Axle seal dust cover doesn't fit new axle
#1
Axle seal dust cover doesn't fit new axle
So it seems like the shaft on the new axle was machined down very slightly more than the old one...
I had to kroil and then tap the old dust cover off with an improvised punch; now it doesn't quite fit the new axle.
It's really close to fitting... But the flange where the dust cover is supposed to go is probably 1/10th a mm too small, allowing the dust cover to slide over.
Loctite maybe? It's really close but I don't want the thing coming off..
I had to kroil and then tap the old dust cover off with an improvised punch; now it doesn't quite fit the new axle.
It's really close to fitting... But the flange where the dust cover is supposed to go is probably 1/10th a mm too small, allowing the dust cover to slide over.
Loctite maybe? It's really close but I don't want the thing coming off..
#2
Ok solved it...
Took the box end of a 12mm wrench and tapped it inside the dust cover with a hammer to expand the inner diameter of the dust cover.
Worked great!! I used a hammer and screwdriver to tap the slightly expanded cover onto the new axle. Should stay on just great, especially with a little road grime :P
Took the box end of a 12mm wrench and tapped it inside the dust cover with a hammer to expand the inner diameter of the dust cover.
Worked great!! I used a hammer and screwdriver to tap the slightly expanded cover onto the new axle. Should stay on just great, especially with a little road grime :P
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#5
I wouldn't change axles that are already purchased and installed.
There is a thread about a type of CV axle that I've started using on lowered cars. that is made by Trackmotive/SurTrack. No complaints with installation. I've only been using them for less than a year. It will take 3 years to know if they last longer than the GSP axles that I replaced.
Our member KP11520 recently did some research into the company behind many brands that we purchase. I need to update the thread with KP's research. Somehow I think there are only three or four manufactures/re-builders behind all of the brands we see today. I think this includes the Nissan value line of CV axles as well.
https://maxima.org/forums/4th-genera...-cv-axles.html
There is a thread about a type of CV axle that I've started using on lowered cars. that is made by Trackmotive/SurTrack. No complaints with installation. I've only been using them for less than a year. It will take 3 years to know if they last longer than the GSP axles that I replaced.
Our member KP11520 recently did some research into the company behind many brands that we purchase. I need to update the thread with KP's research. Somehow I think there are only three or four manufactures/re-builders behind all of the brands we see today. I think this includes the Nissan value line of CV axles as well.
https://maxima.org/forums/4th-genera...-cv-axles.html
#7
Buy where you can get the best price and warranty combination.
Anyway, I think you are in luck. I have the Import Direct on a car that has been lowered just over an inch. No issues so far. Though it will take years to know how they turn out. The outer boot material appears to be an improvement over the synthetic rubber that is used in the inner boot.
Now here's the SHOCKER that I learned from KP11520.
There is a company in China named Wohn Industrial Co. Ltd., that it turns out makes a number of the "higher priced" new CV axles that we see on the market.
Here's a link to the Wonh site.
http://www.wonhparts.com/products/?sort=1&id=4
Trackmotive
http://www.trakmotive.com/about-us/
About Trackmotive - Wonh is a leading aftermarket manufacturer of premium automotive parts, including the TrakMotive™ line of new, OE-specified replacement CV axles, ATV/UTV axles and window regulators.
For example, the part numbers for passenger side 4th gen CV axles all seem resemble the base Trackmotive part number.
Trackmotive NI-8147
https://trakmotive.mycarparts.net/pr...id=11110493592
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SurTrack NI-8147
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Import Direct NI-8147
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...1424&ppt=C0362
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Cardone Select 666 147
https://www.cardone.com/Products/Pro...ductId=66-6147
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Empire - USA Industries 80-4657
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....sn=376&jsn=376
http://usaind.com/catalog/electronic.html
And there are more..
Last edited by CS_AR; 03-11-2017 at 10:54 PM.
#8
Just wanted to give an update to that Surtrack axle I ordered.
Found out during installation that one of the mounting holes was tapped too large from the manufacturer, so there was no thread for the bolt to secure to. That's going back tonight to RockAuto.
My mechanic had a GSP axle brought over from his supplier. Upon inspection he mentioned it looked identical to the Surtrack that I originally brought in. After install, there is no significant vibration upon acceleration. There are times where I can feel a little in the shifter during a left hand turn, but I cannot reproduce that 100% of the time. Overall, I am happy with how the GSP turned out. I am just upset that the QC on the Surtrack seemed lacking.
