Exhaust for my 98?
02-05-2021, 01:16 AM
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Exhaust for my 98?
Hi guys! Just picked up a 98 maxima with less than 40k original miles and I'm already looking for things to do to it. Is there anywhere that still sells fairly cheap catback exhausts/short ram intakes for the car? I'm already planning on getting the warpspeed y pipe but I still need an exhaust system. Any help would be appreciated!
02-05-2021, 04:38 AM
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02-05-2021, 08:20 AM
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Hello and welcome to the forum.
Where are you?
We would all like to see photos of your car once it's been detailed. Heck, even the way it is.
It's mileage is incredibly low for its age.
How did you find it?
How much did you pay for it?
Congratulations !!!
Where are you?
We would all like to see photos of your car once it's been detailed. Heck, even the way it is.
It's mileage is incredibly low for its age.
How did you find it?
How much did you pay for it?
Congratulations !!!
02-05-2021, 09:44 AM
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I had Mandrel Exhaust System (Trubenz) build a Catback exhaust system for the 95-99 Maxima I'm running a 2.5" aluminized steel catback with Magnaflow mufflers 4" round X 22" (Resonator) and 22" x 11' x 5" (Rear muffler) and it sounds and has performed great!
https://www.trubendz.com/categories/...an-maxima.html
https://www.trubendz.com/categories/...an-maxima.html
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02-09-2021, 02:11 PM
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02-09-2021, 07:18 PM
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This car was a steal congrats on the purchase and the car is very much in mint condition. I was wondering did this car ever been in a accident or any body work because the car is in perfect condition. It looks as if it was in a clean condition with a clean title. I know a company other than megan who is still making the exhaust for our cars and megan was still making the exhaust for our cars. I am looking at the site they still make catbacks but you must call and talk to nelson the megan mang or parts specialists. I do know who still off the bat has and still makes the catbacks only and has them in stock now as we speak but you must shoot me a PM. I would give the org the info and everyone the info here but some reason,I feel as if I try to help the org with maxima performance exhaust to be in production the parts not enough support or they would tell me that they need more time to produce and they say they will spend tons of money to make them and they think no ones gonna buy them I had a thread about this exhaust up for all of us but it went where or they would put a parts a demand of no productions for the maxima and the parts. I can get it going again but we need more people to chime in for the production.. This was the headers and exhaust combo production.
02-09-2021, 07:50 PM
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This car was a steal congrats on the purchase and the car is very much in mint condition. I was wondering did this car ever been in a accident or any body work because the car is in perfect condition. It looks as if it was in a clean condition with a clean title. I know a company other than megan who is still making the exhaust for our cars and megan was still making the exhaust for our cars. I am looking at the site they still make catbacks but you must call and talk to nelson the megan mang or parts specialists. I do know who still off the bat has and still makes the catbacks only and has them in stock now as we speak but you must shoot me a PM. I would give the org the info and everyone the info here but some reason,I feel as if I try to help the org with maxima performance exhaust to be in production the parts not enough support or they would tell me that they need more time to produce and they say they will spend tons of money to make them and they think no ones gonna buy them I had a thread about this exhaust up for all of us but it went where or they would put a parts a demand of no productions for the maxima and the parts. I can get it going again but we need more people to chime in for the production.. This was the headers and exhaust combo production.
02-09-2021, 10:24 PM
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After you figure out which airbag went bad, good luck finding a reliable one at a reasonable price.
ABS sensor removal can be QUITE difficult if it rotted in from salt exposure. Use OEM or Standard Motor Products for many trouble free years.
ABS sensor removal can be QUITE difficult if it rotted in from salt exposure. Use OEM or Standard Motor Products for many trouble free years.
