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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 07:58 AM
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Hey Kev when are we gonna see a new dyno with the new set up...? And how much longer till the turbo install?? Good Luck
Hi Pablo... I should be getting the new flex section for the y-pipe in the mail today or tomorrow. Then it's off to fixing and dynoing (Thursday if I can get the y-pipe fixed). SC is coming off Friday night or Saturday, then it's dyno time again within the week.

After that, time to install the new setup. I'll let you know how it goes because you were VERY interested.

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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 08:01 AM
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Hi Pablo... I should be getting the new flex section for the y-pipe in the mail today or tomorrow. Then it's off to fixing and dynoing (Thursday if I can get the y-pipe fixed). SC is coming off Friday night or Saturday, then it's dyno time again within the week.

After that, time to install the new setup. I'll let you know how it goes because you were VERY interested.

Thanks!
Thanks Kev, also once your done with the new set up please email me the complete set up so me and Lance here at Toyomoto can take a look at it and see how much a similar set up with maybe a Haltech would go for...and if its not that bad, maybe he can make multiple kits and we could sell them. (you would get a cut of course) Thanks
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:22 AM
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Thanks Kev, also once your done with the new set up please email me the complete set up so me and Lance here at Toyomoto can take a look at it and see how much a similar set up with maybe a Haltech would go for...and if its not that bad, maybe he can make multiple kits and we could sell them. (you would get a cut of course) Thanks
Sorry, I can't post pics of individual parts. I can, however, post pics of the install process.
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Skyline GT-R R34 with approx. 1000 hp at the flywheel running a 10.2 1/4 mile according to the seller in Scotland

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW...00239052206937
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lets back up here for a sec. Do you understand turbos? One turbo can push 21PSI if it wanted to. All you have to do is tell it to. 14psi is just about 1 bar. That is nothing for most turbos.

The question is the motor. Can a stock motor take 14psi or more? Nope, most cars cannot. Even with the titanium parts inside the 2k2 motor I don't think it can handle that preassure. Now.... the answer is motor work. Build up the pistons, piston sleeves, a bit of head work and you are ready. You are looking at over $2,000 in motor work just to prepare for that mass of air coming in. Now with a V-6, you have two banks to worry about, so the cost may be double that 2k just to build the motor right.

Then you pick up a nice T3/4 Garret Turbo, $2,000 +. Now where are we going to bolt that bad boy to? Hmmm, guess we better custom make that down-pipe and exhaust setup.

My guess is, after a good $6,000 and a couple months without your 2k2, you now have a simple turbo setup. Now that you have 14psi going in, you can run on the roak with some pretty fast cars, but, how do you keep it down on the ground from a stand still???

Once again you go back to the shop.......

This is a nasty cycle, but it is how it goes. I am sure I missed some stuff, but it is not like this is easy, or effective.
Um.... What do u mean by "how do you keep it down on the ground from a stand still"?
and what about those 2k maximas with the supercharger. Did they do extensive mod to their motor? they are putting out 300+hp to the wheels aren't they? or the pressure problem doesn't apply?
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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Here's how you figure out your times. http://www.battleoftheimports.com/cl...battlecalc.htm

That calculator contradicts itself.
In the first half, I put Vehicle weight as 3600 (approx. weight for vehicle and driver) and 222 Flywheel hp and I get 15.5 seconds.
Ok, that sounds ok. However, in the bottom half, I put 3600 for vehicle weight and 15.5 seconds to see how much flywheel hp I would need and it says 248 at the flywheel (191 at the wheels).
So I go back to the top one and put 191 at the wheel hp and it gives me 15.5 (same as the bottom half) and then I put 248 flywheel hp and it says 14.9 seconds.
I think their flywheel hp vs. at the wheel hp is slightly off. They say they use a 17% loss between flywheel and at the wheels hp. However, I don't think they use 17% loss for the bottom half. They seem to be using a 23% loss. The whole calculator is cool but I wouldn't use it for anything remotely specific
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Skyline GT-R R34 with approx. 1000 hp at the flywheel running a 10.2 1/4 mile according to the seller in Scotland

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW...00239052206937
What makes skyline gt-r so special? factory two turbo? or it's 2.5L engine?
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by PoweredbyNissan

Um.... What do u mean by "how do you keep it down on the ground from a stand still"?
and what about those 2k maximas with the supercharger. Did they do extensive mod to their motor? they are putting out 300+hp to the wheels aren't they? or the pressure problem doesn't apply?
Wheel hop and traction. Dude, you need to go to the track and just kinda watch what goes on.

By the way, Y2KEVSE has a SC and EXTENSIVE work done to his car. He can't seem to break 300 fwhp. He's stuck at 290. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Kev).

