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Dynoing soon - what would you like compared?
11-20-2012, 06:18 PM
#41
Race fuel is expensive here and only available at Road Atlanta. I have thought about mixing my own from time to time. Kind of like they mix premium and low grade to get mid-grade. Thought about mixing 98o with some 93o to theoretically get about 95o with about a 2d increase in timing but the formulas are intense and I couldn't get the math to work and although it wouldn't hurt my engine per say it didn't make financial sense to me.
11-20-2012, 08:12 PM
#42
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I used to have a 99 GTP that was modded and I never had any problems with KR or detonation using Shell V-Power 93 octane, and that was when I was running with the stock ECU and a smaller supercharger pulley.
11-20-2012, 08:24 PM
#43
yeah ive been experimenting outside the box with 100+(I experimented with my 97 back in the day as well). There is only one other person that i know of that is doing a similar experiment. Im pretty much giving away what my intentions are lol.
11-20-2012, 08:31 PM
#44
I will post it here as well. Here is myths of unleaded gasoline:
http://www.pontiacstreetperformance....Mythsgas1.html
http://www.pontiacstreetperformance....Mythsgas1.html
11-20-2012, 08:35 PM
#45
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85
11-20-2012, 08:42 PM
#47
Sup bro! Not working tonight? Or are you on your phone? lol
11-20-2012, 08:50 PM
#48
Race fuel is expensive here and only available at Road Atlanta. I have thought about mixing my own from time to time. Kind of like they mix premium and low grade to get mid-grade. Thought about mixing 98o with some 93o to theoretically get about 95o with about a 2d increase in timing but the formulas are intense and I couldn't get the math to work and although it wouldn't hurt my engine per say it didn't make financial sense to me.
11-20-2012, 09:21 PM
#49
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Actually over 100 octane isn't over kill as e85 is rated over 100 octane. If you notice a lot of people who are force induced are tuning their cars with e85. Only draw back to ethanol is that you lose efficiency of the gasoline.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85
Besides, E85 is only available in limited areas. There isn't any place that sells it around here.
Also, E85 pumps don't have an octane rating since there isn't a way to accurately calculate the octane rating, but it lies somewhere in the 94-96 range. Also, it's more of a "false" octane, meaning that the cooling properties of ethanol burning raise it higher than gasoline.
Long story short, our car's can't use E85 unless modified to do so, and the ECU timing and fuel injector timing pulses would have to be tuned for it. And since we have now started talking about octane ratings with gasoline, let's stick with just talking about gasoline and not E85 or ethanol.
Last edited by T_Behr904; 11-20-2012 at 09:37 PM.
11-21-2012, 10:28 AM
#51
You can't run E85 in our cars. Actually, you shouldn't run E85 in anything that isn't flex fuel, unless you completely revamp the fuel system of the car to cope with the corrosive effects of ethanol. You would have to remove and replace all parts containing aluminum, magnesium, and rubber. Ethanol is electrically conductive whereas gasoline is not, so you would have to use a fuel pump designed specifically for ethanol. Fuel lines would have to be stainless steel, and the gas tank would also have to be stainless, or plastic.
Besides, E85 is only available in limited areas. There isn't any place that sells it around here.
Also, E85 pumps don't have an octane rating since there isn't a way to accurately calculate the octane rating, but it lies somewhere in the 94-96 range. Also, it's more of a "false" octane, meaning that the cooling properties of ethanol burning raise it higher than gasoline.
Long story short, our car's can't use E85 unless modified to do so, and the ECU timing and fuel injector timing pulses would have to be tuned for it. And since we have now started talking about octane ratings with gasoline, let's stick with just talking about gasoline and not E85 or ethanol.
Besides, E85 is only available in limited areas. There isn't any place that sells it around here.
Also, E85 pumps don't have an octane rating since there isn't a way to accurately calculate the octane rating, but it lies somewhere in the 94-96 range. Also, it's more of a "false" octane, meaning that the cooling properties of ethanol burning raise it higher than gasoline.
