Its unfair to look down on any other make/model as POS. All cars are a pile of junk, there are coupes, sedans, faster, slower, $$$ or $. I chose Maxima because it was the best car for me on the moment I was in the market for a vehicle.

Will I ever buy an R/T Neon? Max serves my needs well. If I get lucky and win the lottery, then I'll buy something more serious to play with than Neon R/T, thats for sure. Should I be delivering pizza in 3-4 years, hell yeah, Neon is the right car for that. No need for dissapointment or flame, its all about respect baby.

 

Everyone needs to pull their panties out of their crotch and calm down. its a new car, it should be fast. i respect that. but i think a lot of people have problems with how the car is made fast. I know honda/acura makes a couple fast cars. but i don't like how they go about and wouldn't want to drive it. same for like a lotus, they're fast as h*ll, but not because of over power - because they're light. i wouldn't want to drive it.

same goes for this neon. ya, its fast, it'll beat my max. but i wouldn't want to drive it, for many reasons. i think many people feel the same way, and rather than explain it out in a big post like this, they sum it up as : it sucks.

 

Watch when the put that motor in the PT crusier. Then we'll really have something to get upset about.

 

Your talking to Kev right?

 

I already said it was cool about the Neon and i wouldn't buy one.. but you said dodge have sh!tty resale value.. i thought that was ironic coming from a maxima owner

what you mean talk to? you mean do i converse with him? yes i do

 

I understand TimW's frustration. I was about to post a thread "Beware the Ferrari 575" in response to this thread. Who gives a crap what some other car has, there's plenty of cars out there that can beat the Maxima, no thanks for bringing to our attention another one, particularly a little crapper like the neon. Sure it costs only $20K, but you get what you pay for, so don't expect this neon to impress anyone. I'd rather drive a Maxima than a nitrous'd CRX or a turboed Neon. Sheesh.

I think we should create a new forum called "Beater cars that aren't slow, but are still POSs". That way these idiots can post about cars that can beat the Maxima in a race, and the rest of us won't have to read about them.

 

haha. You know, say what you will about that Neon, but that's pretty damn sweet.

More HP than an Acura RSX type S...in a neon! woah!

Same HP as the Mustang GT's had back in 96...I wonder how those guys feel...with half the cyls!

 

Some of our more arrogant( if it doesn't apply, let it fly)members when they get smoked by some kid in a lightly modded Neon.

Personally, I am excited at the fact that we are going to be flooded in the next one to two years with much faster cars.

Dodge is following the trend of the Civics, RSX's, WRX's, Matrix etc with a lower priced car which will appeal to the first time car buyer that wants a fast, economical car.

Why some of you guys feel the Maxima is God's chariot is beyond me? I love my car, I love modding it etc. but there are a $hitload of nice cars out there.

In fact, if I wasn't 6'7" I might be driving one of those instead. Hopefully the US will follow some of the trends seen in other countries and start to market and manufacture more fast cars from the factory.

Anyway, let me step off my soapbox for a minute.

Dave in York

 

what i notice in this thread is.. most of the arrogant f#cks are some of the slower maxima owners.. who already know they are going ot get blasted.. so they take the point of.. so what its still a neon.. its still a POS

i can't expect people with cars with no performance to actually respect a car with performance..

the Buick GN looks like something that an old man should be driving.. its huge.. its wierd looking.. but i respect it because of the peformance factor of it

 

Word. I'm 6' 4".


IMHO, this thing could go a few different ways. It can sell like hot cakes cuz it's fast and cheap. It could sell like snails cuz it's too much money for an eco-car. It could lose a lot of sales to the WRX because the WRX is only a few G more and AWD and Japanese.
Heck, if Mitsubishi was smart they'd strap a turbo on the base Lancer and make it faster and cheaper than this new Neon. Screw the $30,000 EVO, sell a Lancer VR-4, turbocharged 0-60 in 5.8 seconds and < $18,000! That will hit the same market this Neon is aiming for, but dead on.

 

The ladies love it when guys flex in a fast Neon!

 

Are you calling us stupid or just owners of slow, unmodded cars?

