Turbo kit for 5th gens?
07-28-2002, 11:45 AM
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Turbo kit for 5th gens?
So I have had many many requests for 5th gen turbo kit. Unfortunately, I have a 4th gen, that's why it hasn't come through yet. If anyone is willing to give their car up for 3-4 weeks (I know it's a long time), we could put one on and the shop would probably be willing to give a really good discount. I have not put this idea forward to them, but the way the 4th gen kits have been selling, I think they would be willing to invest in this.
If you're interested, please email me
Thanks!
Nigel
If you're interested, please email me
Thanks!
Nigel
07-28-2002, 12:27 PM
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Unfortunately I'm not in the position to do this right now but to give others an idea, what would be the total cost? Do you prefer a car with specific mods going into this? If so what mods?
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Someone with the funds and a 2nd car PLEASE step up!!
07-28-2002, 12:31 PM
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Re: Turbo kit for 5th gens?
Originally posted by turbo97SE
So I have had many many requests for 5th gen turbo kit. Unfortunately, I have a 4th gen, that's why it hasn't come through yet. If anyone is willing to give their car up for 3-4 weeks (I know it's a long time), we could put one on and the shop would probably be willing to give a really good discount. I have not put this idea forward to them, but the way the 4th gen kits have been selling, I think they would be willing to invest in this.
If you're interested, please email me
Thanks!
Nigel
So I have had many many requests for 5th gen turbo kit. Unfortunately, I have a 4th gen, that's why it hasn't come through yet. If anyone is willing to give their car up for 3-4 weeks (I know it's a long time), we could put one on and the shop would probably be willing to give a really good discount. I have not put this idea forward to them, but the way the 4th gen kits have been selling, I think they would be willing to invest in this.
If you're interested, please email me
Thanks!
Nigel
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07-28-2002, 02:09 PM
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Re: Turbo kit for 5th gens?
Originally posted by turbo97SE
So I have had many many requests for 5th gen turbo kit. Unfortunately, I have a 4th gen, that's why it hasn't come through yet. If anyone is willing to give their car up for 3-4 weeks (I know it's a long time), we could put one on and the shop would probably be willing to give a really good discount. I have not put this idea forward to them, but the way the 4th gen kits have been selling, I think they would be willing to invest in this.
If you're interested, please email me
Thanks!
Nigel
So I have had many many requests for 5th gen turbo kit. Unfortunately, I have a 4th gen, that's why it hasn't come through yet. If anyone is willing to give their car up for 3-4 weeks (I know it's a long time), we could put one on and the shop would probably be willing to give a really good discount. I have not put this idea forward to them, but the way the 4th gen kits have been selling, I think they would be willing to invest in this.
If you're interested, please email me
Thanks!
Nigel
07-28-2002, 02:38 PM
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I just talked to my girlfriend and we can carpool for that amount of time. The only questions I have at this point are the following:
1. Cost
2. Performance gains
3. Warranty/Repairs to the turbo kit since I am in AZ
4. What else could potentially get damaged in the long run?
Cost is by far the biggest concern because I have a dumb, gay wedding coming up. But I could drive up to CO, meet you at the airport and hop on a $59 flight back. I would buy a round trip ticket, so I would need to know a definite date to return to CO in advance.
Let me know......
1. Cost
2. Performance gains
3. Warranty/Repairs to the turbo kit since I am in AZ
4. What else could potentially get damaged in the long run?
Cost is by far the biggest concern because I have a dumb, gay wedding coming up. But I could drive up to CO, meet you at the airport and hop on a $59 flight back. I would buy a round trip ticket, so I would need to know a definite date to return to CO in advance.
Let me know......
07-28-2002, 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by asu174
I just talked to my girlfriend and we can carpool for that amount of time. The only questions I have at this point are the following:
1. Cost
2. Performance gains
3. Warranty/Repairs to the turbo kit since I am in AZ
4. What else could potentially get damaged in the long run?
Cost is by far the biggest concern because I have a dumb, gay wedding coming up. But I could drive up to CO, meet you at the airport and hop on a $59 flight back. I would buy a round trip ticket, so I would need to know a definite date to return to CO in advance.
Let me know......
I just talked to my girlfriend and we can carpool for that amount of time. The only questions I have at this point are the following:
1. Cost
2. Performance gains
3. Warranty/Repairs to the turbo kit since I am in AZ
4. What else could potentially get damaged in the long run?
Cost is by far the biggest concern because I have a dumb, gay wedding coming up. But I could drive up to CO, meet you at the airport and hop on a $59 flight back. I would buy a round trip ticket, so I would need to know a definite date to return to CO in advance.
Let me know......
1. Cost has not been established yet because I wanted to see if anyone would be willing to do this. I will go to the shop tomorrow and ask.
