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Old Sep 26, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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Got nothing to fear from 2k3 Accord

I just watched MotorWeek on TV, and they tested out 2k3 Accord 6cyl auto 0-60 at 8.0 flat, and 1/4 mi at 16.3.
Old Sep 26, 2002 | 10:11 PM
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Re: Got nothing to fear from 2k3 Accord

Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
I just watched MotorWeek on TV, and they tested out 2k3 Accord 6cyl auto 0-60 at 8.0 flat, and 1/4 mi at 16.3.
not meaning to take honda's side but those numbers are often wrong!
we got to wait until one us maxima owners runs against one on the road or on the track to really tell!!!!!
Old Sep 26, 2002 | 10:15 PM
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Anyone know of a good accord forum, so we can peek around and see if anyone ran the 1/4 with their 2k3?
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 01:52 AM
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well what exactly is different with the 2k3 Accord? (im being lazy, ill go search) .. isn't it still a 3.0L 200hp, 4-speed auto? <yawn> boring

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i stand corrected.. 3.0L 240hp, 6-speed (in feb 2003). .. ill shut up now
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 05:29 AM
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The 7th gen Accord sedan is the same J30A1 from the 6th gen except with a 10:1 compression (up from 9.3:1), 3-rocker system, larger valves, high flow exhaust, electronic throttle body and high-inertia intake manifold that result in 240hp/212lb-ft (up from 200hp/195lb-ft).

From what I understand, there will be no manual tranny for the sedan V6. The coupe V6 is slated to be the performance model with a 6speed tranny.

Peace.
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 06:16 AM
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you can check at superhonda.com for info regarding this
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 06:33 AM
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Motor Trend got 6.6 from the auto.

http://www.car-stats.com/stats/shows...tsgivenid.aspx
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 08:18 AM
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honda accord's
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by GuZo
Anyone know of a good accord forum, so we can peek around and see if anyone ran the 1/4 with their 2k3?
checkout www.accordv6.com
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by F23A4
The 7th gen Accord sedan is the same J30A1 from the 6th gen except with a 10:1 compression (up from 9.3:1), 3-rocker system, larger valves, high flow exhaust, electronic throttle body and high-inertia intake manifold that result in 240hp/212lb-ft (up from 200hp/195lb-ft)
The new engine code is J30A4.

Also, I'm not too worried about the 03 AV6 automatics...



Intake and Y-pipe hopefully by christimas, too
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 10:29 AM
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The new engine code is J30A4.
Also, I'm not too worried about the 03 AV6 automatics...
Intake and Y-pipe hopefully by christimas, too
wow, good job with those diagrams. Gotta give props to Honda Motor though, they have kept the engine displacement at 3.0 while increasing the horsepower by 40. I dont need to tell you folks that a bigger engine means poorer fuel economy. Nissan just chose a low-cost solution for 2k2/2k3 by throwing in a larger engine. But that doesn't mean my next car will be Honda Accord...
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
The new engine code is J30A4.

Also, I'm not too worried about the 03 AV6 automatics...



Intake and Y-pipe hopefully by christimas, too
What happend to the 6800rpm redline in the AV6 5AT?? You cut it off at 6500rpm.
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by J30A1


What happend to the 6800rpm redline in the AV6 5AT?? You cut it off at 6500rpm.
its already dropping at 6500
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
Nissan just chose a low-cost solution for 2k2/2k3 by throwing in a larger engine. But that doesn't mean my next car will be Honda Accord...
Given that the VQ35DE is used on almost all of Nissan's V6 equipped vehicles i'd say they did take the economical and wise solution (e.g. 1 Engine for multiple vehicles). However, that same 3.5L V6 also produces a lot more horespower and torque than the 3.0L that Honda can muster up.
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Originally posted by soundmike
Given that the VQ35DE is used on almost all of Nissan's V6 equipped vehicles i'd say they did take the economical and wise solution (e.g. 1 Engine for multiple vehicles). However, that same 3.5L V6 also produces a lot more horespower and torque than the 3.0L that Honda can muster up.
thats right, economical solution, but for Nissan in terms of cut the costs of production. I think Honda invested a bit more into refining its own v6 motor. But it is unfair to compate 3.0L and 3.5L engines, we're talking about .5L difference in displacement.
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 02:48 PM
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thats right, economical solution, but for Nissan in terms of cut the costs of production. I think Honda invested a bit more into refining its own v6 motor. But it is unfair to compate 3.0L and 3.5L engines, we're talking about .5L difference in displacement.
True. However, if Nissan decided to refine the 3L further it would be hard for them to gain close to 300hp from it w/o any forced induction. Not to mention it would be slightly hard to get as much torque from it as well to power not only cars but SUV's at the same time.

