DIRECT 2k2 6speed vs. CL-S 6speed comparison
anyway this conversation with you is a bit to civil for my taste.. i am going to back away from this one in favor of an argument in another thread..
hope you don't mind
hope you don't mind
Originally posted by BugNout
Ya its nice fo' sho'

I wish I had Russ's job with his CL-S convertible. Everyone knows Russ gets all da ladies!
Ya its nice fo' sho'

I wish I had Russ's job with his CL-S convertible. Everyone knows Russ gets all da ladies!
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
People get a bit carried away on this forum. It seems every topic post becomes OT really quick with stupid waste of bandwidth posts like now.
People get a bit carried away on this forum. It seems every topic post becomes OT really quick with stupid waste of bandwidth posts like now.
Anyone want to tell me who's the pot and who's the kettle?
well, being an everyday nut at cl.com,no flames from me,
i will say that i believe the cars are just about dead even.
as with any 3 pedal cars, driver will make the diff.
real nice to switch cars, really evens out the field
i don't expect a video, if you are respected here, who needs a video?
next time do a real 1/4, as reaching 125 is way beyond necessary and dangerous
my .02
barry out
i will say that i believe the cars are just about dead even.
as with any 3 pedal cars, driver will make the diff.
real nice to switch cars, really evens out the field
i don't expect a video, if you are respected here, who needs a video?
next time do a real 1/4, as reaching 125 is way beyond necessary and dangerous
my .02
barry out
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Originally posted by bsk181
well, being an everyday nut at cl.com,no flames from me,
i will say that i believe the cars are just about dead even.
as with any 3 pedal cars, driver will make the diff.
real nice to switch cars, really evens out the field
i don't expect a video, if you are respected here, who needs a video?
next time do a real 1/4, as reaching 125 is way beyond necessary and dangerous
my .02
barry out
well, being an everyday nut at cl.com,no flames from me,
i will say that i believe the cars are just about dead even.
as with any 3 pedal cars, driver will make the diff.
real nice to switch cars, really evens out the field
i don't expect a video, if you are respected here, who needs a video?
next time do a real 1/4, as reaching 125 is way beyond necessary and dangerous
my .02
barry out
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
I wouldn't say that. hehehe. I can barely get 275-290 a tank for 18.0 gallons.
I wouldn't say that. hehehe. I can barely get 275-290 a tank for 18.0 gallons.
I'd like to see how a 3.5CL does against a 3.5L Maxima. There is a stroker kit available for the 3.2, in case you didn't know. 300hp/260torque. Considering how close the cars are stock, I'm sure the CL would pull ahead once the engines have a similar displacement, even though the CL weighs more.
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Originally posted by JRock
Wow, yours sucks. I've gotten 330 with 2-3 lines left before Empty (which is the longest I'd wait before I pull into a gas station to fill up).
I'd like to see how a 3.5CL does against a 3.5L Maxima. There is a stroker kit available for the 3.2, in case you didn't know. 300hp/260torque. Considering how close the cars are stock, I'm sure the CL would pull ahead once the engines have a similar displacement, even though the CL weighs more.
Wow, yours sucks. I've gotten 330 with 2-3 lines left before Empty (which is the longest I'd wait before I pull into a gas station to fill up).
I'd like to see how a 3.5CL does against a 3.5L Maxima. There is a stroker kit available for the 3.2, in case you didn't know. 300hp/260torque. Considering how close the cars are stock, I'm sure the CL would pull ahead once the engines have a similar displacement, even though the CL weighs more.
So the more expensive CL-S gets to be modded while the Max stays stock?
Your telling us that a CL-S with the stroker AND ONLY the stroker kit (no other mods at all...none!) gives it 300HP/260tq at the crank? How much does this "stroker" kit cost including labour? Isn't only available from that dealer in Florida? If so not really an easy mod to get??What does a stock 6spd CL-S dyno at? Dynojet SAE corrected?
What does a stroker 6spd CL-S Dyno at with no other mods at all (not even an intake) Dynojet SAE corrected?
I was comparing displacement, not price.
Maxima wins if price is equaled.
CLS wins if displacement is equaled.
*shrug* I don't really care either way - I didn't buy a luxury coupe to race other cars. If that was my goal I would have saved a couple grand and bought a Camaro SS and modded that.
I don't have any real performance mods on my CLS, just some suspension mods because it's too much of a luxury ride from the factory - too high and too soft.
My main point was just to point out that the Maxima is running .3L greater displacement so it's easy to see why it has more torque than the 3.2L J32A2 in the low end.
Simple point of fact.
Oh and also to ask that other CL driver what's wrong that he's getting such crappy mpg.
Btw, the stroker kit runs like $2500, IIRC. The only point in mentioning it was to let you know there is one. Don't put arguments into my posts that aren't there to begin with. Thanks.
Maxima wins if price is equaled.
CLS wins if displacement is equaled.
*shrug* I don't really care either way - I didn't buy a luxury coupe to race other cars. If that was my goal I would have saved a couple grand and bought a Camaro SS and modded that.
I don't have any real performance mods on my CLS, just some suspension mods because it's too much of a luxury ride from the factory - too high and too soft.
My main point was just to point out that the Maxima is running .3L greater displacement so it's easy to see why it has more torque than the 3.2L J32A2 in the low end.