Found out during installation that one of the mounting holes was tapped too large from the manufacturer, so there was no thread for the bolt to secure to. That's going back tonight to RockAuto.
My mechanic had a GSP axle brought over from his supplier. Upon inspection he mentioned it looked identical to the Surtrack that I originally brought in. After install, there is no significant vibration upon acceleration. There are times where I can feel a little in the shifter during a left hand turn, but I cannot reproduce that 100% of the time. Overall, I am happy with how the GSP turned out. I am just upset that the QC on the Surtrack seemed lacking.
#9
Just wanted to give an update to that Surtrack axle I ordered.
Found out during installation that one of the mounting holes was tapped too large from the manufacturer, so there was no thread for the bolt to secure to. That's going back tonight to RockAuto.
My mechanic had a GSP axle brought over from his supplier. Upon inspection he mentioned it looked identical to the Surtrack that I originally brought in. After install, there is no significant vibration upon acceleration. There are times where I can feel a little in the shifter during a left hand turn, but I cannot reproduce that 100% of the time. Overall, I am happy with how the GSP turned out. I am just upset that the QC on the Surtrack seemed lacking.
Found out during installation that one of the mounting holes was tapped too large from the manufacturer, so there was no thread for the bolt to secure to. That's going back tonight to RockAuto.
My mechanic had a GSP axle brought over from his supplier. Upon inspection he mentioned it looked identical to the Surtrack that I originally brought in. After install, there is no significant vibration upon acceleration. There are times where I can feel a little in the shifter during a left hand turn, but I cannot reproduce that 100% of the time. Overall, I am happy with how the GSP turned out. I am just upset that the QC on the Surtrack seemed lacking.
I had GSP axles running for 3 and 5 years on two 4th gens and never experienced any noise or vibration issues. The only problem I had was the outer boots would start to split after 3 years, but never a noise problem.
The outer boots on GSP axles can be replaced with OEM boots if they give you trouble at some point.
Though I am a bit confused by the mechanic's indication that the GSP and Surtrack look identical.
What I am about to show is the GSP has a distinctive proprietary design for the inner tripod bearing short axle housing and inner boot.
Here's a picture of two new GSP axles below. You can see the inner boot and tripod bearing housing have dished out looking design. There are no OEM spec inner boots that will ever work with a GSP axle due to the proprietary "tringular shaped" tripod bearing housing area. Trust me on that because I took apart of new GSP axles to replace the boots with OEMs and found the design difference. Actually I have a new set of OEM boots in the workshop that I could not use on the GSP axles because of the difference.
You can see the flat side of the GSP inner triangle in picture below.
Here's a picture of the GSP triangular shaped housing for the tripod bearing.
Here's a picture of a GSP tripod bearing. The bearing is quite normal looking.
Here's a picture of two Surtrack axles that are marketed as Import Direct and sold by O'Reilly auto. As you can see from the pictures the inner tripod bearing housing is round. The outer dimensions of the Surtrack inner housing follows the OEM spec and will allow OEM boots to be used if needed.
Bottom line - I would be surprised if you have any noise issues with the GSP. But in the future if a mechanic tells you that a Surtrack and GSP look identical, you can now point out the difference.
GSP's inner boot design is not a bad thing. It's just a different thing.
Last edited by CS_AR; 04-01-2017 at 07:12 PM.
#10
Ah, I see what you mean. My guess is he was referencing the thickness of the axle shaft, as well as that ABS ring (?); didn't really get into too much detail on it. I am just glad that this one worked out. The minor random vibration still annoys me, but it's something I can live with. I will have to try to pick up a local Import Direct unit, rather than order online next time.
#11
Ah, I see what you mean. My guess is he was referencing the thickness of the axle shaft, as well as that ABS ring (?); didn't really get into too much detail on it. I am just glad that this one worked out. The minor random vibration still annoys me, but it's something I can live with. I will have to try to pick up a local Import Direct unit, rather than order online next time.
It is getting harder and harder to get new parts that work the first time out unless someone buys OEM or a brand like Intermotor, that often costs as much or more than OEM. I've often wished that Intermotor offered CV axles. But then they would sell for over $500 each.. So I take my chances and wish for the best with ones that I can afford.