Until we get another gas crunch like in the 70s, we will keep having slower and slower cars by current standards. I came to terms with the fact that most new sedans would have 200+hp that right away when I got my max in 99. Now, that number will be 300hp. If anyone is having an inferiority complex about your maxima, you better get over it really soon. The majority of cars you're able to pass will be the ones that *let* you. Either get used to it or get out your checkbook for a newer car. Harsh fact of life.

 

i posted the turbo neon a while back, and just got flamed. so its a dogde, so its a neon, so what? its a turbo'ed 4 cyl from the factory for around $20k, how many car companies can claim that?
its a car thats going along with the civic si, sentra spec-v and focus svt, and then beating those cars at what they are made for, economic sporty-ness, am i right? you dont buy a civic si because of its great roomy interior, and buttload of features, you buy it because its decently fast, with sporty touches to it, and cheap sticker price.
if someone came up to you and said, "what would you say if there is a car coming out, has a turbo 4 cyl engine, capable of doing 0-60 in less than 6 seconds and costed around $20k?" wouldn't you think that this would be a sweet car?
i wouldn't get one because i just dont like the way the neon looks, as nice as the turbo version will be, the neon is not appealing to me. but i like dogde as a company, have a 1993 caravan that has 115k miles or so, still runs, no problems. if dogde made a turbo stratus, i might be in line to get one of those.

dont hate, appreciate.

 

Just the name Neon impresses me! Makes me think of quality, refinement, and class. Mackin' out in my fast Neon. Ya baby!!

 

"How do you like my maxima, ladies?" "Hop in!" "Wait, let me remove the baby seat first". doh

 

Maybe we dont all have the same sense of value in car. Performance is secondary to reliabilty and safety to me. Hence, I dont have alot of respect for a turbo Neon. It doesnt bring anything new to the automotive world or raise the bar.

Would I drive one? Well, if it was all I could afford and had to get to work, hell yes. Even if it was green or yellow...

 

You left out "Hey grandma! you like my maxima? Oh yeah.. you're diggin it huh? Hey listen the bus doesnt stop here for another 15, so why dont you just hop on in..."

 

Imagine Kev pulling up to that bus stop?

Kev fears the new Neons let alone the current ones especially the ones with the dual tip muffler mod. Wow those look so cool!!!

 

thats was my point.. if you are not performance orientated you will have no respect for this car.. because to you.. its just a neon.. just like people who are not performance orientated would say.. 2k3 Mustang Cobra. blah.. its still a POS ford.. while i look at it and say holy ****

 

Have any of you ever even sat in a 2nd gen neon? Let alone driven one? Didn't think so.
Well I love my max and all but what was I driving when my max was in the shop getting S**t fixed?.... You guessed it a Neon, my buddy's 01 R/T Neon to be exact. All you guys that are bagging on Dodge build quality are sorely mistaken about the Neon. He has 15k on it and not a single problem so far...and get beats the crap out of it all the time ie HEAVY foot, racing, overall hard driving. At 15k on my Max I had already 2 major visits to the olde service department now up to about 6 major visits and countless others just trying to get them to acknowledge the problems. Based on that alone I would not buy my Max over again if given the chance.

You guys seriously need to look at the facts before mouthing off.
As far as speed his 5sp stays pretty much even with my auto till 50...then i slowly walk him.and his dynos show pretty amazing results as well, his torque shoots straight up to peak at 2k then stays flattill redline, his HP is almost completely linear climbing steadily till redline.

You all need to stop being HATERS and chill out. You do not drive the best car in the world either. "To each their own"

 

Welcome to the internet... please, enjoy your stay.

 

the Interior layout of the Neon is as good if not better than the Max. Thought out very well.
I found myself saying "oh...that is neat" while driving it for two weeks while my car was in the damn shop again.

 

I'll concede that.. You are right. But my main point, which was lost in my dumbass calling it a ford, was that I think the fastest, cheapest car aimed at kids is a bad idea. I'm sure our insurance rates will reflect it.

 

But it may also help thin the herd...

