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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 10:19 PM
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Nav system,

Hi,

Im looking to put in the Nav system for the 2002 max
The car didnt come with it, but iw ant to add it,
has asnyone done this?

Anyone know the costs?

thanx
Old Oct 21, 2002 | 10:20 PM
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aftermarket or factory?
Old Oct 21, 2002 | 10:22 PM
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sorry, factory
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 10:55 PM
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factory is not really an option. it's far too cost probitive and requires ALOT more than just another head unit.

You'd be better served with a Kenwood or Pioneer DVD based Nav.. in many ways, except the theft aspect.
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 03:13 AM
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factory is not really an option. it's far too cost probitive and requires ALOT more than just another head unit.

You'd be better served with a Kenwood or Pioneer DVD based Nav.. in many ways, except the theft aspect.
think about it, the dealership wants $2,000 to add to the sticker for you to get navigation, when you can go get a Kenwood DVD player for about 1500-2000 and for another 2000 you get the nav. yes thats a lot of money but in the end you will be glad you didnt have the factory one. you will have a nice Kenwood flip up screen, touch screen, DVD player, TV, and navigation
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 05:57 AM
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I have the factory NAVI in my car. I would not suggest purchasing the factory system. My car was a leftover, and I essentially got the NAVI for free. After using it for a few months, I can definitely say that you'd be better off with an aftermarket unit.
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ok, thanx for the help guys,
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 10:21 AM
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I have the factory NAVI in my car. I would not suggest purchasing the factory system. My car was a leftover, and I essentially got the NAVI for free. After using it for a few months, I can definitely say that you'd be better off with an aftermarket unit.
Why do you say that.. I have it and love it...
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 10:25 AM
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Why do you say that.. I have it and love it...
I love it too.
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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Nissan Navi is very good

I also like the Navi with the Nissan. I wish it was DVD based but the birdseye view is unique and better than the 2D look. Very Accurate!

thumbs up for the Nissan Navi here.

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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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Alright, I guess I better clarify my remarks! I think the system is good. In fact, I think it's much better than the system used by Mercedes. However, due to the simple fact that the system runs on CD, rather than DVD, I give it a big thumbs down. I agree that the Birdseye view is unique, but it wouldn't make me choose one system over another. Furthermore, it's quite frustrating that most of the options are disabled while the car is in motion. I understand this is done for safety reasons, but there should be an override so that a passenger could operate the system. Overall, I think it would be wiser to spend less $$ on a an aftermarket system that would also allow for things like DVD/VHS movies. Just my $.02 - take it or leave it!!
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by sagaynor
Alright, I guess I better clarify my remarks! I think the system is good. In fact, I think it's much better than the system used by Mercedes. However, due to the simple fact that the system runs on CD, rather than DVD, I give it a big thumbs down. I agree that the Birdseye view is unique, but it wouldn't make me choose one system over another. Furthermore, it's quite frustrating that most of the options are disabled while the car is in motion. I understand this is done for safety reasons, but there should be an override so that a passenger could operate the system. Overall, I think it would be wiser to spend less $$ on a an aftermarket system that would also allow for things like DVD/VHS movies. Just my $.02 - take it or leave it!!
No thanks, I'll leave it. I will find a way to watch DVD's on mine at some point... Its factory, whats not to like about it... It's what makes the car even more enjoyable than it already is.. Everyone always comments about it when they get in my car. There is no way to disable that safety of not using while moving.. You can thank all toses sue happy idiots for that... I mean it really doesent take a genious to not be staring at that instead of traffic... Of course this is only IMO....

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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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You're totally correct about the DVD advantage. I have MCA 7 which becomes useless when you cross from NJ to PA. All in all, it's still better than Mercedes - my dad has the Mercedes system which decided to split the state of NJ right down the middle. Very frustrating, not to mention a smaller screen !!!
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by tomcat


I guess because I am in MCA 2 ...which is large I don't think much about this. From what I have seen you do not gain any detail with a DVD based system but you get the whole country on one disk.

[MCA Areas for those who are not sure of the breakdown]
http://www.zenrin.com/ezBasket/pr_nissanmca.asp

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The reason I wish it was DVD based is that the conversion to watch movies would be a lot easier. As it is now, I know of no one that has done it and only one shop in NY that say they can make it accept inputs from a DVD / PS2/ etc.

As far as the multiple disk thing. Yea, I use maybe 3 disks (but very seldom) and that's it for now.

If you can put in a new Stereo / DVD player / Navi system INSTEAD of the Bose / Navi thing (for under $2000) and get the other parts of the package, more power to you.. I don't see that as an available option though.

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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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The Nissan Nav is to aftermarket nav, what the Nissan Bose is to aftermarket stereo. Its good, but not going to rival the features/performance of aftermarket.
If you have the chance to add it at the time of purchase, by all means, its not a bad deal... you got Nav and no worries of theft. Downside is no expansion (yet) and no way to make it to what you want, like searching destinations while moving.

Past that, the Pioneer and Kenwood (and to a lesser degree alpine) are going to blow it away in updated data and POI's. Most have a version of Birds eye now.

