Just wondering if there fast...The two door model I think its the 330ci...My friend just got one ??

 

It'll be close but I think the edge will go to the max. With the Y-pipe, you should win without a doubt.

 

the max and the 3 series bimmer are very close competition......i'm pretty sure you'll whoop him with your 5 spd though

 

330s are fast even with steptronic tranny, a lot of low and mid-range torque. Go race him and let us know

 

My mom has a 01 330i(auto) and it will be a very tight race vs a 5spd down the 1/4. From a 60 mph roll he will own you unless your car has mods. The 330i sedans with the steptronic run mid to high 6s 0-60.

 

I OWNED that very 330 the last time that I raced it from a roll....

 

We own the 330i as well as my 99 SE. And let me just say that 330 is fast as hell. It will blow away an auto max, even with some mods. I can't say wheather the 5 speed max will take it or not, I've never drove a 5 speed max before, but watch out. Should be a fun race!
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simple answer... get the y-pipe first, then you win

 

You'll get him from a standing start for sure, but if you go from highway speeds he'll walk all over you. Those cars were built for one purpose, to go fast easily. The Maxima was built as a family sedan that happens to be tuneable into something that can go fast if set up and driven properly.

 

Like i said "unless you have mods" dont try it, your car is modded. Also the 330i beat you on I-355 that one night, you cant deny that.

 

My friend has the 2001 330i sedan, auto. I have a 97 SE auto, and those 330's are FAST. He burns me everytime, whether from a complete stop or rolling start. I think a modded 5-speed probably would beat it, though it'd be very close. Off the line that thing takes off like no other, your max's wheels will be spinning while he just takes off. Definitely let us know what happens.

 

My friend with has a 330ci 5spd. I'll race him in the next 2 weeks and let you know.

 

Well, I'll definitely race a Maxima in a few months when I get my new 330Ci.

 

Isn't the BMW 330Ci, the convertible? I could be wrong but that should mean that he's pulling quite a bit more weight than the 330i (sedan).... The 330i is a good match in it's own respect for a 5sp Max, but even then if the Max is launched right, it should win, (mind you the max is a lot harder to launch correctly than the Bimmer RWD vs FWD).... However he is a convertible, so that should slow him down and being auto should slow him even more, but who knows, u just need to get over there and duke it out.

 

Convertible is 330Cic, 330Ci is a coupe, 330i is a sedan.

 

I wouldn't want to take on a 330 in the twisties with a max. For FWD, the max handles great but no comparison to RWD. There IS more to racing than just 1/4 mile.

 

A 5 speed will walk you, your only chance is against an auto.

 

If you have some decent suspension mods you can keep up with a 330 on the twisties, full suspension done with some wide rims and performance tires... bye bye 330.

 

That recent test of it in the 5spd version the times werent better than the 5spd Maxima and it was a 5spd. One of the mags did it in febs issue against the IS300,A4 and others.

 

NO WAY!!!!!!!!! 330i handles way better than any maximae ever been in and the brakes on the 330i are UNREAL compared to our junk brakes.

 

I knew that was coming from someone. The reason I said that with some suspension mods a Maxima can keep up with a 330 on the twisties and a fully modded max (as far as suspension) can beat it is because my best friend has a 2001 330i (auto) and we race on the highways practically every day/night of the week. I have a RSB, FSTB, and AGX shocks with stock SE springs so far and before he used to lose me on the curves, now I'm on his *** the whole time. The only reason he doesn't get to see my tailights the whole way through is 1. because a lot of times I slow down on curves even though the car would handle fine (I've been in an accident before where my car basically flipped on a curve so that's a side-effect), and 2. because his car is much faster so even if I keep flooring mine he would still keep the lead. And I'm talking about speeds close to 125-130 mph on these NY highways, and my car has pretty good grip. I'm waiting to get some nice 17" rims with some performance tires and also H&R springs and then when I have some speed mods (or even without) I'll be able to lose him on the twisties. And also the 330i has an electronically limited top speed of 128 mph (unless there is some type of a mod to get rid of that, probably is) and my SE not having a speed limiter can go all the way upto 140 mph. SO my whole point is that if we're on some twisties, and my car has the proper suspension setup to go 140 and not flip (which it hopefully won't after I'm done with all my susp. mods), it WILL beat the **** out of a 330. And on a straight road if we were to keep going (I'm waiting to go on the NJ turnpike with him sometime ) , he'd only be able to go upto 128 mph while I can take it all the way upto 140 and beat him.

As far as the brakes, I WORSHIP bimmer brakes, there's nothing like them in the whole wide world.

 

forget the 330.. I'll hold me own against an M3 in the turns... you have to understand that the BMW was made to be more agressive and corner better than the maxima; they still want to sell them so they make them soft enough for the average person. When the people who designed my AGX and GC did their work, they wanted to make the ultimate cornering parts and didn't care so much about a soft ride. I will give the BMW the advantage on brakes, but to say that a stock BMW will take a well modded maxima is nothing more than brand name racing which is worse than magazine racing.

 

FWD vs RWD in the corners we are in the hole right off the bat.

 

It doesn't matter whether it's FWD or RWD or NO wheel drive , I mean ofcourse it matters ALOT and we all know the whole deal with FWD and RWD. BUT again the point is that I have a maxima, I'm going 140 mph on a curve, the 330 couldn't keep up cuz it's only limited to 128 mph, do you see my car slipping or flipping? No. Ok then end of story.

And I'm saying all of that from experience, I've already gone 130 mph on a lot of curvy highways here (grand central/northern, cross island just 2 nights ago), so it's not like I'm just saying whatever I heard from people. I won't say my max has the best grip at those speeds on the twisties but it's good enough for me to keep going without feeling like my life is on the line, and like I said my suspension is modded only halfway right now, so when it's fully modded hopefully we'll be talking some SERIOUS grip.

 

That's why every BMW has a sport package option which includes sport tuned suspension and bigger wheels. Even if you make your Maxima handle like a BMW you'll lose the ride comfort which is not happening with the BMWs. I drove 3 and 5 series with and without sport packages and all I can say is my H&R/Koni combo is nothing comparing to stock BMW suspension.

 

The 330i sport that is in my garage has the same suspension as the M3. I forgot to mention that but anyways i dont think the maxima with suspension mods will take a 330i sport in a race with turns. In a drag race or race from a roll there is no doubt in my mind a maxima with little or no mods could win. I will brand name race all day when the parts on the car same M on them .

 

holy shiznit, how the BMW 330 gonna be the same speed as a 96 Maxima SE?! are maxima's that fast?! What year BMW are we talking bout?

 

2001 or 2002 330i

 

umm.....just cuz a car has rwd doesnt make it better than a fwd in corners, the maxima stock isnt really known for its handling, but a 330ci doesnt put down that good numbers either. i dont doubt that a maxima stock will lose to a 330ci stock in handling, but to say that a modded maxima wouldnt beat out a stock 330ci is overestimating the handling of the BMW. Even the new M3 isnt as impressive as it should be in handling, so a 330ci with same parts still isnt much better than an M3.
Remember the Integra Type R was FWD and it would own the 330ci in handling(slalom speed, lateral grip).
peace

 

a few years back Car and Driver did a test for the best handling car for over 30k. The tests had all the big dowg's in it porsche ferrari corvette etc.......bottom line is the m3 took home the trophy.

 

I agree with this. My Max has RSB, FSTB, AGX's on stock springs and a set of Dunlop SP8000. I can definately out handle our 330i with this setup. Mind you we have the lux package. It has a softer suspension then the sport package. We do have the 17" tires but there Continential Conti's are a POS if you ask me.