My friend has a 97 Grand Prix GT (Not the GTP, the non-supercharged one with 190 in it). He wanted to race me, and i was just curious if you think i could beat him. He has an auto. My car is a 96 black se with auto. Thanks

 

If you're stock.....don't run him from a stop....his first gear will CRUSH you....and you'll never catch up.....from a roll they are about DEAD even.

 

Are u sure that the n/a 3.8 is as fast as the 4th gen auto max? i know the s/c is quick as hell...but unsure about the L36 engine in the grand prix.

 

I smoked a SCed GTP on the highway this past saturday but did not post it. But I dont even count on this post, if you were stick you will be even from a start and after third gear with a Ypipe and CAI you might have taken him.

 

Get the Ypipe...Get the Ypipe...Get the Ypipe...

...or you will lose. Get the Ypipe...and you will win.

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My Mom has the Grand Prix GT. I drive it all the time. She doesn't pump gas so I take it and fill it for her and I always borrow it when my car is getting work done on it (getting hail damaged repaired right now ). Anyway, I think the cars are very well matched. The Maxima definetly likes to go with little pedal movement. The Grand Prix on the otherhand needs quite a bit of pressure on the pedal to get moving, but if you floor it, she will go! I know the Grand Prix definetly can handle the hills with a lot more ease than the maxima. In low gears I also think the Grand Prix has the Max in the getting up to speed department. At hiway speeds, I would say the max all the way! Just my experience and on a side note, the max is much more fun to drive, more comfortable (both have leather and all options) and MUCH quieter and less rattly and sqeeky. If you factor that in, who cares about speed. Although the max wouold be great with the heads up display. That thing is great!

 

...Y...Pipe.

 

prey that the gt has a rev limiter, like the ones they rent out at avis - all of their cars are limited to 4K rpm - lol

 

doesn't the gran prix gt have the same engine as the grand am gt? beacause i raced my friend's 01 grand am gt and beat him by a good 2 and 1/2 cars up to 100 or so....but i am a 5spd

 

They are like high 7's to 60 so it will be close for the Auto Max. He might get you initially because they have great low end but you will pass him at about 35 mph or so and he want catch ya!

 

No...I sell Pontiac's for a living. The Grand Prix is running a 3.8L-V6, whereas the Grand Am GT is running a 3.4L V6 w/ only 175hp @ the crank. They're pretty similar in performance due to the weight differences, but definitely not the same motor.

I'd say if you're bone stock that the GP may be more than a handful for you.

 

ok, since you sell pontiacs you sell firebirds and i am curious about something....my friend has a 97 camaro RS with the 3.8 V6 and i always stomp him i mean by like 3+ cars by 100 but the other night a raced a 2001 camaro RS v6 and he said he had the 3.8 also but i only beat him by about a car and a half by the time we hit 100. i was really suprised! are there any differences at all? maybe somethings wrong with my car?

Trevor

 

I wouldn't worry too much about your car. There is almost a 25hp difference between the '97 and the '01 Firebird (Or as we like to call them: TransCamero). Plus he might not have been completely stock/ different driver/ etc. Could've been almost anything. The only differences that I've noticed was the claimed HP between the two.

Who knows? Your buddy's '97 might have been built on an early morning Monday or a late afternoon Friday after the union workers got done drinking their lunch.

 

aHA! so there IS a difference. that bastard... he was stock btw, i talked to him for quite awhile (there was a group of about 30 cars) thanks for shedding some light!

 

Dude you should be able to beat him they weigh like 3500 lbs compared to about 3100 for the max plus the grand prix deosn't have much more hp compared to the max. I know of granb am gt's that run low 17's where i am, and i run 16.5 with my max so i would say that if the grand am and gp gt are same as performance, that you should beat him.
Ryan

 

MAX2000JP had a loner 4th gen auto a few months back and we ran it against my brothers Grand Prix GT. From a roll they are DEAD EVEN....all the way up to the GT's speed limiter at 108. From a dead stop...the GT CONSISTANTLY puts about a car and a half on the max in first gear...and then holds it.

We also ran my brothers GT against Chi99Limited's auto max when he had intake and y-pipe....same result out of a light....but by 70mph the I/Y auto max is passing the Grand Prix....

 

You miss read my post, bro. I wasn't talking about the weight difference between the Max and the GP. I was talking about the difference between the GRAND AM and the GRAND PRIX!

 

i think u should be able to take him....my bro in law
has a grand prix GT and he let me drive it...and my
bro in law also drove my bro's I30...he said the I30
is faster than the grand prix..i think so too
so race him...it'll be a good race

 

BriGuy is right they Grand Prix hauls *** out of the hole. When i raced him the only mod i had was intake. He got about 1 to 1.5 cars on my to about 20 then i blew by him at aroud 60 or so. I would say race him....96 are supposed to be the fastest year, just do it up to about 90 or so.

 

i beat one with my 170 hp 5spd cougar on the highway and off the line...that doesnt say too much for the grand prix now does it...i pulled about a car on the highway up to a 100 and car and half off the line up to about 70 if i remember