Simple point of fact.
Oh and also to ask that other CL driver what's wrong that he's getting such crappy mpg.
Btw, the stroker kit runs like $2500, IIRC. The only point in mentioning it was to let you know there is one. Don't put arguments into my posts that aren't there to begin with. Thanks.
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Originally posted by JRock
I was comparing displacement, not price.
Maxima wins if price is equaled.
CLS wins if displacement is equaled.
*shrug* I don't really care either way - I didn't buy a luxury coupe to race other cars. If that was my goal I would have saved a couple grand and bought a Camaro SS and modded that.
I don't have any real performance mods on my CLS, just some suspension mods because it's too much of a luxury ride from the factory - too high and too soft.
My main point was just to point out that the Maxima is running .3L greater displacement so it's easy to see why it has more torque than the 3.2L J32A2 in the low end.
Simple point of fact.
Oh and also to ask that other CL driver what's wrong that he's getting such crappy mpg.
Btw, the stroker kit runs like $2500, IIRC. The only point in mentioning it was to let you know there is one. Don't put arguments into my posts that aren't there to begin with. Thanks.
I was comparing displacement, not price.
Maxima wins if price is equaled.
CLS wins if displacement is equaled.
*shrug* I don't really care either way - I didn't buy a luxury coupe to race other cars. If that was my goal I would have saved a couple grand and bought a Camaro SS and modded that.
I don't have any real performance mods on my CLS, just some suspension mods because it's too much of a luxury ride from the factory - too high and too soft.
My main point was just to point out that the Maxima is running .3L greater displacement so it's easy to see why it has more torque than the 3.2L J32A2 in the low end.
Simple point of fact.
Oh and also to ask that other CL driver what's wrong that he's getting such crappy mpg.
Btw, the stroker kit runs like $2500, IIRC. The only point in mentioning it was to let you know there is one. Don't put arguments into my posts that aren't there to begin with. Thanks.
Originally posted by BugNout
Videos are always good especially since it isn't a random encounter like those two. They know each other, what mods etc.. So videos will defenitely gain respect not some one sided story from a newbie. Otherwise I just beat an M5 with my Maxima. Oh wait no one respects me here and I don't have a video to prove it. It really did happen...honest!
Videos are always good especially since it isn't a random encounter like those two. They know each other, what mods etc.. So videos will defenitely gain respect not some one sided story from a newbie. Otherwise I just beat an M5 with my Maxima. Oh wait no one respects me here and I don't have a video to prove it. It really did happen...honest!
Originally posted by BugNout
Videos are always good especially since it isn't a random encounter like those two. They know each other, what mods etc.. So videos will defenitely gain respect not some one sided story from a newbie. Otherwise I just beat an M5 with my Maxima. Oh wait no one respects me here and I don't have a video to prove it. It really did happen...honest!
Videos are always good especially since it isn't a random encounter like those two. They know each other, what mods etc.. So videos will defenitely gain respect not some one sided story from a newbie. Otherwise I just beat an M5 with my Maxima. Oh wait no one respects me here and I don't have a video to prove it. It really did happen...honest!
AuxNuke buy yourself a camcorder so bugnout can respect you
Originally posted by Lumbee799
Don't you need videos of their feet also to make sure they are flooring it? AuxNuke and Jay might have just set this up to make the Max look better. You also need videos of them switching gears just to verify one of them is not granny shifting.
Don't you need videos of their feet also to make sure they are flooring it? AuxNuke and Jay might have just set this up to make the Max look better. You also need videos of them switching gears just to verify one of them is not granny shifting.
There is such an obsession with the TL-S/CL-S on this board, it's unreal. I think the answer is simple: The 2K2/2K3 maxima is a wannabee TL-S, and people on this board want to make it seem that it's really on par with it when it's really not. I'm by no means saying the TL-S/CL-S are the greatest cars on earth, because they most certainly are not, but they are a step above a 2K2 maxima. Performance wise, they may be close, but with respect to class and grace, they are much apart.
Originally posted by ColgateU
There is such an obsession with the TL-S/CL-S on this board, it's unreal. I think the answer is simple: The 2K2/2K3 maxima is a wannabee TL-S, and people on this board want to make it seem that it's really on par with it when it's really not. I'm by no means saying the TL-S/CL-S are the greatest cars on earth, because they most certainly are not, but they are a step above a 2K2 maxima. Performance wise, they may be close, but with respect to class and grace, they are much apart.
There is such an obsession with the TL-S/CL-S on this board, it's unreal. I think the answer is simple: The 2K2/2K3 maxima is a wannabee TL-S, and people on this board want to make it seem that it's really on par with it when it's really not. I'm by no means saying the TL-S/CL-S are the greatest cars on earth, because they most certainly are not, but they are a step above a 2K2 maxima. Performance wise, they may be close, but with respect to class and grace, they are much apart.
this clown has been in so much maxima vs tl/cl debates.. he is a maxima enthusiast 