Long story short, our car's can't use E85 unless modified to do so, and the ECU timing and fuel injector timing pulses would have to be tuned for it. And since we have now started talking about octane ratings with gasoline, let's stick with just talking about gasoline and not E85 or ethanol.
http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Page?template=Myths
Yes we did steer a little off track. Sorry smelly for whoring up your thread. And if others are ok with it ill delete my posts.
11-21-2012, 11:21 AM
#52
What about a light weight pulley vs a stock pulley? I keep hearing a light weight pulley will free up some HP that is lost in the belt system and allow for faster acceleration, etc.
I am not sure if there is dyno somewhere comparing this or not. Many have mentioned its gains are not worth it. Then again there is no actual numbers to prove this...
http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...ght-pully.html
I am not sure if there is dyno somewhere comparing this or not. Many have mentioned its gains are not worth it. Then again there is no actual numbers to prove this...
http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...ght-pully.html
Last edited by deloa84; 11-21-2012 at 11:31 AM.
11-21-2012, 12:20 PM
#53
What about a light weight pulley vs a stock pulley? I keep hearing a light weight pulley will free up some HP that is lost in the belt system and allow for faster acceleration, etc.
I am not sure if there is dyno somewhere comparing this or not. Many have mentioned its gains are not worth it. Then again there is no actual numbers to prove this...
http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...ght-pully.html
I am not sure if there is dyno somewhere comparing this or not. Many have mentioned its gains are not worth it. Then again there is no actual numbers to prove this...
http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...ght-pully.html
11-21-2012, 12:27 PM
#54
I know you did.... but the comment I made was directed towards somewhere else.
11-21-2012, 01:35 PM
#56
You can't run E85 in our cars. Actually, you shouldn't run E85 in anything that isn't flex fuel, unless you completely revamp the fuel system of the car to cope with the corrosive effects of ethanol. You would have to remove and replace all parts containing aluminum, magnesium, and rubber. Ethanol is electrically conductive whereas gasoline is not, so you would have to use a fuel pump designed specifically for ethanol. Fuel lines would have to be stainless steel, and the gas tank would also have to be stainless, or plastic.
Besides, E85 is only available in limited areas. There isn't any place that sells it around here.
Also, E85 pumps don't have an octane rating since there isn't a way to accurately calculate the octane rating, but it lies somewhere in the 94-96 range. Also, it's more of a "false" octane, meaning that the cooling properties of ethanol burning raise it higher than gasoline.
Long story short, our car's can't use E85 unless modified to do so, and the ECU timing and fuel injector timing pulses would have to be tuned for it. And since we have now started talking about octane ratings with gasoline, let's stick with just talking about gasoline and not E85 or ethanol.
Besides, E85 is only available in limited areas. There isn't any place that sells it around here.
Also, E85 pumps don't have an octane rating since there isn't a way to accurately calculate the octane rating, but it lies somewhere in the 94-96 range. Also, it's more of a "false" octane, meaning that the cooling properties of ethanol burning raise it higher than gasoline.
Long story short, our car's can't use E85 unless modified to do so, and the ECU timing and fuel injector timing pulses would have to be tuned for it. And since we have now started talking about octane ratings with gasoline, let's stick with just talking about gasoline and not E85 or ethanol.
It is true that long term effects are there when using e85 however running them every now and then will not wreak havoc with Maxima engines or any other car engine for that matter. In time it will eat away the materials but every so on isn't too bad.
Unlike you T_Behr904, e85 is abundant here in Colroado. I have seen many ricers, racers, wanna bes wanting to use e85. I will stick to regular unleaded gas as it will go further than that of ethanol. Our version of ethanol is crap, countries like Brazil and other South America has much better version of ethanol because they use sugar cane instead of corn. Anyways that's another story.
On a side note, if you aren't aware our lovely GOVT is raising the ethanol level from 10% to 15%. Which will equal horrible gas milage.
11-21-2012, 03:56 PM
#59
Look what i started 
So back to the topic at hand. When you say vias delete. Are you referring to a BOP for the solenoid side or just simply removing the power rod and leaving the vias still hooked up?