You can actually get into the Pioneer Nav with a 6000 series HU for alittle over $2000. Plus you get DVD movies and anything else you can dream of.
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Very nicely put, Tim!
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by TimW
The Nissan Nav is to aftermarket nav, what the Nissan Bose is to aftermarket stereo. Its good, but not going to rival the features/performance of aftermarket.
If you have the chance to add it at the time of purchase, by all means, its not a bad deal... you got Nav and no worries of theft. Downside is no expansion (yet) and no way to make it to what you want, like searching destinations while moving.

Past that, the Pioneer and Kenwood (and to a lesser degree alpine) are going to blow it away in updated data and POI's. Most have a version of Birds eye now.

You can actually get into the Pioneer Nav with a 6000 series HU for alittle over $2000. Plus you get DVD movies and anything else you can dream of.
Now if Nissan would allow that for a trade when you buy!

I'd been all over it. (I hate Bose)

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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by TimW
The Nissan Nav is to aftermarket nav, what the Nissan Bose is to aftermarket stereo. Its good, but not going to rival the features/performance of aftermarket.
If you have the chance to add it at the time of purchase, by all means, its not a bad deal... you got Nav and no worries of theft. Downside is no expansion (yet) and no way to make it to what you want, like searching destinations while moving.

Past that, the Pioneer and Kenwood (and to a lesser degree alpine) are going to blow it away in updated data and POI's. Most have a version of Birds eye now.

You can actually get into the Pioneer Nav with a 6000 series HU for alittle over $2000. Plus you get DVD movies and anything else you can dream of.
I think that is an a inaccurate comment. The Nissan nav looks like it BELONGS in the car. I know for a fact from 2 reputable shops that a DVD tap in can be done to the stock screen. I see that a lot of you that DON'T have it open your hole to criticize it.... You should really have a first hand experience with it. I will be either adding the DVD option to it, or I will buy a Kenwood flip up screen - DVD player, and tuner... I suggest it is the greatest otpion on my car ! It's not just a map with an arrow... It's on screen climate control, Single touch screen CD player, and has restaurant guides.. and a lot of trip information for you. Helps find ATM's Gas stations, and even a Starbucks if you need it..
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I think that is an a inaccurate comment. The Nissan nav looks like it BELONGS in the car. I know for a fact from 2 reputable shops that a DVD tap in can be done to the stock screen. I see that a lot of you that DON'T have it open your hole to criticize it.... You should really have a first hand experience with it. I will be either adding the DVD option to it, or I will buy a Kenwood flip up screen - DVD player, and tuner... I suggest it is the greatest otpion on my car ! It's not just a map with an arrow... It's on screen climate control, Single touch screen CD player, and has restaurant guides.. and a lot of trip information for you. Helps find ATM's Gas stations, and even a Starbucks if you need it..
Kloog,
Can you PM me with what have you found out about adding jacks (and the decoder,etc.) for external devices. I stopped looking after I got a $1K tag from a shop in NY to do it (and they hadn't tried at that point).
Oh, and I like the new sig.
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 07:01 AM
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Re: Nav system,

Originally posted by killer2002SE
Hi,

Im looking to put in the Nav system for the 2002 max
The car didnt come with it, but iw ant to add it,
has asnyone done this?

Anyone know the costs?

thanx
I've been wanting to know for a while if you can buy the navi factory without the navi. I just want the dash kit with the screen so I can use it as a monitor. It's got to be cheaper than getting an indash flip out unit. Does anyone one have any idea how much just the dash and monitor costs?
Old Oct 24, 2002 | 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by kloogy


I think that is an a inaccurate comment. The Nissan nav looks like it BELONGS in the car. I know for a fact from 2 reputable shops that a DVD tap in can be done to the stock screen. I see that a lot of you that DON'T have it open your hole to criticize it.... You should really have a first hand experience with it. I will be either adding the DVD option to it, or I will buy a Kenwood flip up screen - DVD player, and tuner... I suggest it is the greatest otpion on my car ! It's not just a map with an arrow... It's on screen climate control, Single touch screen CD player, and has restaurant guides.. and a lot of trip information for you. Helps find ATM's Gas stations, and even a Starbucks if you need it..
Is this where you tell me I don't like it because I can't afford it? Please... I didnt say it wasnt a good system. Alittle sensitive? I stand by the bose vs. aftermarket statement. I dont hate my Bose, so I dont think thats a negative statement.

I've test driven both the infiniti and nissan cars with NAV and done
ALOT of research into purchasing aftermarket nav. I have a pretty good idea of what it's capable of.

As far as the integration, good point. Thats a very attractive feature, but arent you totally chained to that system now? I agree, its looks fantastic in the car, and will look better than most aftermarket systems as far as integration goes.

I guess you missed the part where I said it was a good value and to get it if you could :/

The original direction of the post was NOT do I get it at purchase time, it was do I go thru the hassle and cost of trying to add it after the fact... not such a sweet deal in the scenario..
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