How many Maxima owners can say that though. From what my friend told me, Neon head gaskets going at 30k is a known issue, Maxima tranny failures are not. The 2 examples in my original post are instances where it wasn't just 1 or 2 cars which had the problem, but many many more. So many that it became a known issue, just like the TL tranny failures. You don't see threads here counting the number of Maximas with blown trannies do you? No, because while 1 or 2 may be defective, there is no major engineering flaw with them. I'm not familiar with YongJun and his tranny failure issue, but if he's blown that many either a)he's treating his car extremely poorly or b) has incredibly bad luck. No matter the quality of the product, if you treat something bad enough, it will break. Maximas are not the perfect vehicle, nor is any car really(well maybe the McLaren F1 is, but I'll never know ). With that said, I do not believe Neons are a quality product and while calling them a POS may be extreme, I certainly don't want one.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SprintMax
[B]I already said it was cool about the Neon and i wouldn't buy one.. but you said dodge have sh!tty resale value.. i thought that was ironic coming from a maxima owner

hell yes, Nissan retains more value than Dodge! Take Intrepid which is comparable to Maxima GXE when new in pricing. Alright, then open your local classifieds newspaper and find used Max and used Intrepid, same mileage and year, and compare.

 

oh and 'maxima' and 'power' yields



ouch!

 

How much do your rims weigh without tires?

 

How many professionals would buy this car? This car is for "kids" 15-21. I don't care how fast it is going to be... it is a Dodge Neon! All the bodykits, rice and performance mods is not going to make that a Mackin' car.

Believe it or not I would rather drive a 3rd gen Maxima than any Neon!

 

Call it what u wanna call it its still a NEON

 

BTW the head gasket issue is with the 1st gen Neon the 2nd gen is a whole different car. And I am on my 2nd tranny after 30k plus 3 other major servicings on just the tranny add in the 12 other problems that have been serviced as well. I went back and looked at my reciepts and my car has been in the shop for a total of 3.5 weeks in less than 2 years. Build quality my A**.

 

Shut the *** up and trade it in for the Neon then!

PS If you got some 17" snow tires sell them to me cheap. Or buy some of the stuff I have for sale! Thanks and have a nice day!

 

Yes and i regret every day not waiting the 3-5 months to get the 5sp AE in my area at the time I bought my AE. But i needed a car ASAP. Bygones

 

No need to get ****y man,... I am just telling the facts to the less informed.

 

Buy the stuff in my sig and you will destroy your friend with the Neon!

 

I have absolutly no doubt about that.
And if people could afford that then they wouldn't be on this forum.

 

moderators, please lock this thread, it is stupid. i give dodge credit for coming out with an quick econ car. good for them. it should have a good aftermarket support, but i dont think it will sell that well. it should apeal more to younger kids. I am 17 and have a couple friends talking about getting one. the reason i say i dont think it will sell as well as some think is, a wrx is just a quick, but its only 3-4k more, but you get all-wheel drive, amazing handling, amazing aftermarket support, and good ol' foriegn relibility. good job dodge! but which would you choose??

i think this thread has reached the end of its days

 

What is a DTR Maxima? Did your parents let you put a "DTR"??? badge on their car?

That new Neon is for people who were born in the 80's (kinda scary).

 

What is BugNout? Did your parents own an insect repellant company?

 

Ask your mom!

 

Wow. Don't quit that day job Jay Leno

 

Sure thing big shot!

 

Okay skippy!

 

GO NEON GO!!!

 

You know, after getting banned once, one would think you would at LEAST come up with different jokes.

 

I've noticed only accleration being mentioned as a benchmark in this thread. Obviously handling and braking are areas in which I believe the Neon will carve the Max a new a$$hole.
I think it would be fun to have that neon as a weekend corner carver, but as a daily driver I'll take the MAX.

 

I sucks that you've had so many problems with your Max, but this is my second and as of yet, I have had no major problems with either(knock on wood). I don't claim to be a Neon expert, I just used that as an example. Maybe the new Neon is great. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread. Who knows, but to me it doesn't matter because i don't believe the Neon is a quality car. As with my Ford example, it will be a long time before I would ever consider them, no matter how good their cars our. Once a company loses its reputation for quality, it takes a long time to get it back, much longer than it took to lose it. The 1st gen Neon wasn't that long ago and in my mind still factors in to whether or not I believe it to be a quality car. When I bought my 02 max, it was with the knowledge that the 3rd gen i had was still working very well after 10+ yrs of abuse. To me, that speaks of the quality of the Maxima line. Of course, not all Maxima are perfect. If I were in your shoes, I probably would be ****ed off at Nissan too, but you are in the minority here. How many 1st gen Neons had gasket problems? How many 95 Windstars had gasket problems? The answer, many. I believe it is the number of failures that means the most when looking at the quality of the line, as an outside observer not having had a Maxima with problems of course. While I understand your point of view, I really can't see how you could possibly think the Neon is a quality car relative to the Maxima. To me, looking at the two only makes obvious the defiencies in the Neon. All in all, we are entitled to our opinions. I'll keep mine, you keep yours. It doesn't really matter to me if you think the Neon is great, but don't try to convince others of something that simply isn't true.