2. Performance gains can vary depending on the condition of the car and any existing mods on the car. Bigger exhaust will yield higher gains. I had CAI and y-pipe when I first dynoed, yielded 176 HP 190 lb-ft. At 4 psi with the turbo I got 267 HP and similar torque and at 9 psi 352 HP and 349 lb-ft torque (all to the wheels) I have a 4th gen.
3. Warranty and repairs is an extremely difficult question to answer. Premature parts failure due to manufacturer's defects are covered. Blown engines are unforutnately not covered. It is too easy to turn up the boost and blow the engine. It's like asking someone to install NOS and guaranteeing that your engine will not blow up in the near or long term. A shop may do it and put a 10 shot for safety. This mod is not for the faint hearted. it yields incredible gain, but just like any other mod has risks. If you use it sensibly (like NOS) your engine will come to no harm. I am currently trying to design a fail-safe device that will shut things down if boost gets too high, but still could be bypassed.
4. In the near to long term, depending on how much boost you intend to run, your clutch (or tranny if you are auto) will go. That's been my experience. My compression hasn't suffered any ... yet but could potentially in the long term.
Again, I want to stress, this is not for the faint-hearted. If you want zero risk, don't boost in any form. I have known of S/C and many instances of NOS where people have blown their engines, this is no different. If you have the appropriate warning gauges to monitor everything, you will minimize this risk (boost gauge, EGT, fuel pressure).
07-28-2002, 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by turbo97SE
Let me answer a couple of questions.
1. Cost has not been established yet because I wanted to see if anyone would be willing to do this. I will go to the shop tomorrow and ask.
2. Performance gains can vary depending on the condition of the car and any existing mods on the car. Bigger exhaust will yield higher gains. I had CAI and y-pipe when I first dynoed, yielded 176 HP 190 lb-ft. At 4 psi with the turbo I got 267 HP and similar torque and at 9 psi 352 HP and 349 lb-ft torque (all to the wheels) I have a 4th gen.
3. Warranty and repairs is an extremely difficult question to answer. Premature parts failure due to manufacturer's defects are covered. Blown engines are unforutnately not covered. It is too easy to turn up the boost and blow the engine. It's like asking someone to install NOS and guaranteeing that your engine will not blow up in the near or long term. A shop may do it and put a 10 shot for safety. This mod is not for the faint hearted. it yields incredible gain, but just like any other mod has risks. If you use it sensibly (like NOS) your engine will come to no harm. I am currently trying to design a fail-safe device that will shut things down if boost gets too high, but still could be bypassed.
4. In the near to long term, depending on how much boost you intend to run, your clutch (or tranny if you are auto) will go. That's been my experience. My compression hasn't suffered any ... yet but could potentially in the long term.
Again, I want to stress, this is not for the faint-hearted. If you want zero risk, don't boost in any form. I have known of S/C and many instances of NOS where people have blown their engines, this is no different. If you have the appropriate warning gauges to monitor everything, you will minimize this risk (boost gauge, EGT, fuel pressure).
Let me answer a couple of questions.
1. Cost has not been established yet because I wanted to see if anyone would be willing to do this. I will go to the shop tomorrow and ask.
2. Performance gains can vary depending on the condition of the car and any existing mods on the car. Bigger exhaust will yield higher gains. I had CAI and y-pipe when I first dynoed, yielded 176 HP 190 lb-ft. At 4 psi with the turbo I got 267 HP and similar torque and at 9 psi 352 HP and 349 lb-ft torque (all to the wheels) I have a 4th gen.
3. Warranty and repairs is an extremely difficult question to answer. Premature parts failure due to manufacturer's defects are covered. Blown engines are unforutnately not covered. It is too easy to turn up the boost and blow the engine. It's like asking someone to install NOS and guaranteeing that your engine will not blow up in the near or long term. A shop may do it and put a 10 shot for safety. This mod is not for the faint hearted. it yields incredible gain, but just like any other mod has risks. If you use it sensibly (like NOS) your engine will come to no harm. I am currently trying to design a fail-safe device that will shut things down if boost gets too high, but still could be bypassed.
4. In the near to long term, depending on how much boost you intend to run, your clutch (or tranny if you are auto) will go. That's been my experience. My compression hasn't suffered any ... yet but could potentially in the long term.
Again, I want to stress, this is not for the faint-hearted. If you want zero risk, don't boost in any form. I have known of S/C and many instances of NOS where people have blown their engines, this is no different. If you have the appropriate warning gauges to monitor everything, you will minimize this risk (boost gauge, EGT, fuel pressure).
07-28-2002, 09:17 PM
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By the way, I am a 2000 Cal spec SE 5 speed.
Mod list:
Berk intake
Frankencar midpipe
Stillen Y pipe
2 1/2" Catback w/ Fucuz Muffler
Again, cost will be the biggest hinderance, so don't get ****ed if I can't do it after you ask your work....... SOMEONE will do it.