For you to accomplish 360 fwhp, you are talking about $20,000+ in modifications. Remember, The stock 2K2 is only around 210 fwhp.
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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10's in a Max? Easy. A big 'ol Turbo, Nitrous, drag slicks, replace that aluminum block with a more robust steel one, and chop the body right down to the FRAME; cut that 3300 pounds down to 1000, and say hello to 10's. Of course, nobody will recognize your car as a Maxima anymore, more like a hunk o' steel with an engine. But damn, you'll feel good running those 10's, won't you?
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 10:42 AM
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Wheel hop and traction. Dude, you need to go to the track and just kinda watch what goes on.

By the way, Y2KEVSE has a SC and EXTENSIVE work done to his car. He can't seem to break 300 fwhp. He's stuck at 290. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Kev).

For you to accomplish 360 fwhp, you are talking about $20,000+ in modifications. Remember, The stock 2K2 is only around 210 fwhp.
The car would've broken 300 whp in automagic state (with a good y-pipe flex section), but I have no proof. The number you stated was with a 3.125" SC pulley and an automagic tranny.

Educated guess: Good flex plus 5 speed with 2.87" SC pulley should put the car at about 330-340 whp since 3.125" an a manual puts down about 320-330.
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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and you got it up to about 11.5 lbs of boost right Kev?
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by PoweredbyNissan

What makes skyline gt-r so special? factory two turbo? or it's 2.5L engine?
its handling

stock...its a 280 hp car (prob. 310hp for real, but due to law restriction, they have to write it down as 280). With tuning, I have seen a video of a 9 second Skyline and Blitz Skyline is not too far away from it.
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by PoweredbyNissan

What makes skyline gt-r so special? factory two turbo? or it's 2.5L engine?
a little update

http://www.supercars.net/cars/1999@$Nissan%20Blitz@$Skyline%20GT-R%20R348g.html

Blitz skyline
0-60 : 3second
1/4, NA
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by dblrr900
and you got it up to about 11.5 lbs of boost right Kev?
10.5-11 on dyno... I've seen 11 on the streets/freeway.
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Axel
Skyline GT-R R34 with approx. 1000 hp at the flywheel running a 10.2 1/4 mile according to the seller in Scotland

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW...00239052206937
Something is fishy about that Skyline. If it's a GT-R, why swap in the GT-S grill? That's like putting a GXE badge on a GLE. And also I didn't know Jun made whole engines.
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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Anything is possible........anyways, here's what i think:

SC or Turbo (if there is room for it)
Then, Nawz
Muffler
CAI
ECU
weight reduction
new tires for launching
new engine


you should be up to about 11 or 12 with that stuff
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT

Something is fishy about that Skyline. If it's a GT-R, why swap in the GT-S grill? That's like putting a GXE badge on a GLE. And also I didn't know Jun made whole engines.
Jun doesn't make the motors. They take new motors and they build them up extremely well and strong.

Oh to have a JUN Supra.......
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 05:27 PM
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Wheel hop and traction. Dude, you need to go to the track and just kinda watch what goes on.

By the way, Y2KEVSE has a SC and EXTENSIVE work done to his car. He can't seem to break 300 fwhp. He's stuck at 290. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Kev).

For you to accomplish 360 fwhp, you are talking about $20,000+ in modifications. Remember, The stock 2K2 is only around 210 fwhp.
Nigel has 370fwhp and I doubt he spent $20k. Know what you're talking about before you stick your foot in your mouth.

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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 05:49 PM
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The C5 Corvettes that get into the 10s all have about 700 RWH and same torque. Those guys have tubbed 17x12 rear wheels.
I think the best way to get Maxima into the tens or nines is to put your Maxima title into the glovebox of a moddded Chevy or Ford and enjoy the ride.
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he he he

Actually I bet if you look at ALL the money Nigel, Kev, and others have put into their car, I guarantee it is well over $20,000. You will be supprised at how fast the numbers climb.

I invite anyone to go talk to Jason King and ask him how much he dropped on his power-play. Astonishing.....