So back to the topic at hand. When you say vias delete. Are you referring to a BOP for the solenoid side or just simply removing the power rod and leaving the vias still hooked up?
11-21-2012, 04:20 PM
#60
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11-21-2012, 06:41 PM
#61
11-21-2012, 09:19 PM
#62
I plan on just removing the power rod and leaving the vias assembly since I use rtv to seal up my real bop.
11-22-2012, 02:50 AM
#63
search....been done before....sparks03max
removing vi will result in low-end loss of power but gains in the higher rpm. the low end loss will effect daily driving but will help when it comes to racing due to the higher rpms gains. (tune is key)
where have u been
never gave me any problem in my 5.5 gen which was revving to 7200 or my 4th gen auto that was revving to 7200 as well. my 4th gen was running a lightweight pulley for 4 years with no issues
..been done before....sparks03max
where have u beennever gave me any problem in my 5.5 gen which was revving to 7200 or my 4th gen auto that was revving to 7200 as well. my 4th gen was running a lightweight pulley for 4 years with no issues
11-22-2012, 06:38 AM
#64
I concer, I have run my my car in that range for years with no ill effects. UR underdriven pulley
11-22-2012, 07:34 AM
#66
search....been done before....sparks03max
removing vi will result in low-end loss of power but gains in the higher rpm. the low end loss will effect daily driving but will help when it comes to racing due to the higher rpms gains. (tune is key)
where have u been
never gave me any problem in my 5.5 gen which was revving to 7200 or my 4th gen auto that was revving to 7200 as well. my 4th gen was running a lightweight pulley for 4 years with no issues
..been done before....sparks03maxremoving vi will result in low-end loss of power but gains in the higher rpm. the low end loss will effect daily driving but will help when it comes to racing due to the higher rpms gains. (tune is key)
where have u beennever gave me any problem in my 5.5 gen which was revving to 7200 or my 4th gen auto that was revving to 7200 as well. my 4th gen was running a lightweight pulley for 4 years with no issues
I was just thinking, I think I had some clearance issues with my pftb and the vias. I'll have to check it out this weekend.
11-22-2012, 08:26 AM
#67
11-22-2012, 11:44 AM
#70
I have a LW Pulley on my Max I have the MOTOSTORM one, had for about 6 months plus on the car now, Love that thing, had one on the other Max that was totaled, a Ralco one same effect, loved It.....
11-22-2012, 11:51 AM
#71
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One thing about deleting the power rod... It is more beneficial with an extended rev limiter. You lose low end and midrange with it deleted, whereas you gain more top end above 5K, which is the speed that the 00VI activates on 00-01 5th gens.
11-22-2012, 12:51 PM
#72
We'll see, I'm not completley sold on it yet.
Yes, I have an EU so that won't be an issue.
Yes, I have an EU so that won't be an issue.
Last edited by schmellyfart; 11-22-2012 at 02:19 PM.
11-22-2012, 12:54 PM
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11-22-2012, 02:18 PM
#74
I ran it to 7100 last time I dynoed.
11-28-2012, 01:58 PM
#75
Sorry about the quality, but the power rod and VIAS are installed and ready for the dyno.
Edit: nevermind, totally forgot to put the spring back in the vias
Edit: nevermind, totally forgot to put the spring back in the vias
Last edited by schmellyfart; 11-28-2012 at 02:00 PM.
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11-28-2012, 02:41 PM
#77
12-01-2012, 04:22 PM
#78
I tested power rod vs power rod delete and my 3.5" maf vs stock. Didn't have time to test the Z32 maf, but I don't think it would have made any difference.
I'll post up the results as soon as I sort through the runfiles.
I'll post up the results as soon as I sort through the runfiles.
12-01-2012, 05:52 PM
#79
This is a no brainer.... Working VIAS and Non working VIAS... way too many prove info on intake setups.... not enough if any on VIAS difference, even if there is absolutely no power gains or loss it would be interesting to see how it affects the area under curve (granted we have somewhat an idea already)