02-10-2021, 07:50 PM
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Yes they are listed, but when you order they send a message saying they dont have it in stock, they get it straight from the manufacturer and are waiting for it to be sent. I talked to them on the phone and they've been waiting for over a year to get them, I'm positive that they are discontinued. Unless you want to wait 6 months to a year to maybe get the exhaust
02-18-2021, 10:17 PM
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Yes they are listed, but when you order they send a message saying they dont have it in stock, they get it straight from the manufacturer and are waiting for it to be sent. I talked to them on the phone and they've been waiting for over a year to get them, I'm positive that they are discontinued. Unless you want to wait 6 months to a year to maybe get the exhaust
02-19-2021, 07:24 AM
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I believe what your saying I had a talk with the top guy on the megan exhaust regarding the other brand they make also they make the manzo exhaust they had over 160 batches last when I talked to him they did the headers and y-pipe combo while the megans did the catback only. I ordered one and it came out bent and warped so they checked out all of them, I had to order the right one back-to-back and still had a bent and warped y-pipe and headers combo and so he tossed them all out as an loss, so he finally said they can't and won't make any more exhaust due to no one helping them manufacture and no one will be intrested in the makings of the headers and y-pipe combo due to the labor and producer and the buyer for a car thats about 20+ years old. I talked and I told him honda still has parts for the old 88+ civics hatbacks integras ect. I was just trying to make sense of what he was trying to say and do about the maximas being old and not producing the parts while older civics and integras are still getting the stuff produced as we speak from skunk and hks ect. I was trying to help the maxima community a chance for the productions for exhaust, since the cattman days.
so hard to find decent/quality parts
02-19-2021, 05:20 PM
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I believe what your saying I had a talk with the top guy on the megan exhaust regarding the other brand they make also they make the manzo exhaust they had over 160 batches last when I talked to him they did the headers and y-pipe combo while the megans did the catback only. I ordered one and it came out bent and warped so they checked out all of them, I had to order the right one back-to-back and still had a bent and warped y-pipe and headers combo and so he tossed them all out as an loss, so he finally said they can't and won't make any more exhaust due to no one helping them manufacture and no one will be intrested in the makings of the headers and y-pipe combo due to the labor and producer and the buyer for a car thats about 20+ years old. I talked and I told him honda still has parts for the old 88+ civics hatbacks integras ect. I was just trying to make sense of what he was trying to say and do about the maximas being old and not producing the parts while older civics and integras are still getting the stuff produced as we speak from skunk and hks ect. I was trying to help the maxima community a chance for the productions for exhaust, since the cattman days.
02-19-2021, 07:20 PM
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You are comparing apples and oranges. The older civics and integras have a following; people collect and still mod them. They go for decent money on BAT. The Maxima on the other hand, does not have a following of enthusiasts anything remotely close to the Honda's and Acura's. The Hondas and Acuras are only going up in value, the Maxima not so much.
02-19-2021, 07:56 PM
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If anyone is after trying to make more power. That aforementioned stillen is not going to do it. Hell no off the shelf, ready to install kit can do it really (in the year 2021) for the 4th gen.
3" Trubendz piping kit + vibrant components = best catback exhaust you can get for the money.
There are many ways to go about volume it but if you want to make a difference with your car 3" is the way to go..... Catback wise.
If you want to send/buy 4th gen manifolds I can have a y-pipe made for you after I finish this header production run that will sound better and make more power than any other ypipe could ever make (the headers I'm making are a bit too aggressive for a stock cam VQ).
Basically pm/email me if you want to make power with your exhaust lmao.
As for intake I made all my 190/210 wheelpower on a godawful short ram intake from ebay probably better ways to do it, but I was a 20-sumfin back then and didn't know anything else.
3" Trubendz piping kit + vibrant components = best catback exhaust you can get for the money.
There are many ways to go about volume it but if you want to make a difference with your car 3" is the way to go..... Catback wise.
If you want to send/buy 4th gen manifolds I can have a y-pipe made for you after I finish this header production run that will sound better and make more power than any other ypipe could ever make (the headers I'm making are a bit too aggressive for a stock cam VQ).
Basically pm/email me if you want to make power with your exhaust lmao.
As for intake I made all my 190/210 wheelpower on a godawful short ram intake from ebay probably better ways to do it, but I was a 20-sumfin back then and didn't know anything else.