I invite any real modder to sit down and write down every dime they put into their car. I couldn't believe that I spent so much money on my old car, in the course of 3 years. wow.
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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Sell the Max and with the money buy an older 91-93 Sentra SE-R and put a big ball bearing turbo(SR20DET), biggest intercooler, blowoff, timers, etc... you can stuff in front end, strip interior, heavy duty clutch, slicks, straight -thru 3" exhaust, cams and pulleys, suspension and you will still have $$$ left over to pay for the track
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You want 300+hp at the wheels for well under 10K get a GS300. I've seen at least 2 turbo kits going all the way to stage IV. The bottome line is the 2K2 Max has a terrible tranny, horrible suspension, and FWD. There are just too many problems to overcome with the FWD system. Not sayin' it's not possible but, you end up spending needless dollars on tranny work, axles, limited slip/positraction. Be prepared to put about 3K aside for tranny work alone(for auto 2K2s).
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Originally posted by woreyah
You want 300+hp at the wheels for well under 10K get a GS300. I've seen at least 2 turbo kits going all the way to stage IV. The bottome line is the 2K2 Max has a terrible tranny, horrible suspension, and FWD. There are just too many problems to overcome with the FWD system. Not sayin' it's not possible but, you end up spending needless dollars on tranny work, axles, limited slip/positraction. Be prepared to put about 3K aside for tranny work alone(for auto 2K2s).
Here's the link: http://www.i-m-racing.com/srtstagiisup2.html
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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you guys are aiming a little too high. You can throw in the biggest turbo, 300 shot nitrous, jet turbines or whatever you desire under the hood. A streetable maxima will never go 10 seconds because it's front wheel drive. You'll sit there and spin all day long. Now low 13's and high 12's are reasonable goals IMO.
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Here's the link: http://www.i-m-racing.com/srtstagiisup2.html
Are there 5 speed GS300s?
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Are there 5 speed GS300s?
Yes there are 5 speed GS300s, 5spd autos You got me on that one. If you want a manual get a IS300.
Old Oct 7, 2002 | 07:49 PM
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Let's stick to the topic here. It's not about getting other cars to 10 seconds or close. It's about getting a Maxima to break it.
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Originally posted by 97maximase5spd
you guys are aiming a little too high. You can throw in the biggest turbo, 300 shot nitrous, jet turbines or whatever you desire under the hood. A streetable maxima will never go 10 seconds because it's front wheel drive. You'll sit there and spin all day long. Now low 13's and high 12's are reasonable goals IMO.
Well said. It's damn hard just to get these cars in the 12's. Maybe if we're lucky we'll see an 11 second street Maxima one day. But a 10 second Maxima is unrealistic unless it's a full racecar with extensive lightening, chassis and engine mods.
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By the way, any of you guys wanting to start moving down that 1/4 mile in the 13's or maybe 12's if your good, talk to Matt (SR20DEN) as listed in his sig he is selling a nice kit for dirt cheap.
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this whole idea isnt too far off base, its just a question of how much money you have to spend. If you limited on money then get a honda or a DSM and you can hit 10's on like 20k, if you want to do that in a Max you are looking to spend double that easy. i am personally building a honda crx for 10's DD, yes thats right DD, but in order to do that you need lots and lots of tuning and very advanced engine management, not a FPR and an A'pexi computer.

hell look at the Turbonetics Celica, they recently broke the 200 mph mark and that was with a Toyota 6 cylinder, but that was also RWD.

if someone has the money to spend to get a Max into 10's all the power to them, but if you trying to do this on a budget then its not possible.
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You can have over 300 whp with only $4200... or use nitrous for way less.
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You can have over 300 whp with only $4200... or use nitrous for way less.
Dude. No friggin way. Without nitrous? How?
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Dude. No friggin way. Without nitrous? How?
Turbo. build a junkyard kit.
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Dude. No friggin way. Without nitrous? How?

Look at who posted that comment.... if anyone knows it would be Kev. "Hi, over 300 at the wheels"
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Turbo. build a junkyard kit.
Yeah, but you've gotta be a scientist/astronaut/genius to know how to that. I can't walk into my local Midas and plunk down $4200 and tell them to build me a turbo. But I guess it COULD be done.
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Look at who posted that comment.... if anyone knows it would be Kev. "Hi, over 300 at the wheels"
288.


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Yeah, but you've gotta be a scientist/astronaut/genius to know how to that. I can't walk into my local Midas and plunk down $4200 and tell them to build me a turbo. But I guess it COULD be done.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=103611 Customize!
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Yeah, but you've gotta be a scientist/astronaut/genius to know how to that. I can't walk into my local Midas and plunk down $4200 and tell them to build me a turbo. But I guess it COULD be done.
more then likely if you walk into a performance shop who knows about these things AND has a dyno you could have the turbo installed and tuned for about $4200.

building a junkyard kit alone will cost you roughly about 3,000 and then the rest for tuning and install.
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Some one should build a junkyard kit and just start selling it and make tons of money of it. i bet most of us would like a turbo in the 2k2.
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Some one should build a junkyard kit and just start selling it and make tons of money of it. i bet most of us would like a turbo in the 2k2.
Not quite 'tons'.

Look around at the 2k and 2k1 cars in this forum...only a few have a SC and even less a working turbo (custom built or otherwise).

Turbos are like most 'wanna haves', when push comes to shove, only a handful of people are in a position to shell out that kind of money on a Max. These are the same people who obviously have enough disposable cash laying around that they often would have gotten a better performing car from the get go.

Face it, this and the handful of other Max forums represent the bulk of the 'performance' Max community and even here would not support a major production of kits.
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Not quite 'tons'.

Look around at the 2k and 2k1 cars in this forum...only a few have a SC and even less a working turbo (custom built or otherwise).

Turbos are like most 'wanna haves', when push comes to shove, only a handful of people are in a position to shell out that kind of money on a Max. These are the same people who obviously have enough disposable cash laying around that they often would have gotten a better performing car from the get go.

Face it, this and the handful of other Max forums represent the bulk of the 'performance' Max community and even here would not support a major production of kits.
Sad but true. I must confess that I am a window shopper when it comes to mods over $1000+ (besides wheels).



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