Mod list:
Berk intake
Frankencar midpipe
Stillen Y pipe
2 1/2" Catback w/ Fucuz Muffler
Again, cost will be the biggest hinderance, so don't get ****ed if I can't do it after you ask your work....... SOMEONE will do it.
07-28-2002, 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by emax95
This kit sounds very intersting! Will it be priced in the 4-5K range like on the 4th gens? If I went with a T3 turbo would the price be any cheaper? I'm no turbo expert BTW
This kit sounds very intersting! Will it be priced in the 4-5K range like on the 4th gens? If I went with a T3 turbo would the price be any cheaper? I'm no turbo expert BTW
07-28-2002, 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by asu174
By the way, I am a 2000 Cal spec SE 5 speed.
Mod list:
Berk intake
Frankencar midpipe
Stillen Y pipe
2 1/2" Catback w/ Fucuz Muffler
Again, cost will be the biggest hinderance, so don't get ****ed if I can't do it after you ask your work....... SOMEONE will do it.
By the way, I am a 2000 Cal spec SE 5 speed.
Mod list:
Berk intake
Frankencar midpipe
Stillen Y pipe
2 1/2" Catback w/ Fucuz Muffler
Again, cost will be the biggest hinderance, so don't get ****ed if I can't do it after you ask your work....... SOMEONE will do it.
07-28-2002, 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by turbo97SE
Let me answer a couple of questions.
1. Cost has not been established yet because I wanted to see if anyone would be willing to do this. I will go to the shop tomorrow and ask.
2. Performance gains can vary depending on the condition of the car and any existing mods on the car. Bigger exhaust will yield higher gains. I had CAI and y-pipe when I first dynoed, yielded 176 HP 190 lb-ft. At 4 psi with the turbo I got 267 HP and similar torque and at 9 psi 352 HP and 349 lb-ft torque (all to the wheels) I have a 4th gen.
3. Warranty and repairs is an extremely difficult question to answer. Premature parts failure due to manufacturer's defects are covered. Blown engines are unforutnately not covered. It is too easy to turn up the boost and blow the engine. It's like asking someone to install NOS and guaranteeing that your engine will not blow up in the near or long term. A shop may do it and put a 10 shot for safety. This mod is not for the faint hearted. it yields incredible gain, but just like any other mod has risks. If you use it sensibly (like NOS) your engine will come to no harm. I am currently trying to design a fail-safe device that will shut things down if boost gets too high, but still could be bypassed.
4. In the near to long term, depending on how much boost you intend to run, your clutch (or tranny if you are auto) will go. That's been my experience. My compression hasn't suffered any ... yet but could potentially in the long term.
Again, I want to stress, this is not for the faint-hearted. If you want zero risk, don't boost in any form. I have known of S/C and many instances of NOS where people have blown their engines, this is no different. If you have the appropriate warning gauges to monitor everything, you will minimize this risk (boost gauge, EGT, fuel pressure).
Let me answer a couple of questions.
1. Cost has not been established yet because I wanted to see if anyone would be willing to do this. I will go to the shop tomorrow and ask.
2. Performance gains can vary depending on the condition of the car and any existing mods on the car. Bigger exhaust will yield higher gains. I had CAI and y-pipe when I first dynoed, yielded 176 HP 190 lb-ft. At 4 psi with the turbo I got 267 HP and similar torque and at 9 psi 352 HP and 349 lb-ft torque (all to the wheels) I have a 4th gen.
3. Warranty and repairs is an extremely difficult question to answer. Premature parts failure due to manufacturer's defects are covered. Blown engines are unforutnately not covered. It is too easy to turn up the boost and blow the engine. It's like asking someone to install NOS and guaranteeing that your engine will not blow up in the near or long term. A shop may do it and put a 10 shot for safety. This mod is not for the faint hearted. it yields incredible gain, but just like any other mod has risks. If you use it sensibly (like NOS) your engine will come to no harm. I am currently trying to design a fail-safe device that will shut things down if boost gets too high, but still could be bypassed.
4. In the near to long term, depending on how much boost you intend to run, your clutch (or tranny if you are auto) will go. That's been my experience. My compression hasn't suffered any ... yet but could potentially in the long term.
Again, I want to stress, this is not for the faint-hearted. If you want zero risk, don't boost in any form. I have known of S/C and many instances of NOS where people have blown their engines, this is no different. If you have the appropriate warning gauges to monitor everything, you will minimize this risk (boost gauge, EGT, fuel pressure).
