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Old 10-09-2002, 03:46 PM
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Quick run with a 2k2

I ran into a Burgandy 2k2 on the highway today. I went to pass a car in the left lane and a 2k2 was behind me. I hit it to pass a semi-truck and the 2k2 also proceeded to hit it behind me. I was in 3rd gear at around 70 when I hit it and pulled on the 2k2 pretty good. I couldnt tell how many much though because he was behind me. I was impressed though!
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I ran into a Burgandy 2k2 on the highway today. I went to pass a car in the left lane and a 2k2 was behind me. I hit it to pass a semi-truck and the 2k2 also proceeded to hit it behind me. I was in 3rd gear at around 70 when I hit it and pulled on the 2k2 pretty good. I couldnt tell how many much though because he was behind me. I was impressed though!
maybe he was just switching lanes...........
 
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Re: Quick run with a 2k2

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I ran into a Burgandy 2k2 on the highway today. I went to pass a car in the left lane and a 2k2 was behind me. I hit it to pass a semi-truck and the 2k2 also proceeded to hit it behind me. I was in 3rd gear at around 70 when I hit it and pulled on the 2k2 pretty good. I couldnt tell how many much though because he was behind me. I was impressed though!
it was an autp and he gave up. 2k-2k1 have no chance unless the 2k2 is a auto and stock and the 2k-2k1 have modded their car a good bit. if u have a 5 speed than u might have a better chance at a highway race but if not no chance!

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Re: Re: Quick run with a 2k2

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it was an autp and he gave up. 2k-2k1 have no chance unless the 2k2 is a auto and stock and the 2k-2k1 have modded their car a good bit. if u have a 5 speed than u might have a better chance at a highway race but if not no chance!

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It probably was a auto. I have a 2k 5 speed with intake and Y btw.
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Re: Re: Re: Quick run with a 2k2

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It probably was a auto. I have a 2k 5 speed with intake and Y btw.
well thats a believable story than but it should have been closer. sorry to come off with such a strong opinion, its just that i used to own a 2k1 auto with plenty of mods and my 2k2 would RHOOMP that A$$ !!!!

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Yup, no offense intended, but it's definitely possible that he wasn't really trying to race you. Sometimes I find myself pacing other cars just for the hell of it, not really racing or trying to start one either...
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I believe it. It must have been an auto. Highway run isn't one of the auto strong point. It does better on the street.
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Auto or not, you will lose. Trust me. If they really were running after you, they would have pulled.

I have absolutely no problem pulling on 5th gens w/ all the goodies. The only thing 4th or 5th gens I have not run with are NOS or Boosted. I am actually curious to run with Tony (1max2nv). I would like to see how it turns out.
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I remember when i got flamed..

I took a 2k2 Max AUTO with my 99 MAX AUTO... and had half a car length, although i manually shiffted..

2k2s are SLOW!! LOL

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Originally posted by MiniRX7
I remember when i got flamed..

I took a 2k2 Max AUTO with my 99 MAX AUTO... and had half a car length, although i manually shiffted..

2k2s are SLOW!! LOL

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You must have raced that same guy that the GTP, Mustang and Honduh drivers keep ending up with.
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Hey SR20DEN

I will take you in my moms STOCK 99 auto MAX..

I don't want to unleash the fury with my 2k2 MAX 6speed...

Spray all you want, i will spray my windshield fluids and beat u !!
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Auto or not, you will lose. Trust me. If they really were running after you, they would have pulled.

I have absolutely no problem pulling on 5th gens w/ all the goodies. The only thing 4th or 5th gens I have not run with are NOS or Boosted. I am actually curious to run with Tony (1max2nv). I would like to see how it turns out.
Pretty strong opinion coming from someone who apparently hasn't even run thier 2k2 on the track. I'm very sure you wouldn't be walking my NA 4th gen in any sort of race. Power to weight is a b!tch, ya know.

Most modded 2k2 autos are lucky to break 94mph in the 1/4 mile. A 5 speed 2k with a y-pipe and intake will consistently break 94mph. Actually more like 96mph. Trap speed is the best indicator of true available power. ET is all about traction.


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Yes Dave, we know what you got. Give me 1 or 2 years to mod the car right then lets talk. I mean, you cannot expect someone to take their $25k new car and just strip it and run to the track. Sorry, but I would like to at least have the Loan to value ratio in my favor before tearing it up.

If things go the way I hope, I should see mid - low 13s NA. We will see what happens next summer. It doesnt take me long to get tired of simple bolt ons and get a little extreme.

