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Old 04-15-2002 | 11:19 AM
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FSTB causes less GRIP ON THE ROAD!!!

I don't know if it's just me or something but ever since I put my FSTB on, although my car feels less like a boat which i like when turning, everytime i make a turn now, my car is making that eeeerrr sound, u know like i'm skidding and sh*t and i feel myself sliding a little if i make turn hard enough....my tires are also wearing out a LOT faster than usual...maybe it's just me but this has been happening since i put my FSTB on...i'm still gonna keep it on due to the fact that my turns are nicer but my boat technique of turning made me stay on the road all the way and i never made that eeeerrrr sound with my tires when i didn't have it....

It's also REAL, matter of fact, TOO EASY for me to like burn out when making turns...when i had boat motion, i had to be doing like 30+ to do turn burn out type thing but now, even at like 20 mph, if i turn just right, i'll hear my tires spinning during a hard turn...i think my tires are wearing...luckily my rims with the descently new tires will be coming on soon but dam...this is funny....am i the only one feeling this? Not too much of a bad thing just a awkward thing.....
Old 04-15-2002 | 11:22 AM
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you need to study oversteer and understeer and what suspension components cause each and what they do to the maxima. Yes, you will have less flex when you turn and this will cause additional understeer, get a RSB and it will help balence things out a little.
Old 04-15-2002 | 11:22 AM
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Do you have a RSB as well? Sometimes when you have both FSTB & RSB on, it causes the car to skid on faster than usual turns. So that might be a possibility of why what your saying is happening.
Old 04-15-2002 | 11:24 AM
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I'm sorry man. Go read a book on suspension systems before making some inaccurate statement like that. Maybe someone here will take the time to explain it to you.
Old 04-15-2002 | 11:26 AM
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Are you referring to my post? If you are, I heard it from someone else. It's not my statement. But I just felt like writing it. So digest it.
Old 04-15-2002 | 11:34 AM
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No it's directed at the orginal poster but it would be a good idea to research the subject of suspensions also(given what I read in your post)

Originally posted by Maximariven
Are you referring to my post? If you are, I heard it from someone else. It's not my statement. But I just felt like writing it. So digest it.
Old 04-15-2002 | 11:43 AM
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i'm not saying there are ways to avoid the skidding JEff and i'm pretty sure a RSB will balance it back out, i'm just stating my feel on what the FSTB has done to my traction since i put it in....i do have an RSB (addco) ordered from custom maxima but i haven't put it on yet. better struts and stuff might make turns better but just stating my opinion and feel on what happens to maxima's if they ONLY have FSTB since it makes front stronger but keeps back still loose...sorry if i upsetted u....
Old 04-15-2002 | 11:53 AM
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When I installed my FSTB, my results were the direct opposite. I had a stock suspension at the time also. But then again, I know what it was designed for and what to expect from it. And no, you haven't "upsetted" me.

Originally posted by meccanoble
i'm not saying there are ways to avoid the skidding JEff and i'm pretty sure a RSB will balance it back out, i'm just stating my feel on what the FSTB has done to my traction since i put it in....i do have an RSB (addco) ordered from custom maxima but i haven't put it on yet. better struts and stuff might make turns better but just stating my opinion and feel on what happens to maxima's if they ONLY have FSTB since it makes front stronger but keeps back still loose...sorry if i upsetted u....
Old 04-15-2002 | 12:04 PM
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Read all of these articles ... please...
Old 04-15-2002 | 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by mzmtg
Read all of these articles ... please...
looking back at all those articles, i wish i paid more attention in my physics classes...
Old 04-15-2002 | 12:54 PM
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Well, one way to find out is take the bar out.
Dont know what type of FSTB you have but some of
them, you can remove the middle part in case you don;t want to mess with the nuts at strut towers.
Old 04-15-2002 | 01:01 PM
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flex=bad, when u have so much body roll so much force is put on the outside tires, stiffening up the body to allow all tires to take on turns is a good thing, basically ur wheels and tires will make a helluva difference, every since my springs went on, i have almost no understeer anymore, i just have my back tires sliding a lil more cuz they suck cuz of stock wheels, but its def better then understeer. at the same time that one kid had a point, with a stiff front and loose rear specially on those gle's and gxe's it makes sense, o yea and im dumb, so correct me where i led astray.
Old 06-17-2006 | 05:56 PM
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Maximas Have Chain or timing Belt?

Hello, I am a new memeber of this forum, ince I can not post questions because new members are not permited to do so I am sending this question as a reply of a different topic. I just Bougth a used 97 maxima GLE and have
a question about the timing belt. Maximas use timig belt or timing chain? If
it comes with timing chain, does it need to be replaced at 60,000 Miles like
on Toyotas timing belts? or how often it needs to be replaced?
Thanks for any help on this subject,
Rick787
Old 06-17-2006 | 06:46 PM
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you cant ask questions yet and you just hijacked this guys thread........but to answer you it has a chain and should last as long as the motor it doesnt need changing.....
Old 06-17-2006 | 06:52 PM
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Do the 5th gen guys not know what you are talking about or something?
Old 06-17-2006 | 09:54 PM
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I actually felt the same thing when I put my FSTB on. Handling was more consistent, solid, and predictable, but total grip was less. I suspect that was because of torsional flex helping to keep the inside wheel on the ground. If that's the case, I definitely don't miss the extra grip... Grip due to chassis flex would be inconsistent and easily upset. If not, though, I still don't miss the extra grip because the limit is still way too high for me to be testing it on the street.

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Old 06-17-2006 | 11:01 PM
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What you guys are experiencing is called "weight transfer" at the front wheels. During cornering, weight is transfered from one side of the car to another. Without an FSTB, the front end of the car flexes making the car harder to control at hard turns. It would seem like one side of the car wants to go towads a different direction than the other. The outside strut tower tries to take most of the load applied to it when the weight transfer occurs. With the FSTB, the front end of the car is connected together at the strut towers making the car more stable. Thus both outside and inside strut towers share the load applied at the outside tower during weight transfer. Because both towers are now connected together the inside front wheel goes up in the air since it is un-loaded because of the weight transfer. The strut tower bar is now in tension as the outside front wheel takes the load of the weight transfer. They call this 100% weight transfer.

Read more here.

Took me a few minutes to google this information.
Old 06-17-2006 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DR-Max
What you guys are experiencing is called "weight transfer" at the front wheels. During cornering, weight is transfered from one side of the car to another. Without an FSTB, the front end of the car flexes making the car harder to control at hard turns. It would seem like one side of the car wants to go towads a different direction than the other. The outside strut tower tries to take most of the load applied to it when the weight transfer occurs. With the FSTB, the front end of the car is connected together at the strut towers making the car more stable. Thus both outside and inside strut towers share the load applied at the outside tower during weight transfer. Because both towers are now connected together the inside front wheel goes up in the air since it is un-loaded because of the weight transfer. The strut tower bar is now in tension as the outside front wheel takes the load of the weight transfer. They call this 100% weight transfer.

Read more here.

Took me a few minutes to google this information.

Nice, so that means I might as well go for the RSTB, too huh?
Old 06-18-2006 | 12:21 AM
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Nice 4 year old thread

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Old 06-18-2006 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick787
Hello, I am a new memeber of this forum, ince I can not post questions because new members are not permited to do so I am sending this question as a reply of a different topic. I just Bougth a used 97 maxima GLE and have
a question about the timing belt. Maximas use timig belt or timing chain? If
it comes with timing chain, does it need to be replaced at 60,000 Miles like
on Toyotas timing belts? or how often it needs to be replaced?
Thanks for any help on this subject,
Rick787
Old 06-18-2006 | 11:09 AM
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i thought the whole thingwith our cars was that RSB is more useful..? so why would u get the FSTB frist..?

GET BOTH AND ULL BE HAPPY... and also check ur tires... and pressure...
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