 

Jokes?
You always address me first with some nonsense!
Go buy a Neon or something!

 

*insert phony laugh track here*

 

 

Yea the Neon SRT4 is going to be quick, but its still a NEON. It will no doubt have a decent aftermarket, but so does a LS1 or Mustang. I just cant see paying that much money for a economy car and especially a Chrysler(which IMO is the worst domestic brand). For the money you pay for those things you can get a new Stang GT or a base LS1.

 

 

FYI, the thread dies soon.. wrap it up

 

About time.......

 

Interesting, we (most) will spent big $$$ to "beat" a GS/540/M3..., and feel good about ourselves and talk about all the kills we have had over these cars that are "above" us.

Our attitudes are just like the BMW crowd, "Who cares if that Jap POS can beat me, it's still just a POS JAP Max". "I would rather pay $$ more and get a real car." "Did you see the rear end on that new Max it looks like sh*t, who the h*ll would pay that much money for a car so ugly".....

All it tells me is that Nissan needs to seperate it's self that much more Again.

Hat's off to the Neon for putting it's foot up many cars A@@ that cost a whole lot more, and it's stock.

My point, if you act like the snobs and a@@holes you hate, what make you any different, other that being lower on the latter.

 

Word.

 

Your missing the point that its a economy car, just like a Civic. Yes it has a turbo which is its major selling point. It isnt a great bang for the buck considering it costs 20k. You can get a Mustang GT or F-body, which is a better car and is quicker. Not hating here....Most people on this board can afford to buy the SRT and chose not to.

 

I'm really not a Neon person, but here is one that beat a viper at the track.

http://www.rwpstyles.com/videos/dodg...rag%20race.MPG

Wait a few sec for the video to download.

I believe it is a full drag Neon and if I'm not mistaken runs in the All Motor Class, but still is embarrassing for the viper guy.

 

It's cool, the Max is a Jap family sedan to the BMW's And, you can get a better car for a little more money. We (the Max Klan) race WRX's and it's just a turbo'd economy car, think about the SE-R Spec V, or that Vibe thing for 16+K.

If you had the choice of getting a car that can got 0-60 in the "high 5's" with decent size and handling over a truck, or a car that costs ~4K that can barely beat you, most people into bang for buck would jump on it.

I'm not saying I like the car or anything like that, but (many) people here base soooo much on speed and who they can or cann't beat, this is one case that the Max would most likely come up on the short end of the stick against a car it "should" beat, given a 10+K price difference.

 

i love it !!!! there's nothing like a sleeper.

We like to hear people say, Damn is that a Maxima

need we say more

 

A BMW is 15k dollars more than a Maxima, so how can you realisticly compare the 2 for value??? A Neon is a 11k economy car at heart and just because they slapped a turbo on it I am not impressed. It isnt that good of a bang for the buck.

 

At least they finally got rid of the three speed automatic they used to have.

I rented a 2000 (new body sytle) neon; it had high, medium, low for gears. Yes a 3-speed automatic. All of the autos were 3-speed.

And at the track I beat an R/T 2k1 with my 2000 Hyundai elantra (16.4s); so If this car is keeping up to your max until 50 you better have your car checked out. And if I'm correct these too have archaic three-speed automatic transmissions.

I can't take a neon seriously when up until 2001 they have had 3 speed transmissions.

 

Which BMW? I never compared them for value, Max and BMW.

????? MSRP a resonablly equiped neon is 14-16K.

Spec V is about 19K loaded. One could argue that the Max is just a family sedan with more HP, so why should I pay more for that.


Edmunds:
Despite the long list of serious gear, the SRT-4 is expected to come in at just $19,995; according to Dodge, this makes it the fastest production car available for less than $20,000. Sounds like a bargain to us, and we expect the SRT-4 to receive a warm reception when it hits dealerships in early 2003.

This really isn't about value, but that's cool also. It's just cars.

 

wow! your ignorance is amazing. DTR is my initials, and my parents maxima?? my maxima is 100% mine, payed for by me. i worked and saved and have a d*mn nice car in my oppinion. so keep your stupid worthless comments to yourself. no one cares. if you have a problem with my post or name, PM me, dont waste other peoples time.