Also, I would like to think on the highway, NA to NA, I will take you at some point.

EDIT-- I just checked your homepage Dave. I thought you were faster.... guess my comments are over-shot. By spring, I will have no problem taking you, track or highway. Right now, personally, I think you may hang with me, I might not dust you, but I don't forsee you "dusting" my a$$ either. I am confident in my ride and driving skills (cocky statement)
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The guy was racing...He went from 70-90+ in a few seconds. Last time I went to the track 2 2k2 autos were there. They ran better ET's than I did, but my trap was 2 mph higher.
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Re: Quick run with a 2k2

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I ran into a Burgandy 2k2 on the highway today. I went to pass a car in the left lane and a 2k2 was behind me. I hit it to pass a semi-truck and the 2k2 also proceeded to hit it behind me. I was in 3rd gear at around 70 when I hit it and pulled on the 2k2 pretty good. I couldnt tell how many much though because he was behind me. I was impressed though!
Ahh, the 'ol 2K/1 5-speed vs 2K2+ auto debate- I have experience with this! I've done it several times, at a 65-75 roll, the '00-'01 5-speed has such a gearing advantage in 3rd, it will actually pull a '02+ auto. This is the only place it will "beat" an 02+. From a dead stop, it's a different story. I have an '00 5-speed, my boss has an '02 GLE, if I get a perfect launch, it's pretty even, if I have a crappy launch, it's hello chrome taillights! He hasn't taken his car to the track, mine ran 15.10 @ 94.8 (?!) with a crappy 2.43 60-foot.

Food for thought!
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP
The guy was racing...He went from 70-90+ in a few seconds. Last time I went to the track 2 2k2 autos were there. They ran better ET's than I did, but my trap was 2 mph higher.
hey man i hear ya! 70-90 is a very hot spot in a 5 speed or any manual tranny. i believe that the guy was racing for a second but then realized that u were pullin and gave up. the gearing for a 4 speed auto is way to tall to use the power at any possible speed. i remember in my 2k1 auto if u were right at the 70 mark and manually shifted to 2nd it would drop down and the 2nd gear would top at around 80 or so and 3rd gear was poop. no pull until u get past the 100+ mark. sorry i jumped on the gun about sayin u didnt beat him, there are just too many peeps that dont understand cars and talk to much crap, and by reading ur story will think that in any race situation that they can take a 2k2. trap speed is a very large indicator of power and u traping 2+ mph faster is a big difference. 1/4 mile racing is a drivers battle. all the 1/4 mile is about is traction and 60' times thats is if u assume u dont miss a gear if u drive a manual. but the real question is, is who is having more fun driving the car? the guy with the auto? or the guy with the 5 speed? anyone who drives a manual tranny knows the answer to this! i wouldnt want a auto that ran 12s simply bc the fact all i am doing is pointing the car in the direction i need to go and steering, i'm not really driving the car perse(sp?).

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I love how you guys think all of us auto 2K2's are so slow. I have my share of freeway races.. thats the only place I usually dish it out. I smoked a 5 series beemer with 4 people ..... I know one thing, the main ingredient to making an auto Max fast in top end is a Frankencar or Berk intake.. That adds some serious power in the top end.... Just be carefull who you race. I dont care how high the needle goes.. Im not letting off !
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hey man i hear ya! 70-90 is a very hot spot in a 5 speed or any manual tranny. i believe that the guy was racing for a second but then realized that u were pullin and gave up. the gearing for a 4 speed auto is way to tall to use the power at any possible speed. i remember in my 2k1 auto if u were right at the 70 mark and manually shifted to 2nd it would drop down and the 2nd gear would top at around 80 or so and 3rd gear was poop. no pull until u get past the 100+ mark. sorry i jumped on the gun about sayin u didnt beat him, there are just too many peeps that dont understand cars and talk to much crap, and by reading ur story will think that in any race situation that they can take a 2k2. trap speed is a very large indicator of power and u traping 2+ mph faster is a big difference. 1/4 mile racing is a drivers battle. all the 1/4 mile is about is traction and 60' times thats is if u assume u dont miss a gear if u drive a manual. but the real question is, is who is having more fun driving the car? the guy with the auto? or the guy with the 5 speed? anyone who drives a manual tranny knows the answer to this! i wouldnt want a auto that ran 12s simply bc the fact all i am doing is pointing the car in the direction i need to go and steering, i'm not really driving the car perse(sp?).

