I currently have 44k on my ride, I do drive her hard from time to time but for the most part she's taken care of. I just wanted to know if it's ever too late to slap on a turbo. Once Kev finishes prototyping Nigels kit I am goin that route as well.

I've been here for a little over 2 years now and have never seen this topic covered....so I didn't bother searching

 

I have seen 4th gen getting boosted at 98k......

 

I don't see any problems. A compression check would tell you if the motor is doing fine..... or not.

 

you should only boost at 40k

 

Thanks guys I actually have funds taken out of every check and go directly into a seperate account. My boost fund

Kev, do you think the kit might be ready by next summer?

 

It will be on the car within 2-3 weeks... I hope. I'm not sure when Nigel will start making 5th gen specific kits though.

 

Any idea what your kit or the one he makes will cost? n I'm going boost within a month and am just wondering if it would be cheaper than the vortech and if I shoud wait.

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=103611

It may be a little more than that. You'd have to ask him.

 

I ran through that thread. Imma droolin. I hope you have great success. I like the constant updates

And for those that are thinking...goin fast cost $$$$. It is NOT cheap.

What I would like Kev to do is monitor "tuning" costs. As this can vary wildly, I would at least like as a refererance. And if he also [hint hint]could keep a log of changes and why? Ok ok...I will throw in a bag of spicey Cheetos...no? How about a 12er of A&W....?

Reason why I say above is I have not known Kev to "short cut" stuff and I want to see what needs to be done/spent for a GOOD complete job.

As I said..I am watchin... he he

 

Hehehehe...

You just want me to post the amount I've spent on tuning? I can give you a good estimate now and say it will probably not cost more than 2 hours on the dyno (2 sessions of an hour each).

This only applies if you have an AFC and/or fuel pressure regulator, otherwise you can't tune at all.

 

Your NOT the only one!!!

By the time my "warranty" DIES, I'll have all my turbine and compressor specs calculated and ordered. Then by using Kev and any others for guniea pigs, I'll be ready.

$2500 for basic Nigel kit+$1400 for GT-series BB turbo+ceramic coating+IC+BOV+BC+AFC+TT+EGT/FP/Boost gauges+3" exhaust+closed loop water cooling system+tuning+etc+etc... = Holy Snikeys!!

Find a new job, yet? I better!

 

So what do you guys estimate will be the ballpark figure that one should save up for the kit, all the other stuff you listed above, installation, and tuning?

I do plan on having a seperate pool of cash just in case something goes wrong (BOOM!)

 

I believe Nigels kit is $3400ish withOUT intercooler and $4200 with intercooler.

I'd say $5K just for the kit(IC included) and install. Then you need to add a battery relocation kit, the gauges($200-500+), and boost controler($400-600) MINIMUM. A high flow exhaust is pretty much a requirement, so another $300-$600. There is probably more, but I can't think that far ahead, so I'll just keep a close eye on Kev.

 

Cool....you and me both

 

my case : Apexi mechanical boost gauge (120)
Apexi EGT (260)
Automemter tranny temp (35)

total : 415

advice : should've gone with autometer for all three. if u have $$$, check out Blitz DC series

 

Stalkers... all of you.

Battery relocation kit is included.

 

if Kev feels like he is under a VERY LARGE microscope? LOL.

As for tuning, yeah whatever you need/do to "tune" the motor so it does not blow up the first time you decide to punch it. I will be putting the necessary money into the whole system to make sure it will last as long as possible with limited problems.

Alex, no. No new job...but I have a couple of people asking questions about me. So I dont think I will be TO bad off. [bangs very hard on wood]. I want to make sure to get at least 5 years here first (ride her til she dies) so I can go get my masters.

And HOLY SNIKEYS is the least of it. But I just dont want shortcuts...shortcuts end up being headaches. It will be a big enough worry to keep the system up and running reliably.

Thanks for puttin up with us Kev!