Originally posted by ColgateU
There is such an obsession with the TL-S/CL-S on this board, it's unreal. I think the answer is simple: The 2K2/2K3 maxima is a wannabee TL-S, and people on this board want to make it seem that it's really on par with it when it's really not. I'm by no means saying the TL-S/CL-S are the greatest cars on earth, because they most certainly are not, but they are a step above a 2K2 maxima. Performance wise, they may be close, but with respect to class and grace, they are much apart.
There is such an obsession with the TL-S/CL-S on this board, it's unreal. I think the answer is simple: The 2K2/2K3 maxima is a wannabee TL-S, and people on this board want to make it seem that it's really on par with it when it's really not. I'm by no means saying the TL-S/CL-S are the greatest cars on earth, because they most certainly are not, but they are a step above a 2K2 maxima. Performance wise, they may be close, but with respect to class and grace, they are much apart.
Originally posted by ColgateU
Performance wise, they may be close, but with respect to class and grace, they are much apart.
Performance wise, they may be close, but with respect to class and grace, they are much apart.
Originally posted by ColgateU
There is such an obsession with the TL-S/CL-S on this board, it's unreal. I think the answer is simple: The 2K2/2K3 maxima is a wannabee TL-S, and people on this board want to make it seem that it's really on par with it when it's really not. I'm by no means saying the TL-S/CL-S are the greatest cars on earth, because they most certainly are not, but they are a step above a 2K2 maxima. Performance wise, they may be close, but with respect to class and grace, they are much apart.
There is such an obsession with the TL-S/CL-S on this board, it's unreal. I think the answer is simple: The 2K2/2K3 maxima is a wannabee TL-S, and people on this board want to make it seem that it's really on par with it when it's really not. I'm by no means saying the TL-S/CL-S are the greatest cars on earth, because they most certainly are not, but they are a step above a 2K2 maxima. Performance wise, they may be close, but with respect to class and grace, they are much apart.

I'm hoping to hit 13's once I get the latest upgrade. Are they up to v3.00 yet? What are other Acura people running with the latest NAV update?

Thanks!
Originally posted by NAVownzjOO
hey im out of da loop. I see your TL-S has NAV. Which NAV DVD version are they up to now? :confused :
I'm hoping to hit 13's once I get the latest upgrade. Are they up to v3.00 yet? What are other Acura people running with the latest NAV update?
Thanks!
hey im out of da loop. I see your TL-S has NAV. Which NAV DVD version are they up to now? :confused :
I'm hoping to hit 13's once I get the latest upgrade. Are they up to v3.00 yet? What are other Acura people running with the latest NAV update?

Thanks!
Originally posted by NuJerseyDrive
I promise that tomorrow I will post a video of my 5spd. Just in case some of you out there doubt that I actually drive a manual.
I promise that tomorrow I will post a video of my 5spd. Just in case some of you out there doubt that I actually drive a manual.
Originally posted by Lumbee799
I still won't believe you. You could have edited the video or said it was your car and its not. I need to see video tape of you purchasing the car, the bank transactions, and you driving home in the car. Then I need to see someone else video taping you video taping you driving your car. We also need video tape of you uploading the video to your computer and then to a server. After all that I might believe you and respect you.
I still won't believe you. You could have edited the video or said it was your car and its not. I need to see video tape of you purchasing the car, the bank transactions, and you driving home in the car. Then I need to see someone else video taping you video taping you driving your car. We also need video tape of you uploading the video to your computer and then to a server. After all that I might believe you and respect you.
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How come no one invites me with this Hot debate!!!
Rule of Thumb:Who really cares!! Who's gonna believe a noob posting up his first race story!? None! THis **** could be a made up story just to feel good about himself!!! He just plant a bomb and you guys lit up the ****!! Now where is friend Kloogy?
Rule of Thumb:Who really cares!! Who's gonna believe a noob posting up his first race story!? None! THis **** could be a made up story just to feel good about himself!!! He just plant a bomb and you guys lit up the ****!! Now where is friend Kloogy?
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Originally posted by EF-9
How come no one invites me with this Hot debate!!!
Rule of Thumb:Who really cares!! Who's gonna believe a noob posting up his first race story!? None! THis **** could be a made up story just to feel good about himself!!! He just plant a bomb and you guys lit up the ****!! Now where is friend Kloogy?
How come no one invites me with this Hot debate!!!
Rule of Thumb:Who really cares!! Who's gonna believe a noob posting up his first race story!? None! THis **** could be a made up story just to feel good about himself!!! He just plant a bomb and you guys lit up the ****!! Now where is friend Kloogy?