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Yea I think your right, he was on it for a while and then stopped. I slowed down and he got next to me and was checking out my car. My car is kinda slow from 70-80 and then after that is where it starts pulling real hard. At 70 I am low in the RPM range, but once I hit 5k my VI engages and its a nice pull again. Manual trannies are the only way to go. I cannot see myself buying another auto car in the near future. When I drive my moms 330i, its kinda actually boring because of the auto tranny. Taking turns and braking is fun though, but I dont like to do that kinda driving on the streets.
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I raced a 2k2/2k3 stock auto about 4 times on the highway the other day and beat him everytime. I pulled on him at least a car-car/half (70-95) in third and just totally walked away in 4th (125mph) at least 6 cars total maybe more. We raced 4 times even giving him the initial jump. Also raced a 2k2 v6 Auto Altima with basically the same outcome. Never raced either one from a dead stop but on the highway I pull on them no prob at highway speeds.

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I raced a 2k2/2k3 stock auto about 4 times on the highway the other day and beat him everytime. I pulled on him at least a car-car/half (70-95) in third and just totally walked away in 4th (125mph) at least 6 cars total maybe more. We raced 4 times even giving him the initial jump. Also raced a 2k2 v6 Auto Altima with basically the same outcome. Never raced either one from a dead stop but on the highway I pull on them no prob at highway speeds.

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Wanna meet at the track sometime??? Thats were I do my racing If you can pull 1 car on me I will give me my keys
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i hate those 2k2's.

actually.......I wish I had one
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I like my 2k2, but sometimes it really pi$$es me off how it is tempermental. I have never had a car that just doesn't perform the same from one minute to the next. And please don't get me started on the paint and this timing chain noise....
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And please don't get me started on the paint and this timing chain noise....
Yeah, I couldn't get my car to make the timing chain noise when i went to the dealership. So i left it there for the day to get an oil change. Guess what ? Unable to duplicate at this time ! DAMNIT !
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Wanna meet at the track sometime??? Thats were I do my racing If you can pull 1 car on me I will give me my keys
Out on the highway I would destroy you. I assume your Auto since your trap speeds are low. I guarantee a 2k1 5spd Max with my mods vs your current 4spd auto with the mods in question you would get pulled on big time up to 125. Once I hit 4th gear it is totally bye bye for you. It would just get messy after that. Sorry I live in Canada so going to the track against you isn't possible.
 
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Out on the highway I would destroy you. I assume your Auto since your trap speeds are low. I guarantee a 2k1 5spd Max with my mods vs you current auto with mods you would get pulled on big time up to 125. It would just get messy after that. Sorry I live in Canada so going to the track against you isn't possible.

I would kick your A$$ if I didn't live in Canada

Squeeked out of that one..... You are real lucky BLU, take a big sigh.
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I would kick your A$$ if I didn't live in Canada

Squeeked out of that one..... You are real lucky BLU, take a big sigh.
Yup!

Damn I love Canada

Anyways a 2k2 4spd auto strong point is off the line not highway speeds.
 
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Out on the highway I would destroy you. I assume your Auto since your trap speeds are low. I guarantee a 2k1 5spd Max with my mods vs your current 4spd auto with the mods in question you would get pulled on big time up to 125. Once I hit 4th gear it is totally bye bye for you. It would just get messy after that. Sorry I live in Canada so going to the track against you isn't possible.
what did you trap stock???
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Originally posted by blubyu2k2


what did you trap stock???
He hasn't posted any timeslips.

Hmm.. but he seems so sure of himself.
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what did you trap stock???
Never went to the track stock.
2k1 5spd with a good driver trap about 94mph stock.
 
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Never went to the track stock.
2k1 5spd with a good driver trap about 94mph stock.
well i trapped 93 in 90 degrees with the best driver and coldest weather you might get a few 94's stock
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He hasn't posted any timeslips.

Hmm.. but he seems so sure of himself.
Yes I am. Have you raced a 2k1 5spd NA with all bolt ons on the highway while you were NA?

Read through the thread. The Highway speeds of a 2k1 5spd with all bolts vs a 2k2 auto stock or even with udp/intake. The 5spd will win no prob especially in 4th gear to 125mph.
 
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Yes I am. Have you raced a 2k1 5spd NA with all bolt ons on the highway while you were NA?

Read through the thread. The Highway speeds of a 2k1 5spd with all bolts vs a 2k2 auto stock or even with udp/intake. The 5spd will win no prob especially in 4th gear.
I would gladly race a 2k1 5 speed NA.
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Yes I am. Have you raced a 2k1 5spd NA with all bolt ons on the highway while you were NA?