 

1)Lots of $$$$ or sugar momma named Jane.(PRICELESS!!!!!)
2)5th gen. 5-speed Max or make your own for ~$4K like he did(includes AE LSD, ACT clutch, UR flywheel, STS, AE ****/console!).
3)Nigel 4th gen kit including SPEARCO intercooler($4270)
4)Apexi EGT gauge($275--Sale $255 w/Peak Hold $285)
5)Apexi Boost gauge($269--Sale $255)
6)Apexi AFC($329.95)
7)Walbro HP Fuel Pump($100)
8)Copper spark plugs two steps colder($15)
9)Aquamist water injection($405-410)
10)Blitz SBC i-D($600--Sale $532)
11)J&S Electronics Ultra SafeGuard($472.50+$179.10gauge)
12)Blow-off valve($???)
13)...

Good start, eh?

 

I know where u live

 

That's some nice detective work...I ain't messing with you

 

The kit includes a 12:1 FMU disc, so that is PLENTY of fuel. Getting a "perfect" air/fuel ratio is where the high $$$ comes from. You won't blow up with the 12:1


#9 was $405... or was it $410? The other amounts are somewhat close.


I know where you (someimtimes) live too.

 

So, your still going to use WI even with the IC?

If so, daaayyyyym what boost level are you shooting for?

 

375 whp with stock injectors and internals. More when a motor gets built... and larger injectors.

 

YGM

 

What kind of life are you expecting from the motor with that kind of juice to the wheels? Will you be running more than the max 9psi as Nigel cautions?

Also seems that you are contemplating building a motor to give it even more pasta!

 

YGMT


375 whp will be a bit easier to achieve vs. Nigel's setup because 5th gens have the VI. The car will run the same hp on the streets as it does on the dyno, so if it take only 9 psi then 9 psi it is. I'm not afraid to take it up a level if needed.

Yup, I'll be looking for a used motor once I sell the auto tranny.

 

Honestly, if you go through all that, YOU MIGHT AS WELL GET A STANDALONE ENGINE CONTROLLER. You'll be chopping yourself off at the knees trying to use the OEM ECU with a crude(ie mechanical) FMU.

A SEC is the only way to run IMO once you get high boost(15+psi) and/or internal work done. It just depends on what features you'll lose or if the OEM ECU is truely modular and you won't need it.

 

Nah, too many problems with stanalones (i.e. UncleMax). I have the J&S Safeguard to retard timing... the other major thing is the fuel system which will be upgraded.

 

Do I need to keep my eyes peeled for a good used VQ35 short block?

 

So you are looking at it from the WHP standpoing versus the PSI standpoint. Right? So you will boost as necessary until you reach your "goal"?

I am assuming that the J&S is required for this application on stock internals? As I am poor and will not be able to upgrade internals.

 

What problems(to lazy to search)? Are you getting a Vortech SUPER FMU?

I've played with an Electromotive TEC-II standalone ECU. It's not hard to setup, however it requires dyno tuning to dial it in optimal.

The gains you would get from the SEC would be HUGE with that setup. Don't worry Kev, that's just another "upgrade" for you in the future.

BTW, according to INITIAL calculations you would gain 30whp MINIMUM from a TO4E, IF you had a SEC that could raise the REV limiter to 7000rpms.

 

Hybrid?


Yes, whp vs. psi... but will not boost over a dozen. J&S is not required, but HIGHLY recommended.


http://forums.maxima.org/search.php?...ser&userid=674

I won't worry about an ECU until one is proven to work well with the Max. Raising the limiter will do no good without titanium springs first.

 

That will NEVER happen.....unless you do it.


I thought some VQ30DE 4th geners with the JWT ECU were spinning 7K rpms?

 

HALTECH What a POS!

Electromotive ECUs are nice, but there are probably better. I've heard SOME good things about AEMs' ECU, but never seen one installed.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Y2KevSE
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Hybrid?


As long as your're getting custom pistons, I think a VQ35 crank & rods will drop into a VQ30 block. Extra 8MM of stroke! VQ33DE-T!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DAVEB
[B]VQ33DEK-T

 

This is getting interesting.....

Yeah Kev do it all so we can copy. At least you have the funds to experiment, good for you. I will have the funds to buy the FINISHED product

 

AMEN to that!

 

VQ33DEK-T [/B][/QUOTE]

I stand corrected! As soon as we warranty a VQ35, you know where I'll be!