Thus they bored it out further and made it serve several purposes.

The advantage to this is if there's a mod that comes out for the Z or such, it will most probably be available for others with the same engine as well.
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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we do have to fear

You know how big their aftermarket for mods is going to be?! A lot bigger than ours. Stock for Stock we have nothing to worry about, but which enthusiast keeps their car stock!? besides me of course...

The 4-door version is sooo ugly! Our tail-lights look better IMO. Even the 2 door isnt that nice but its not that bad.
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 04:33 PM
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I can't see a big aftermarket for such an ugly car. I don't think it's gonna be a big seller.
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 04:49 PM
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Like I've said before: Front of an Insight, Back of an Odyssey.
The 2 door coupe doesn't look too bad though, and with the 6speed that will give 02+ Altys and 00-01 Maxes a run for the money.
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I saw an 03 V6 accord sedan today parked near a curb sidewalk with an 80 yr old grandma sitting in the backseat knitting. I have to say the stock rims didn't look that bad, but just the whole design and shape of it....the word "sleek definetly doesn't fit it. Even if people added body kits and ground effects, there's still much left to be desired.
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R


wow, good job with those diagrams. Gotta give props to Honda Motor though, they have kept the engine displacement at 3.0 while increasing the horsepower by 40.
You can give Honda even more props: in their ACR (Accord Coupe Type R), they were able to coax 300hp/231.5lb-ft tq from that same motor. (ref Super Street Oct 2000) 0-60 in 5.7 seconds/1/4 mile 14.1 seconds with a top speed of 165mph all with a 4sp auto tranny.
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 07:44 PM
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why would you give props to Honda for the new Accord engine, they took a totally economy designed V6 and made it into a more enthusiast oriented V6 ... what am i saying ... they made their weak V6 into a better V6 ... they didnt pull 40hp out of their ***, they just got rid of the stuff that was limiting the motor. Raise compression, get all around gains, slightly more aggressive cams possibly, for the edge in HP, and actually running off all 4 valves all the time, instead of above a certain rpm, brought up the redline a bit, etc... and btw does anyone know if teh 2003 accord have the same VTEC setup as the TLS/CLS, or are they still running it only off of the intake side only still?
Old Sep 28, 2002 | 12:38 AM
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I cut off at 6500rpm on the graph just because I was lazy, and because it really isn't going to make much of a difference

I'm pretty sure the J30A4 is still doing the same retarded 1-intake valve only operation below VTEC like before. Note that the Acura engines do *NOT* have cams like this and hence have much better low-end power. Some of the guys at AccordV6.com have swapped out their cams because of this, and it does result in much better low-end power.

Also, all of the Honda J-series SOHC VTEC V6 engines (J30A1/J30A4, J32A2, etc.) vary only intake valve timing and lift. Varying the exhaust timing as well, along with intake, all on a single cam, really isn't possible.
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Originally posted by SteVTEC


Also, all of the Honda J-series SOHC VTEC V6 engines (J30A1/J30A4, J32A2, etc.) vary only intake valve timing and lift. Varying the exhaust timing as well, along with intake, all on a single cam, really isn't possible.
THAT'S the truth of the matter!!
Old Sep 28, 2002 | 03:01 PM
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I know what you are implying but I do not "fear" any car. Why should I?
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