Read through the thread. The Highway speeds of a 2k1 5spd with all bolts vs a 2k2 auto stock or even with udp/intake. The 5spd will win no prob especially in 4th gear.
an auto stock vs a 5spd with every bolt on hmmmm whats your highest trap fast guy?? Mine is a 95.89 well if I do like everyone else a 96 and yes it was over 80 degrees.
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I would gladly race a 2k1 5 speed NA.
Well find one in your area with my mods. Don't use the rice juice. Keep your seats in your car etc.. and race from 70-125 and you will get pulled on if the 5spd driver knows how to make one shift. Try it you might like it?
 
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Originally posted by BugNout
I raced a 2k2/2k3 stock auto about 4 times on the highway the other day and beat him everytime. I pulled on him at least a car-car/half (70-95) in third and just totally walked away in 4th (125mph) at least 6 cars total maybe more. We raced 4 times even giving him the initial jump. Also raced a 2k2 v6 Auto Altima with basically the same outcome. Never raced either one from a dead stop but on the highway I pull on them no prob at highway speeds.

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hybid intake
y-pipe
rt cat
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stock muffler
UDP
heavy 18's
heavy dual 12" box in trunk
etc...
You got any videos of this? Cuz if you don't then I wont respect this post
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an auto stock vs a 5spd with every bolt on hmmmm whats your highest trap fast guy?? Mine is a 95.89 well if I do like everyone else a 96 and yes it was over 80 degrees.
Madmax2k 5spd in Florida
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14.75@94.85 (2.30)

Also gearing comes into play after 96mph as well. The 4th gear on a 2k1 Max is very strong to 125mph. The trap speeds are a good start but trust me you will get pulled on in 4th gear easily. Find someone in your area with the same mods as mine and run him from 70-125.
 
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Originally posted by BugNout


Madmax2k 5spd
Modded (less mods than mine)
14.38@96.62 (2.13)
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14.75@94.85 (2.30)

Also gearing comes into play after 96mph as well. The 4th gear on a 2k1 Max is very strong to 125mph. The trap speeds are a good start but trust me you will get pulled on in 4th gear easily. Find some in your area with the same mods as mine and run him from 70-125.
wow look don in texas 14.2 4th gen auto n/a I can use others times too. Matt pulled on matt calder very hard while he was spraying a 50 shot. It was dead even for about 2 secs and then we just pulled away very fast. Is that good enough example. Ask them for yourself.
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Originally posted by blubyu2k2


an auto stock vs a 5spd with every bolt on hmmmm whats your highest trap fast guy?? Mine is a 95.89 well if I do like everyone else a 96 and yes it was over 80 degrees.
stock autos do NOT trap 95-96mph....maybe with a nice 30mph tailwind...but not normally. Normally they are in the 93-94mph range.

Thing is...you autos trap almost 80mph in the 1/8 while 4th and 5th gen 5-speeds are trapping 75-76mph in the 1/8. That means that the 5-speed are making up 5-6mph on the high end...theres no way a stock 2k2 auto is going to hang with a bolt-on 4th gen or 5th gen 5-speed.

BTW- I trapped 97+ at the track last weekend...there was a 2k2 auto with intake there trapping 94-95 and 2 6-speeds there one stock trapping 95 and the other with intake and exhaust was trapping 96-97 like me.MAX2000JPs car is VERY close to mine in straight line performance...so hell yea I believe he walked a 2k2 no problem.
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wow look don in texas 14.2 4th gen auto n/a I can use others times too. Matt pulled on matt calder very hard while he was spraying a 50 shot. It was dead even for about 2 secs and then we just pulled away very fast.
Don isn't a 2k2 sorry.
As I said race a 2k1 5spd with all bolt ons from 70-125mph and you will get pulled on. Simple just do it.
 
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stock autos do NOT trap 95-96mph....maybe with a nice 30mph tailwind...but not normally. Normally they are in the 93-94mph range.

Thing is...you autos trap almost 80mph in the 1/8 while 4th and 5th gen 5-speeds are trapping 75-76mph in the 1/8. That means that the 5-speed are making up 5-6mph on the high end...theres no way a stock 2k2 auto is going to hang with a bolt-on 4th gen or 5th gen 5-speed.

BTW- I trapped 97+ at the track last weekend...there was a 2k2 auto with intake there trapping 94-95 and 2 6-speeds there one stock trapping 95 and the other with intake and exhaust was trapping 96-97 like me.MAX2000JPs car is VERY close to mine in straight line performance...so hell yea I believe he walked a 2k2 no problem.
I am not knocking any of you guys and i never said i trapped 96 stock.
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