07-29-2002, 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by turbo97SE
price should be similar. T3 turbos are indeed cheaper, the T3/T4 is more expensive because it is a hybrid. A lot of people think T3.T4 is cheaper than T4/TO4E. T3 is too small for 3.0L
price should be similar. T3 turbos are indeed cheaper, the T3/T4 is more expensive because it is a hybrid. A lot of people think T3.T4 is cheaper than T4/TO4E. T3 is too small for 3.0L
07-29-2002, 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by asu174
That's what I figured....count me out.. Do the dude's in Kuwait.
That's what I figured....count me out.. Do the dude's in Kuwait.
I am talking about the kit price in mass production. The discounted deal should be less.
07-30-2002, 05:50 PM
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turbo97SE, has anyone stepped up for this yet? Cmon guys, out of all the 5th Gen turbo promises I believe this guy the most. He got it done for the 4th Geners. I can't believe the lack of interest for boost here 
07-30-2002, 07:04 PM
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Hi guys
I spoke to the owner yesterday. They are interested, but usually the first car is the most expensive to do. I had a hard time convincing them to invest in this. I had to pay quite a lot more for mine than the current kits are selling for just because of the time and effort they had to put in to get the first one done.
They did agree to about a $500 discount in price for the first kit compared to the rest of the kits that they will produce for 5th gens. I don't know what the major differences between 5th gens and 4th gens are. Can someone help me out here? I think there is little difference between the 2K and 2K1 and the 4th gens. The 2K2+ are probably more significantly different.
The most important things we are concerned about are MAF and compression ratio, Y pipe style and engine orientation and space. I have looked at 2K but they look very similar to me. Please help me out here.
I spoke to the owner yesterday. They are interested, but usually the first car is the most expensive to do. I had a hard time convincing them to invest in this. I had to pay quite a lot more for mine than the current kits are selling for just because of the time and effort they had to put in to get the first one done.
They did agree to about a $500 discount in price for the first kit compared to the rest of the kits that they will produce for 5th gens. I don't know what the major differences between 5th gens and 4th gens are. Can someone help me out here? I think there is little difference between the 2K and 2K1 and the 4th gens. The 2K2+ are probably more significantly different.
The most important things we are concerned about are MAF and compression ratio, Y pipe style and engine orientation and space. I have looked at 2K but they look very similar to me. Please help me out here.
07-30-2002, 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by turbo97SE
Hi guys
I spoke to the owner yesterday. They are interested, but usually the first car is the most expensive to do. I had a hard time convincing them to invest in this. I had to pay quite a lot more for mine than the current kits are selling for just because of the time and effort they had to put in to get the first one done.
They did agree to about a $500 discount in price for the first kit compared to the rest of the kits that they will produce for 5th gens. I don't know what the major differences between 5th gens and 4th gens are. Can someone help me out here? I think there is little difference between the 2K and 2K1 and the 4th gens. The 2K2+ are probably more significantly different.
The most important things we are concerned about are MAF and compression ratio, Y pipe style and engine orientation and space. I have looked at 2K but they look very similar to me. Please help me out here.
Hi guys
I spoke to the owner yesterday. They are interested, but usually the first car is the most expensive to do. I had a hard time convincing them to invest in this. I had to pay quite a lot more for mine than the current kits are selling for just because of the time and effort they had to put in to get the first one done.
They did agree to about a $500 discount in price for the first kit compared to the rest of the kits that they will produce for 5th gens. I don't know what the major differences between 5th gens and 4th gens are. Can someone help me out here? I think there is little difference between the 2K and 2K1 and the 4th gens. The 2K2+ are probably more significantly different.
The most important things we are concerned about are MAF and compression ratio, Y pipe style and engine orientation and space. I have looked at 2K but they look very similar to me. Please help me out here.
07-30-2002, 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by NuJerseyDrive
turbo97SE, has anyone stepped up for this yet? Cmon guys, out of all the 5th Gen turbo promises I believe this guy the most. He got it done for the 4th Geners. I can't believe the lack of interest for boost here
turbo97SE, has anyone stepped up for this yet? Cmon guys, out of all the 5th Gen turbo promises I believe this guy the most. He got it done for the 4th Geners. I can't believe the lack of interest for boost here
Cheers
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07-31-2002, 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Why don't you wait (edited for spelling mistake) a little on this, Nigel? You should know what I'm referring to.
Why don't you wait (edited for spelling mistake) a little on this, Nigel? You should know what I'm referring to.
sounds like some top secret stuff is going on here
07-31-2002, 09:11 PM
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The 4th gen kit may be almost a direct bolt on for the 00-01. The headers are the same and everything mechanical is almost identicle. The TB may be in a slitely different location but that about it. The 2002's only difference is again a different locatin for the TB. The 4th gen headers work on the 2002 (I have one on). Also the 2002 lacks a fuel return line but that can easaly be fixed.
Just some food for thought, I hope to see this kit come to life.
Just some food for thought, I hope to see this kit come to life.
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