 

i would rather them running around in a low 14 / high 13 second neon than a 10 second supra or a 12 second vette.. and with resale value on DSM's so low now.. its much easier for htem to buy an old eclipse and modify it.. so that aspect we will never get away from.. its the parents to grow their children and not let society do it for them..

 

hmm....



I think I'll pass on picking one of these babys up

 

Kids will do some dumb stuff.. And yeah, I think heavily modded cars are dangerous.. but *in general* they dont want to wrap them around a telephone poll. they have 100s of hours and thousands of dollars to lose. And generally, these cars arent really on the insurance companies radar.

But a trend, a marketing one at that, to put very fast, very small, very cheap cars on the road cant be good. I hope they spent equal amount of time on putting a decent suspension on it.

 

They can't stop because thats the nature of majority of the people on this board.

What are you guys gonna say to the peeps in the Neon when it hands you your ***....."My family car still looks better than yours!"

All this would be a little easier to digest if this were the Viper or Supra board....but no...just a bunch of morons modifying family sedans...

So we have a handful of guys on the board who can hit 13s and 12s...big deal...what group of car enthusiasts dont have a few of these? (especially with boost)

You would rather have a Maxima (with its patented "beam suspension") over a Neon?....Ya well the guy in the M3 would rather have his BMW over the Maxima (and so would I for that matter)

 

I know a kid who had a head gasket go on his Neon at 30k miles. If that is top quality, I don't want it. I realize the Maxima is not the fastest car out, nor the best, but it is fast and roomy and more importantly, still of very good quality. I can respect the fact that the Neon will be fast, but making a fast, cheap car isn't really that hard if you throw quality out the window. I mean dam, I can paint your house for $20 and it'll be done fast and cheap, but it won't last and it'll look like s***. Do you want that. A prime example of quality being left behind is Ford. At first glance one would think that Ford makes pretty good cars for a good price, except when 60k miles roll around and your head gasket goes b/c Ford engineers in all of their wisdom didn't quite understand that using different materials for the block and heads might pose an interesting heat expansion problem for the head gasket. This happened to my parents' Windstar btw. Because of this, I look for quality first. A fast car doesn't do me much good if it breaks right away. And as much as people ***** about Maxima quality, how often do you see head gaskets going out? All cars are going to have some problems, but I don't want ones that leave my car stranded on the side of the road.

 

Toyota also markets the Celica with an Action package for Speed

 

Okay, I just looked at some FACTS. Consumer reports used cars to buy and avoid. Please note where the maxima and neon are.
http://autos.yahoo.com/consumerreports/usedpicks.html

 

"it only looks fast"

 

I had my Nissan transmission blow at 21k miles.....Nissan Quality

and after losing count of how many times YongJun blew his 2k tranny....level 10 looked pretty good :P

 

My problem with this entire thread is that someone decided to post about some POS that happens to be quick in a straight line. There's about 30 gajillion of those, why not post about everyone? No the Maxima is not that fast car (except in its class), but this is a Maxima forum, so it's ok to post about it.

The new neon might be fast in a straight line, but it's still a budget car. I appreciate it's "power", and I'm not worried about losing to it (SCed), it's just ridiculous that people post about some POS and warn us to look out for these. Sheesh!

 

I think you will be surprised by the skidpad numbers...

anyway, it is good to see appreciation of other automobiles....and why not, thread after thread after thread of useless kill stories about evey car on the road

 

Well, I would not buy one because it is to small for me. However, it looks better than most econobox cars out there including the WRX and Sentra Spec V & performance to compete with any.

 

I saw this car at the NY Auto Show in April. It doesn't look that bad. I kinda like it. I also like the WRX. Maybe I have a thing for round headlights.
Also, this is a sport compact car...it will defenitely have a great after market...we should fear. But I don't care, I don't race my parent's maxima.

I want a Spec V..even with the Turbo Neon out. I like Nissan and it has been good to me so far.

 

isn't it also FWD so It can't possibly be better than a WRX except in a straight line. which is never fun anyways

 

GO NEON GO!!!!!!!!!!!

PS Too bad you bought an auto!

 

bwahahahahahahaha.. *gasp* ahahahahahahaha....

'beware' and 'neon' in google image search yields: