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Old 05-29-2002, 11:40 AM
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Y-pipe enough to beat a 5-speed lude

the prelude people talk so much junk in my town,,, is a y-pipe annd intake on a auto max good enough to beat a 99+ manual prelude?


if i need more tell me, has to be cheap
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Preludes are sleepers, much like our maxima. I don't know the full detail of those cars, but some of them came with 200 hp 4 bangers. They pretty much had S2000 motors less 40 hp. They've got alot of highway power. I've only challenged them (twice) on the highway, and before my Y pipe, we were well matched. Suprised all hell out of me.

Since you're auto and I'm 5 speed your best chance to take them is from zero, that way the VQ will have a jump on the 4 banger. The VTEC doesn't really become appreciable until the highway.

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I'm going to go with "no."
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Old 05-29-2002, 11:56 AM
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I raced a Lude with exhaust an who knows what else from a 30 mph roll before I had my MEVI. (Only had Y-Pipe and Pop-Charger)

I pulled on him from 30-70, and then he slowly pulled ahead of me from 80-100, then we shut down.

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Guys guys, ok,

I will not try to get frustrated, since this thread is not one of those "I killed a prelude" type of posts.

If you've never raced a 5th gen prelude(or was it 4th gen?), and honestly dont know how a Max will match up against it, ok, let me tell you.

NO 4TH GEN MAX AINT GONNA KILL NO PRELUDESS

There, I let you know in southwestern virginia style.

My friend has an auto prelude(latest body style), and we raced more than 10 times. On paper, prelude and 4thgen max have similar 1/4 times, because 1/4 only takes you only up to about 85-90mph. After 90mph, you will be reading Lude's rear license plate.


However, when I raced my friends lude, i was 100% stock, which was last year. I'll let you know what happens next time we race.

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2k maxes are different story, with their variable intake. Even after 90, no stock prelude will catch up to a 2k max. I know this, because my twin brother has a ghettoed out 2k max.

If you wanna know why his max is ghetto, search for ArcticMax and look for yourself. (hint, he likes spray paint VERY much)
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Don't forget us 4th Gens with the MEVI, which is the same thing as the Variable Intakes on 5th Gens.

I think I'll go Lude hunting after work.



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Yes!! you are right!

Originally posted by iansw
Don't forget us 4th Gens with the MEVI, which is the same thing as the Variable Intakes on 5th Gens.

I think I'll go Lude hunting after work.



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Let us know how it turns out!! I'm leaning more and more towards the ME VI instead of NOS!!
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Re: Yes!! you are right!

Originally posted by hokiemax


Let us know how it turns out!! I'm leaning more and more towards the ME VI instead of NOS!!
Now you know you will get more ponies out of Nitrous oxide versus the ME VI. You will enjoy it on the highway and at the track. I personally would go with Nitrous over the ME VI. Thats just my opinion.
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Old 05-29-2002, 04:07 PM
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Re: Re: Yes!! you are right!

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Now you know you will get more ponies out of Nitrous oxide versus the ME VI. You will enjoy it on the highway and at the track. I personally would go with Nitrous over the ME VI. Thats just my opinion.
But nitrous is illegal on the street!
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I've raced a 4th gen Si 160hp and won from a roll, from a stop, still won, but not as much.

Raced a 4th gen VTEC on the highway, 110mph+ and it was dead even, and I shifted too early (122mph) and after that he pulled, plus I had a 200 lbs passenger I know, excuses.


Raced 4 5th gen 5spd's stock to lightly modded from a dead stop, I had emm til 55 mph, he started pulling, the he shifted and I caught up a little, I won by a fender at the 1/4, but after that I'm sure he woulda walked me. But look at my sig for mods. I got a few of them.

early 5th gens (1997) had 195hp, later versions have 200, 4th gen VTEC's have 190.
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Lude will win on highway. Max will win from stop. Damn VTEC.
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Originally posted by darksands
Lude will win on highway. Max will win from stop. Damn VTEC.
I re-iterate. With the MEVI the VTEC wouldn't be a factor.

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Originally posted by iansw


I re-iterate. With the MEVI the VTEC wouldn't be a factor.

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Ian, the MEVI provide a better top end power right? When I went to the track, it seem like after 3rd gear hit, power just wasn't there. Will the MEVI solve this?


Btw, will you have another group buy later on?
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Old 05-29-2002, 08:11 PM
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I raced one ...