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02-19-2021, 10:04 PM
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The point I was trying to make these hondas and nissans are 20+yrs old cars and I was clearly stating that these companies are more and willing to produce aftermarket parts for a honda and an acura than a maxima from what the ceo of megan and manzo told me about how they would do the productions due to a popularity and the demands in this modding field. I wouldn't say, I was comparing apples to oranges, I was trying to show how the aftermaket guys work when it comes to the maxima vs hondas and acuras.
If I was an aftermarket company, I wouldn't make parts for the Maxima either. There's basically no market for them. Cattman could have stuck around and continued to sell his stuff, but the market dried up. And when Nissan started putting CVT's in the Maxima, the "tuner crowd" abandoned the Maxima. With enthusiasts having little to no interest to mod or restore Maximas, support from the aftermarket companies dried up.
02-20-2021, 08:50 PM
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You more or less confirmed my point. If I was an aftermarket company, I wouldn't make parts for the Maxima either. There's basically no market for them. Cattman could have stuck around and continued to sell his stuff, but the market dried up. And when Nissan started putting CVT's in the Maxima, the "tuner crowd" abandoned the Maxima. With enthusiasts having little to no interest to mod or restore Maximas, support from the aftermarket companies dried up.
If I was an aftermarket company, I wouldn't make parts for the Maxima either. There's basically no market for them. Cattman could have stuck around and continued to sell his stuff, but the market dried up. And when Nissan started putting CVT's in the Maxima, the "tuner crowd" abandoned the Maxima. With enthusiasts having little to no interest to mod or restore Maximas, support from the aftermarket companies dried up.
but we know that the aftermarket guys don't like maxima guys
I have a thread and I pm'd you and some other orgers here to have a group vote on a group, I found a group that were supposedly intrested in helping us for a freshly designed headers and exhaust and catback. He was gonna start the shorty headers first and than do the others later depending on the buyers and selling volume, but he was more concerned on the org and the support and the demand and of course the price that they would sell for and everyone would buy it for a reasonable and affordable pricing. I am thinking about contacting him again to see where he stands with this idea. I think he was more concerned on the support and the votes from the org to put the orders in and so he can see the demands to make them again.
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02-22-2021, 09:48 PM
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I've installed several different headers and catbacks on 3rd, 4th, and 5th gen Maxima(s) as well on many other makes and models! I believe straight out the box Cattman headers, Y-pipes and catback systems have been some of the best fitting and easy to install bolts exhaust components I'll every dealt with. I've installed OBX, Pacesetter, Megan, etc on many car that are too many to list! I've seen people do things during their component installation that are totally against the laws of basic mechanics! For example installing OBX headers under tension trying to close excessive gaps to prevent an exhaust leak! This lead to numerous OBX headers cracking in the tubing, welds, etc! It was kinda funning to me! But using several flanges and gaskets was the only real answer to preventing that or buy HotShot or Cattman Headers. Even the Pacesetter headers came with exhaust leaks down in the area where the headpipes merged in the collector. The fix for that was to completely weld the pipes from the top of the collector merge to the bottom of the collector merge closing of the gaps between the 2 headpipes! I personally believe that a bad installation results in a bad fitment with pretty much any and everything! So blaming Cattman to me is the easy way out! I've installed two Cattman catbacks (2.5" & 3.0") on my personal 5.5th Gen and the 2.5" perforated tube inside the 2.5" Cattman had a slight buzzing rattle where it appeared the perforated tube cracked! I mention this to Cattman and he sent out a replacement resonator section that fit but wasn't the same as the original Cattman systems that were built with the bottle shaped 22" x 4" round resonators! There was too many welds inside the resonator and on the ends. I didn't like it...To me it wasn't as clean as the Magnaflow universal mufflers which are of a seamless perforated tube design and flow a much higher CFM....That's my only issue I had with Cattman and he did take care of it.
So regarding this Megan header/catback venture or experiment how should we approach them do they need a 2000-01 and 2002-03 mule for fitment or do they need someone to install and communicate back to them the necessary change that they may need to incorporate to build a successful header assy or catback assembly? I was that experimental installer for Trubendz for the 3rd & 4th Maxima(s)... Let me know what you need from me!
