is tokico blue the only struts that will fit on 2002 w/o any modification? and as for kyb agx i know that rear ones fit the 2002 but the front ones needs to be modified little.... and wanted to know what needs to be modified to make it fit on 2k2 model?

thanks

 

I think the KYB GR2 is also a direct replacement for the 5th gen Max's.

 

i c... how is that compare to tokico blue?

any idea when the KYB AGX is going to come out with 5th gen struts?

 

Tokico Blue are the only direct replacement for the 5th gens. All others have to be modified.

 

GR-2's are direct replacements. AGX's are supposedly coming out next year.

As far as comparing the Toks/GR2/AGX's, here's an excellent post from TellschMax02:

Tokico and KYB - Great Info!! (Long)
I have been doing some research on struts for 5th gen Maxima – more specifically Tokico Performance (Blues) and KYB GR2/AGX. I have a 2k2 with MaxSpeed springs which lowered the car about 1.25” in the front and .75” in the rear.

I am using the Tokico’s in the front (very happy with them) and tried using the 4th Gen AGX in the rear and I am not happy with the fit. The spring does not sit right on the perch and causes the metal end of the spring to grind on the side of the perch when going over larger bumps - even with the stock sleeve on the bottom of the spring. Also, the dust boot is almost touching, if not touching, the one side of the spring. Just overall not a great fit. The ride is awesome, but the fit is just not for me.

So while researching which rears to get, I have received some excellent information. All information was received from contacts at the respective companies.

Tokico Performance:
- Typically valved at 15-20% stiffer than stock struts
- Can handle lowering springs
- May get some bounce on higher spring rate (not exactly sure how high) springs

KYB:
- GR2 are typically valved at 15-20% stiffer than stock struts
- Can handle lowering springs
- May get some bounce on higher spring rate (not exactly sure how high) springs
- Only springs KYB recommend are Eibach ProKit (for either GR2 or AGX)
- Front AGX settings:
- 1 = valved to factory setting
- 2 = valved the same as GR2 (15-20% higher than 1)
- 3 = valved 50% higher than 2
- 4 = valved 30% higher than 3
- Rear AGX settings:
- 1 = valved a little softer than factory (5%)
- 2 = valved to factory setting
- 3 = valved between 2 and 4
- 4 = valved the same as GR2 (15-20% higher than 2)
- 5 = valved between 4 and 6
- 6 = valved 50% higher than 4
- 7 = valved between 6 and 8
- 8 = valved 30% higher than 6

Basically, the Tokico Performance and the KYB GR2’s have very similar performance characteristics. I guess it comes down to which manufacturer you like better. They both have lifetime warrantees and appear to offer the same level of performance.

The AGX is obviously a more flexible shock, but may be over kill for some applications. As noted here on the org, the 5th gen AGXs are scheduled to be in the 2003 KYB catalog. The Tokico Illuminas (adjustable like AGX) are not scheduled for release – according to the person at Tokico I talked to. Being that the 4th gen Illuminas just got released not to long ago, it may also take some time.

Hope this helps,
Brian

 

wow thanks.... weird when i did search i didn't find that topic for some reason...

 

Don't worry about it, took me several tries using different keywords to find it myself.

 

Don't you have to modify the AGX's? When looking at different sites they all said modified to fit 2k2 Maxima's.

 

I just bought and installed the Tokico Blues and H&R's. The ride is fantastic. Stiff, but not too stiff. All floating has been eliminated and my GLE now stands upright when cornering.

 

The 4th gen AGX yes, however 5th gen AGX's are coming out next year.

 

I'm not trying to argue, rather learn. Isn't direct replacement mean no modifying? The Tokico's are currently made for the 5th gens, but the current AGX's/GR2's aren't. Is that correct?

 

Who's arguing?

You're partially correct, the AGX are currently only available for the 4th gens. However Cattman has modified AGX's for the 5th gen.

The direct replacement AGX from KYB is coming out next year.

KYB GR-2's are also available as direct replacements for the 5th gens.

 

Ah, GR2's and AGX's are different. Gotcha.