...abou a month or so ago on I94...
He had some type of N1 muffler, I came from behind at about 69-71mph
to see his mods/check him out cause ha had some nice rims as well...

along his side he went WOT...and I was like OK baby it's on..baby let's go...at first he gained 1/4 car length untill 110ish..when my CAI/YPIPE/RT/GREDDY went super/redine/pull!..my engine sounded "LIKE ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE." Air was flowing IN and right OUT!

I continued to "power" past him about 1.75 to 2.0 car lengths. We took it to the 130ish zone and had to chill at the next big expressway merge/divide. Sorta scary. I was like..THANK GOD FOR THE YPIPE!

Get the Ypipe, Get the Ypipe, Get the Ypipe...Get the...
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Old 05-29-2002, 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by Cumalot


Ian, the MEVI provide a better top end power right? When I went to the track, it seem like after 3rd gear hit, power just wasn't there. Will the MEVI solve this?


Btw, will you have another group buy later on?
See for yourself. This Dyno was in 3rd Gear.

www.cyberhub.net/intake

I would do another GD, but Cranman is more inexpensive than me anyway, and I'm not making any cash. I decided to help out the few people who were loyal to me, and I'm done, unless Cranman decides to stop selling, then I will be doing it every now and then just to make sure people get one.

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Re: Guys guys, ok,

Originally posted by hokiemax
I will not try to get frustrated, since this thread is not one of those "I killed a prelude" type of posts.

If you've never raced a 5th gen prelude(or was it 4th gen?), and honestly dont know how a Max will match up against it, ok, let me tell you.

NO 4TH GEN MAX AINT GONNA KILL NO PRELUDESS

There, I let you know in southwestern virginia style.

My friend has an auto prelude(latest body style), and we raced more than 10 times. On paper, prelude and 4thgen max have similar 1/4 times, because 1/4 only takes you only up to about 85-90mph. After 90mph, you will be reading Lude's rear license plate.


However, when I raced my friends lude, i was 100% stock, which was last year. I'll let you know what happens next time we race.

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2k maxes are different story, with their variable intake. Even after 90, no stock prelude will catch up to a 2k max. I know this, because my twin brother has a ghettoed out 2k max.

If you wanna know why his max is ghetto, search for ArcticMax and look for yourself. (hint, he likes spray paint VERY much)
Well the 95-99 auto's are quicker to 100 than the 00 and 01 auto's are that has been proven by many of us here and tests that variable intake doesnt do much for them with all of the added weight and horrible tranny on them. Heck my 97 is quicker than my 01 was, now my 02 is another story!
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I have to tell that the preludes are quick but not that quick, up in colorado at the local track i have seen 97-99 ludes run in the low 17's with exhaust thats compared to my 16.5 in my auto with the mods i have so up to 85 which is what i trap at up hear they are quite a bit slower.
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Old 05-30-2002, 11:36 AM
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sooooooooooo


a y-pipe and VI from over seas will do it,... does the VI cost like 490-520

and mybe a trans go shift kit with mobil 1 synthenic tranny fuild


if i did that without VI u think i will have a chance?
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Ludes arent quick.

Unless you are on a circuit track, Ludes are not quicker than 4th gen Maxes. You have to hit 100mph before they will pull away. I am talking stick vs. stick or auto vs. auto. Stick vs. auto ...whoever has stick wins if they can drive worth a damn. I raced my buddies auto 2001 Lude with AEM cold air intake...I had my 1996 Explorer Sport that is stock.

All I have to say is that he didnt pass me till I hit 70mph. By that time he was pulling away very strong but who cares??? I was driving a 4000 pound truck with 160 hp vs. his 195hp and 2900lb car. Plus I would like to see the drag coefficients at this speed...I know my truck was fighting the wind like crazy.

PS-Ludes SUCK MAXIMA
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me experience

my friend has a prelude (2k1 auto) and he beat me sometimes and I beat him sometimes (98 auto). However when we do a 0-60 test (many times), my time was about .5 s better than his. But the prelude has way better stability on the corners.


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4 or 5 kids at my high school got preludes and i rape them all on the highway, and i dont got any mods installed. maybe its cause they suck at driving...
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I have a 97 Maxima SE(auto) with intake and exhaust. I was going about 40 down a street the other night when a prelude pulled up next to me. We gave eachother a few glances and then we both took off at the same time. Those cars are really quick and I was about a 1/4 of a car length on him the whole way. But another time I raced one from a dead stop he beat me by about 1 1/2 cars. Oh well.
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Old 05-31-2002, 11:35 AM
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if i put a ypipe with my intake, trans go shift kit, and mobil one tranny fluid u think i should beat him from 0-75+
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