So regarding this Megan header/catback venture or experiment how should we approach them do they need a 2000-01 and 2002-03 mule for fitment or do they need someone to install and communicate back to them the necessary change that they may need to incorporate to build a successful header assy or catback assembly? I was that experimental installer for Trubendz for the 3rd & 4th Maxima(s)... Let me know what you need from me!
02-23-2021, 12:07 PM
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Hey, wizard how you doing bro, I remember that I did talk to brian from cattman and he told me himself that he stopped producing for us and i asked him to help us again to produce the exhaust and I and some others never tried the cattmans and I and some other would be very happy to try the cattman products again and he told me he started with the 2.5 inch and went to a full 3 inch exhaust and people started to have fitment issues and people were complaining and demanding refunds and a re-designing the exhaust due to lot's of upset orgers and consumers. He told me he had the orgers that were getting upset to a point were It was getting bad for him and how the org was insulting him ect. and he decided to shut it all down for the org. I don't know if I have or I haven't confirmed anything, but we know that the aftermarket guys don't like maxima guys I have a thread and I pm'd you and some other orgers here to have a group vote on a group, I found a group that were supposedly interested in helping us for a freshly designed headers and exhaust and catback. He was gonna start the shorty headers first and than do the others later depending on the buyers and selling volume, but he was more concerned on the org and the support and the demand and of course the price that they would sell for and everyone would buy it for a reasonable and affordable pricing. I am thinking about contacting him again to see where he stands with this idea. I think he was more concerned on the support and the votes from the org to put the orders in and so he can see the demands to make them again.
but we know that the aftermarket guys don't like maxima guys I have a thread and I pm'd you and some other orgers here to have a group vote on a group, I found a group that were supposedly interested in helping us for a freshly designed headers and exhaust and catback. He was gonna start the shorty headers first and than do the others later depending on the buyers and selling volume, but he was more concerned on the org and the support and the demand and of course the price that they would sell for and everyone would buy it for a reasonable and affordable pricing. I am thinking about contacting him again to see where he stands with this idea. I think he was more concerned on the support and the votes from the org to put the orders in and so he can see the demands to make them again.
Everything you stated about the whole Cattman debacle is true. It's not that aftermarket guys don't like us Maxima guys, it's just that there simply isn't enough demand for aftermarket products anymore.
02-23-2021, 12:18 PM
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I've installed several different headers and catbacks on 3rd, 4th, and 5th gen Maxima(s) as well on many other makes and models! I believe straight out the box Cattman headers, Y-pipes and catback systems have been some of the best fitting and easy to install bolts exhaust components I'll every dealt with. I've installed OBX, Pacesetter, Megan, etc on many car that are too many to list! I've seen people do things during their component installation that are totally against the laws of basic mechanics! For example installing OBX headers under tension trying to close excessive gaps to prevent an exhaust leak! This lead to numerous OBX headers cracking in the tubing, welds, etc! It was kinda funning to me! But using several flanges and gaskets was the only real answer to preventing that or buy HotShot or Cattman Headers. Even the Pacesetter headers came with exhaust leaks down in the area where the headpipes merged in the collector. The fix for that was to completely weld the pipes from the top of the collector merge to the bottom of the collector merge closing of the gaps between the 2 headpipes! I personally believe that a bad installation results in a bad fitment with pretty much any and everything! So blaming Cattman to me is the easy way out! I've installed two Cattman catbacks (2.5" & 3.0") on my personal 5.5th Gen and the 2.5" perforated tube inside the 2.5" Cattman had a slight buzzing rattle where it appeared the perforated tube cracked! I mention this to Cattman and he sent out a replacement resonator section that fit but wasn't the same as the original Cattman systems that were built with the bottle shaped 22" x 4" round resonators! There was too many welds inside the resonator and on the ends. I didn't like it...To me it wasn't as clean as the Magnaflow universal mufflers which are of a seamless perforated tube design and flow a much higher CFM....That's my only issue I had with Cattman and he did take care of it.
