fill with poly.
You've already raise them about 1 inch or close to an inch by doing that.
And do the opposite to the Transmission and TQ Mounts you will lower the hole for the bolt on those.
Just as a warning, remember you are compromising the handling performance of the vehicle even more by raising the center of gravity higher above the axis of rotation.
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Well the quickest way to do it is like this.
Remove the inners of your current engine mounts (not easy, quick or fun)
Re-position the bolt hole higher (but leave lets say .5" of room for bushing)
Fill with poly.
You've already raise them about 1 inch or close to an inch by doing that.
And do the opposite to the Transmission and TQ Mounts you will lower the hole for the bolt on those.
Just as a warning, remember you are compromising the handling performance of the vehicle even more by raising the center of gravity higher above the axis of rotation.
Remove the inners of your current engine mounts (not easy, quick or fun)
Re-position the bolt hole higher (but leave lets say .5" of room for bushing)
Fill with poly.
You've already raise them about 1 inch or close to an inch by doing that.
And do the opposite to the Transmission and TQ Mounts you will lower the hole for the bolt on those.
Just as a warning, remember you are compromising the handling performance of the vehicle even more by raising the center of gravity higher above the axis of rotation.
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went to this local fad shop that those a lot of custom car builds, i got an estimate between $500 -$850 depending on what else needs to be altered (wiring harness, hoses, etc.) sounds reasonable so i'll be saving up to get it done. maybe they'll figure something out to where it may be cheaper when i get down to it when funds are there for the work.
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Only reason I won't get better axles is because 1) the ones I have have life time unlimited warranty and 2) if I need to swap it I can just drive down the road and do a warranty swap and have it back on my car in within the hour, versus me needing it to ship it and wait for the replacement
Keep on swapping those cheap lifetime warranty axles. Eventually you'll figure it out.
Hint...
A lifetime warranty on junk, gives you a lifetime of junk.
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