So regarding this Megan header/catback venture or experiment how should we approach them do they need a 2000-01 and 2002-03 mule for fitment or do they need someone to install and communicate back to them the necessary change that they may need to incorporate to build a successful header assy or catback assembly? I was that experimental installer for Trubendz for the 3rd & 4th Maxima(s)... Let me know what you need from me!
So regarding this Megan header/catback venture or experiment how should we approach them do they need a 2000-01 and 2002-03 mule for fitment or do they need someone to install and communicate back to them the necessary change that they may need to incorporate to build a successful header assy or catback assembly? I was that experimental installer for Trubendz for the 3rd & 4th Maxima(s)... Let me know what you need from me!
There is/was clear evidence that Cattman did not stand behind his products at the very end. Once he was called out, he blamed the car stating that "every Maxima is different/all Maximas are not built the same", and it wasn't his product's fault. Very lame that he wouldn't take responsibility. You've been around long enough, you should remember the fiasco with the 3" catbacks fitting poorly and the banging issues. At least half the people in the group deal had banging issues, the other half stayed quit while only a few people reported no issues. Headers and TI bar were/are great. The 2.5" system was pretty decent too. Seemed like a cool guy when I spoke to him on the phone, but his ego/pride got in his own way at the very end.
What's even more sad about the whole Cattman situation is that no one every complained about fitment issues with the 2.5" system. Then the 3" system comes along and there are fitment issues. A lot of people upgraded from 2.5" systems to 3" systems, including myself, and Cattman had the ***** to blame the car and not his product. Total weasel move. Some are the very same maximas that never had fitment issues with the first system! The car didn't change, so that leaves the product.
02-23-2021, 05:48 PM
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I'll copy and paste what I wrote in the other exhaust thread. Based on what you are saying, it appears the 3" catback turned out way better for the 5th gen compared to the 4th gens.
There is/was clear evidence that Cattman did not stand behind his products at the very end. Once he was called out, he blamed the car stating that "every Maxima is different/all Maximas are not built the same", and it wasn't his product's fault. Very lame that he wouldn't take responsibility. You've been around long enough, you should remember the fiasco with the 3" catbacks fitting poorly and the banging issues. At least half the people in the group deal had banging issues, the other half stayed quit while only a few people reported no issues. Headers and TI bar were/are great. The 2.5" system was pretty decent too. Seemed like a cool guy when I spoke to him on the phone, but his ego/pride got in his own way at the very end.
What's even more sad about the whole Cattman situation is that no one every complained about fitment issues with the 2.5" system. Then the 3" system comes along and there are fitment issues. A lot of people upgraded from 2.5" systems to 3" systems, including myself, and Cattman had the ***** to blame the car and not his product. Total weasel move. Some are the very same maximas that never had fitment issues with the first system! The car didn't change, so that leaves the product.
There is/was clear evidence that Cattman did not stand behind his products at the very end. Once he was called out, he blamed the car stating that "every Maxima is different/all Maximas are not built the same", and it wasn't his product's fault. Very lame that he wouldn't take responsibility. You've been around long enough, you should remember the fiasco with the 3" catbacks fitting poorly and the banging issues. At least half the people in the group deal had banging issues, the other half stayed quit while only a few people reported no issues. Headers and TI bar were/are great. The 2.5" system was pretty decent too. Seemed like a cool guy when I spoke to him on the phone, but his ego/pride got in his own way at the very end.
What's even more sad about the whole Cattman situation is that no one every complained about fitment issues with the 2.5" system. Then the 3" system comes along and there are fitment issues. A lot of people upgraded from 2.5" systems to 3" systems, including myself, and Cattman had the ***** to blame the car and not his product. Total weasel move. Some are the very same maximas that never had fitment issues with the first system! The car didn't change, so that leaves the product.
Bingo. Half the people stayed quiet because Brian asked them to. I picked my A32 3" catback up from his house and he had requested that I contact him directly if there were any issues instead of posting them on the org.
I had banging issues, contacted him and got the run around. Its your hanger bushings, every car is different, etc etc.
Nice guy and was interested in my car and my plans for it, even tried to talk me out of getting the 3" system since I still had a NA stock cam 3.0 at the time. But the 'gold cattman standard' was tarnished when he only pointed fingers when there were problems with his parts.
At the end of the day I sold my cattman 3" catback 6 years ago and bought it back just a month or two ago, so what do I know
02-24-2021, 01:02 AM
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I'll copy and paste what I wrote in the other exhaust thread. Based on what you are saying, it appears the 3" catback turned out way better for the 5th gen compared to the 4th gens.
There is/was clear evidence that Cattman did not stand behind his products at the very end. Once he was called out, he blamed the car stating that "every Maxima is different/all Maximas are not built the same", and it wasn't his product's fault. Very lame that he wouldn't take responsibility. You've been around long enough, you should remember the fiasco with the 3" catbacks fitting poorly and the banging issues. At least half the people in the group deal had banging issues, the other half stayed quit while only a few people reported no issues. Headers and TI bar were/are great. The 2.5" system was pretty decent too. Seemed like a cool guy when I spoke to him on the phone, but his ego/pride got in his own way at the very end.
What's even more sad about the whole Cattman situation is that no one every complained about fitment issues with the 2.5" system. Then the 3" system comes along and there are fitment issues. A lot of people upgraded from 2.5" systems to 3" systems, including myself, and Cattman had the ***** to blame the car and not his product. Total weasel move. Some are the very same maximas that never had fitment issues with the first system! The car didn't change, so that leaves the product.
There is/was clear evidence that Cattman did not stand behind his products at the very end. Once he was called out, he blamed the car stating that "every Maxima is different/all Maximas are not built the same", and it wasn't his product's fault. Very lame that he wouldn't take responsibility. You've been around long enough, you should remember the fiasco with the 3" catbacks fitting poorly and the banging issues. At least half the people in the group deal had banging issues, the other half stayed quit while only a few people reported no issues. Headers and TI bar were/are great. The 2.5" system was pretty decent too. Seemed like a cool guy when I spoke to him on the phone, but his ego/pride got in his own way at the very end.
What's even more sad about the whole Cattman situation is that no one every complained about fitment issues with the 2.5" system. Then the 3" system comes along and there are fitment issues. A lot of people upgraded from 2.5" systems to 3" systems, including myself, and Cattman had the ***** to blame the car and not his product. Total weasel move. Some are the very same maximas that never had fitment issues with the first system! The car didn't change, so that leaves the product.
02-26-2021, 01:48 PM
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Dont know much about this brand but I stumbled upon this
https://www.bodykits.com/i-24335371-...m-88-1496.html
https://www.bodykits.com/i-24335371-...m-88-1496.html
02-28-2021, 10:13 PM
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This is a good thread, because my Maxim’s exhaust is shot. I’ve taken it to 2 shops, and they just cut and weld sections, but I really want to replace the muffler and whole exhaust.
I’ve seen something on rock auto, anyone go on there? I don’t care for loud exhaust systems... just something quiet
I’ve seen something on rock auto, anyone go on there? I don’t care for loud exhaust systems... just something quiet
03-29-2021, 07:35 PM
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This car was a steal congrats on the purchase and the car is very much in mint condition. I was wondering did this car ever been in a accident or any body work because the car is in perfect condition. It looks as if it was in a clean condition with a clean title. I know a company other than megan who is still making the exhaust for our cars and megan was still making the exhaust for our cars. I am looking at the site they still make catbacks but you must call and talk to nelson the megan mang or parts specialists. I do know who still off the bat has and still makes the catbacks only and has them in stock now as we speak but you must shoot me a PM. I would give the org the info and everyone the info here but some reason,I feel as if I try to help the org with maxima performance exhaust to be in production the parts not enough support or they would tell me that they need more time to produce and they say they will spend tons of money to make them and they think no ones gonna buy them I had a thread about this exhaust up for all of us but it went where or they would put a parts a demand of no productions for the maxima and the parts. I can get it going again but we need more people to chime in for the production.. This was the headers and exhaust combo production.
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